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1205:, and the pictures of dogs I've seen on the internet with that anomaly are not all hounds. Google dogs with a split nose. The context of this article as currently written misses the mark. The sources I cited above are not exactly RS, although the authors being veterinarians give it weight, but not necessarily as it relates to a breed of dog. I won't deny that it gave me pause at first because of the BBC article and the 2 vets but none of the other sources I found are RS that unequivocally establish the dog as a breed. The double-nose is an anomaly found in 3 different breed types as noted above, but I've since seen pictures of a German Shepherd puppy with a split nose. Should we have standalone articles about every anomaly that crops-up in various breeds of domestic and wild animals? I don't think so. Is it a hoax? Not the double nose part which is real but we need RS to verify everything else, including whether or not the double-nose is an inherited breed characteristic (genetic) and not just an anomaly, the latter of which is probably why the double-nosed dog is so rare. Is there a recognized breed called the Andean tiger hound? Not that I could find. Tigers are found in India, Nepal, Indonesia, Russia, and China. Bolivia is in South America where this dog was spotted. It sounds like a hoax that went viral because when you look at the videos of the dogs with the split noses, they look like other recognizable breeds or crossbreeds/hybrids/muts. I know people today who would jump at the chance to go 814:. Non-trivial coverage in multiple sources is required. We have zero non-trivial coverage. By your rationale, every weird thing mentioned by some "adventurer" a hundred years ago that was also later trivially regurgitated in a "Ripley's Believe it or Not" blurb, and had passing mention in a news story, auto-qualifies for an encyclopedia article even though we can't write anything certain or meaningful about it other than someone said they saw it, and even though it has no lasting significance of any kind. It's not really distinct from the reasoning used to try to keep garage band articles because they played a show at a state music festival and got mentioned in a local newspaper and on a local TV show. No one has made an argument to delete based on whether sources are scientific, nor on whether the dog exists or not (WP has articles on many non-existent things – for which there are multiple instances of in-depth coverage in independent reliable sources). Rather, the majority of claims in the article are not sourced, and when pared down to nothing but the sourceable ones, there is nothing encyclopedic left, and nothing that indicates notability: only that the dog was first stated to have been seen by someone specific back when, and has been sighted later, and some people have produced what they claim are pictures. That's not encyclopedia material, it's trivia. 1669:- we have not established it as a breed - there are no verifiable sources that even come close to it. What we have are circular references, multiple media mentions of Percy Fawcett's sighting, some anecdotal reports on dog message boards, wishful thinking by a few owners in possession of fewer than 200 dogs they use to hunt, passing mention in a few books wherein most refer to the Fawcett sighting, and sensationalism over the mutation, which is typically caused by a cleft palate so it can be a fatal defect, depending on the individual dog. That may explain why there are so few. None of the aforementioned qualifies the fictitious or anecdotal persona of the dog as notable per GNG. There is more published about the associated defect, a cleft palate, in RS than about the sighting, and when it is mentioned in RS, it's to debunk it. 1711:
breeds - and it's only rare because few dogs survive the cleft palate. It doesn't make any sense for serious breeders who are trying to breed top quality dogs while maintaining a breed standard to purposely breed defects into their bloodlines. The surgery to correct the problem is very expensive - not all dogs survive it - and the few dogs that do survive from birth are indeed rare but that doesn't make it a breed. The misinformation about these bifid pointers is rampant on the internet, and it's born primarily of myth and misinformation. Consider the sources and notice the keywords in the few articles by authors who took the bait hook, line and sinker. Key terms:
1334:, I recommend a closer examination of the sources regarding reliability. I read the Bulgarian journal article earlier but dismissed it as not a RS when I saw WP cited as a source. That’s what happens when anecdotal evidence gets published and spread over the internet - new dog breeds are born. We’ve established the split nose anomaly or genetic mutation/defect, and discovered that a select group of dog owners/breeders in Turkey have been breeding dogs for that characteristic (the split nose), which appears to have cropped up at one time or another in the 252:. The only marginally sourced information in this is that that some dogs with split noses have allegedly been found in various places in South America, (first claimed sighting in 1913, by "a British adventurer") and there are photos that purport to show them (though these would be easy to create with GIMP or Photoshop – I could do it myself, and I'm not very good). The article's own text says it all: "No kennel club recognizes the Double-nosed Andean Tiger Hound, nor Andean Tiger Hounds in general, as a specific breed." So, "there's no 1347:- they cite thebreedsofdogs.com (2011) and en.WP (2011) as references for the Andean tiger hound and a few other breed types that have the split nose characteristic. I also read a few other articles with circular refs to WP for the Andean tiger hound. Nothing I’ve seen so far has convinced me to change my iVote. I’m of the mind that mention of the split nose anomaly could be mentioned in the main breed type but not as stand alone articles. I just realized we have 287:
breeds and varieties/types, their history, their breed stability and recognition status, their features, etc. No such thing as an "Andean tiger hound" (much less a double-nosed one) appears in these references. Nor has any organisation surfaced (in English, Spanish, or Brazilian Portuguese) claiming to have established such a breed, nor any conservation or governmental group claiming the existence of such dogs as a
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article, no. Is there enough notability to include it, yes. If there are multiple authoritative sources saying they have doubts about the dog, then by all means include it. Nothing is stopping you from adding that to the article. I don't particularly care what happens to this article and whether it gets 50 keep or remove votes. I just happened upon this and I gave my opinion on it's inclusion at wikipedia.
1596:. Blashford Snell is talking about the same animal that the Daily mail featured, which is a mutation with zero credible evidence of descent from this species which, in turn, has zero credible evidence to substantiate its existence. This boils down to a single story of an unusual mutation referenced to a minor legend. Of course it's bollocks, but it's not notable bollocks. 790:. I don't know whether or not this dog actually exists. That isn't the question. Nor is whether or not the sources are "scientific". The actual question for AfD is whether the reports of the dog have risen to the level of notability. When a report first made in 1913 is still being discussed in books published a century later, I would say that it had so risen. 291:. The .es and .pt Wikipedias have no article on this, and the only other ones (.fi, .ja) appear to be based on the .en one. I don't bring any alleged breed article to AfD unless I'm damned certain it's not encyclopedic material (established, confirmed breeds may be inherently notable, since they'll appear in non-trivial detail in numerous high-quality sources). 1146:
instead. It is redundant, at best. When I addressed the point I thought was being made at the outset, the substance of my post, you have decided to turn the tables on my incivility in flagging incivility instead, therefore "I am wounded, I am killed by death …" you win mate. Now about those points I raised, would you care to discuss that, are they understood?
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or whatever criteria is used, does not equal breed, because the 'undesirable' characteristics that occur in some breeds would invalidate their status. Please be polite in responses, I prefer that discussion not be personalised; I frequently remind myself (and others) the discussion is about content, not users.
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Well, this is exhausting, I wish I'd made up my mind in the first forty five seconds. I'm now thinking delete and recreate a redirect when the N of the condition is established in the target: while not being the business of this discussion, users able to establish its scope and make a decent start of
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So the article can say that Colonel Percy Fawcett sent to map the Brazil-Bolivia border for the Royal Geographical Society in 1906, claimed to have seen the animal. No evidence has been found to support the existence the breed, although various sightings have been reported. Your comments on breed are
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Any single one is too ugly for its own article, but I think the user above cracked that nut, they all get one article (or section, I don't really know about dogs, collectively, only dingos, found this delightful conversation linked at TOL). I've seen one, a rescue dog, it wasn't introduced as a breed
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PS: Worse yet, what little info we have on the purported photos says they're all from the same family of dogs. We literally do not even have any reliable evidence that this is population of dogs, rather than one mutation that was passed down to two offspring, and which happens to be in the same large
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That could work in theory (though "Bifid dog" doesn't make sense; that would mean a dog split in two). However, we can't just go create articles on every medical condition in every species. They have to be independently notable as subtopics, or account for so much material at a main article that a
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There are two articles, one from a journal and one from an international conference. You cannot dismiss the journal article, but you may dismiss those side issues where it cites Knowledge (XXG), which are non-impacting. As for "impact factor" of the journal, spare me. That these dogs exist is beyond
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That is your opinion. I don't see either one being a blog. Even if something has only one initial source, if every newspaper picks it up and runs with there would be overwhelming notability. We have veterinarians saying it is a variety of dog. Sorry that I take their word over yours. Is this a great
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You know when you have problems with multiple editors, editors who do not actually care about this article but instead only came here to assess it as part of AfD, the problem may not actually lie with the editors. You said this source exists and is relevant to this article (specifically, you believe
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as well. It is typically associated with cleft palates. Anecdotal evidence says some of the dogs don't have cleft palates, but there is not one RS that verifies any of the breed information as anything but anecdotal. Google "bifid nose in spaniels" and look at the images. It happens in multiple
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Thank you, I get your point but, ironically, this article actually is a product of both Ripley’s Believe It and Not and Breverton’s Phantasmagoria per the cited sources and the journal you mentioned is a circular reference to this article. 😅 Oh, well....I think we’ve got it worked out for the most
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dog, do you mean the one or several individual dogs someone said expressed this characteristic, or the description of a breed that the article explains is 1. not accepted and 2. struggles to assert notability, if that exists. The key point is that an anomaly, inconsistently expressed genetic quirk
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What you're saying is: you actually have a source about this animal that discusses it in sufficient detail that you can tell us, based on its disclosure, that it doesn't actually have two noses. I'm curious what this source is, because it would seem to be very useful for weighing the notability of
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So, you are concluding that the source is unreliable based on original research? Or is there a source for nose not being divided? In which case you had better cite it here. And this is not a case of "it exists", because the sources substantiate that the subject has received "significant coverage".
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I didn't think it was, polite, you might consider how productive this thread was, replying as you did, to something you didn't understand, with the insistence you do not understand it, and that is the fault the user you are replying to, not you, who could have done something else and said nothing
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among dogs in a particular area). If this unsourced stuff is deleted, nothing substantial remains. Our dog breed articles rely (except in the cases of a few crappy stubs which we clean up or delete, as appropriate) on highly reliable sources that catalogue in detail all of the world's known dog
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Just finished the second link, a fascinating area. If those studies are undertaken then there is much more to say in an article, an eternal problem, but the doubts and hypotheses expressed are notable, evidently. Just at a glance, and I know there is much that eludes me, I'll wait to read your
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which is what we have here; therefore, with reference to the double-nose (or split nose because it’s only one dog nose) we can either delete, merge/delete or #redirect the stand alone articles. I would support a merge/delete, but not a standalone based on what I’ve seen for sources.
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there's a source for it not actually having two noses but a strip of skin between its nostrils, or else why would (or even could) I have mentioned this? If you've not actually read the grand total of three tiny sources provided in the article (only two now present – the
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Did you read the above? "Sourced well enough" in what way? Show us how it is sourced well enough. The two "sources" you have provided are not usable. The first is trivial (though repeated) mention in an unreliable blog/wiki (appears to be
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and maintained. We have no way of knowing the consistency in breeding that particular trait or how many puppies are culled from each litter because they don’t have split noses. The impact factor of the Bulgarian Journal you cited above is
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a variety of dog (what else would it be? a chocolate pie?); that has nothing do with the AfD question. "I don't particularly care what happens to this article" – then please stop making completely invalid arguments to keep it.
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That is almost a cryptid article, and a particularly badly sourced one at that (...what is that Daily Mail ref doing there?) Unreliable material, garnished with lots of possibles and maybes. This is not encyclopedic material.
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since he is well-versed in grading journals, and his response validated my initial thoughts that we can dismiss the journal based on the unreliable sources they’ve used. There’s no question that split-nose dogs exist -
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story that's just a "gee-whiz, a dog that looks like it has two noses!" entertainment fluff piece with no concrete, encyclopedia-worthy information in it. The second is a cannibalized regurgitation of the BBC bit at
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Yeah, I'm just as confused. The sources he gave shows notability, especially with Dr Elliot. Plus he barbed about a jackalope which actually has it's own article here. Somewhat perplexing to be sure.
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doubt. It is not my concern if these are recognized as breeds or not. Dogs with split noses exist in Turkey, which is my point. They are not a product of some "believe it or not" media release.
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this away. "I just happened upon this and I gave my opinion" – yes, without anything to back it up. "f every newspaper picks it up and runs with there would be overwhelming notability" has
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Now its getting interesting and there may be a solution in that, a section or even article that discusses those points and linkable from those who look that way, for whatever reason.
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for any relationship between these varieties (neither of which are actually breeds). All we have is an unsourced assertion, then other websites repeating our assertion back at us.
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semantic because it implies that the term can only refer to proven breeds. We can refer to fictitious breeds as well. We are also able to refer to fictitious people and events.
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PS: This story isn't "way weird" at all. It's quite routine for random mutations to pop up in limited gene pools. That doesn't make them notable. They become notable (e.g.
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or not is irrelevant because I am not proposing its use for a reference on Knowledge (XXG). Its inclusion here is to demonstrate that these type of dogs exist, no more.
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can in no sense be considered a reliable source for a claim about a real world breed of dog existing. It might be reliable in some other context, but not this one. --
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is fine by me (nominator), as long as it's pruned to the material from actually reliable sources and any unsourced or dubious-source, speculative crap is removed.
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applies to article content, not analysis of source materials in internal discussions, or it would not be possible for us to evaluate sources at all. Yes,
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Lieutenant Colonel Percy Harrison Fawcett DSO was a British geographer, artillery officer, cartographer, archaeologist, and explorer of South America.
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Before you begin the character assassination, give me a chance to respond. The only target article I could think of for a redirect or merge would be
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Impolite? What are you talking about? I politely asked for an explanation of a !vote I could not understand. You are the one making this personal.
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If there were multiple similar articles in sources reliable for the context (not the Daily Mail) that weren't simply duplicates of each other there
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I'll admit, I started off thinking along the same lines that you are now, and then I did the research. My argument is simple - it is all about a
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I could support a merged article covering split-nosed dogs in general. I'll change my vote if you're volunteering to write it (or anyone else).
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what is your rationale for deletion? You have presented evidence that the dog exists and then voted delete. I don't follow your thinking.
748:) when there's lots of substantial coverage of them. The very fact that some people mistakenly think this is "way weird" is why there are 130: 861:. All of the mentions appear to be trivial outside of fringe sources, and there's not even an "Andean Tiger Hound" page to redirect to. -- 1338:(possibly from in-breeding) as some sources have alluded to. From that, a small subgroup of split nosed dogs have been created, named 724:
be enough to establish notability. This is someone connecting an isolated abnormality to a single unsubstantiated report from 1913. --
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general area of the earth that someone generations ago reported seeing a split-nosed dog. It's just meaningless, and it transgresses
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Almost everything in this article is unsourced opinion, supposition, and dubious assertions, including even the idea that there is a
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I missed that, and have heard of him. Probably still living it up at that lost city after the disappearing act at Dead Horse Camp.
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there" as the poem goes, nothing of encyclopedic substance or lasting notability. The two sources are very weak. The first is a
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A single article cannot establish notability (even if the coverage in it were not trivial, which it is in this case). See
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That wasn't a meaningful comment. The facts about what coverage we have (verging on none) isn't an "opinion". You can't
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Oh, there's also the Catalburun in Turkey, Pachon Navarro, and Andean Tiger Hound, all in with double noses. So is the
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Good god man, he held the Queen's commission!! So I am giving him credibility. There has been excellent use of
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situation, that's a situation where you just don't want to have to actually substantiate what you're saying.
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But it's not a single article that descirbes this - a search on Google Books turns up multiple hits e.g.
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one got lost somewhere along the way), then I think you should do so before posting further in this AfD.
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of dog with this feature (rather than, say, a mutation popping up here and there, perhaps because of the
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there are sufficient sources for a brief article. Whether the breed actually exists is irrelevant.
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Well, I knew there might be some hesitation about the low credibility of that journal, so I asked
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I think she's confused as well. She's now been through three different votes in successive edits.
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split is required for article-length reasons. Otherwise, they get merged, too. E.g., we have no
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it disproves the content of the article), but you don't actually want to share it - that's not a
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C'mon, man, it's already right here on this page and takes about 15 seconds to find via Google:
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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don't exist, but are notable anyway. Note: I came across this article while reading about
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not all of these dogs will sport the split nose characteristic of the breed
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Of the two we can read online, they are trivial mentions; the first in a "
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Hello. I saw a rationale for deletion when I read that. You say
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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suffers the same lack of RS as does this article, and so does
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this article. Can you tell us what this source is, please?
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