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promotional purposes on Knowledge. I guess It’s in essence getting back at him for putting himself on for promotional purposes and now he can’t get himself off it to hide his hideous behavior to little kids. The article is very misleading to his criminal behavior because he has now pleaded guilty to the charges. Poor guy It’s very sad that he is very sick on top of it all! I agree though he is only known through his own publicity where he got in news articles etc. He has not had that much publicity regarding his child molestation. There are so many perverts can’t give them all air time on the news! --
787:. I agree that this is directly due to wanting to minimize the sexual assault case, and I don't think this makes much difference. (I certainly do not think that punishing someone for past self promotion is a good reason to keep the article.) I do not find the policy on honoring such requests to be completely clear, but my past usage (consistent with other practice that I've seen at AfD) is that a "weak keep" might become a "weak delete". Now let me examine the sourcing. We have substantial coverage in reliable local news sources, including the 1142:, if you strip away the crime (again at the time of nom this was just known as an allegation) and the questionable noteworthiness of the bird injury, there is nothing that makes him look as someone besides a local area magician who sought some publicity. That was the basis of the AfD. But yes, I agree, there is clearly much more about this individuals notability than was included in the article, and it would be very helpful if someone included that so the weight of the article appropriately demonstrates his significance in the field of magic. 1675:
Young Magicians does not confer notability. So rather than marginally notable, in my estimation this is a BLP1E; the accusation of criminal conduct is responsible for the vast majority of the coverage. Since as others have noted, no non-primary source has recorded the outcome of the case, the event has not given him lasting notability. Much as I appreciate the problems of covering niche professions under our notability rules, I can find no evidence that this person meets any criterion for inclusion.
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article on his recovery from illness. This single article in a mainstream publication is insufficient to establish notability, and one of the trade references is to his own writing; his career has not even received a large amount of press in his field. His position heading a chapter of the Society of
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I agree the WP:GNGs are not right but this guy meets them and he is a bonafide pedophile! He pleaded guilty to gropeing little boys a few weeks ago and it did not make even the local news! I would assume from reading all this AFD he is not going to have luck at removing his article he made purely for
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Mike, you did some excellent research in finding those articles - I believe that they do establish that he was someone certainly of notability/significance within his own community. It would be helpful if those things were included in the article, and it would be awesome if you would do so. Given a
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apparently talked about his health problems in its August 2011 issue; he also had a review column in Genii. I'm seeing someone with a modicum of local celebrity, and a modestly good reputation in a relatively small profession. I think this adds up to a "weak keep" verging on "keep" for me without
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regarding the outcome of this discussion. I have no personal knowledge of this user, nor any prior history with this article. And felt it would be more efficient for the community to have an experienced user present more of the facts than if the subject himself brought a likely malformed and biased
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Which means that I need to decide whether I should exercise the discretion allowed by that policy to delete the article. I am doing so because I do not think that this article has any particular value to our readership: both stage magicians and alleged sex offenders are very common across the world
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The sources are very poor. If the abuse charge wasn't in play then this would be a simple delete. However, even if the abuse charge is notable, then that's still a BLP1E problem. Non-notable people who commit a crime don't become notable unless that crimes generates very significant coverage (and
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While he is marginally notable, lots of marginally notable people are not in Knowledge, and Knowledge is not any worse because of that. Removing this article will benefit the subject of the article and have negligible effect on the value of Knowledge. If he were more notable I’d have a different
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I'd like to state explicitly that we should never keep an article simply because we want to punish the article subject by recording their misdeeds for all to see; that sort of behavior would be detrimental to the project. However, I do want to push back on two parts: the notion that the article
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We don't evaluate article notability based upon the fact that a person did bad things or tried to manipulate Knowledge; we base it off of the coverage they receive from reliable sources. I believe firmly that the sourcing discussed both in my top-level comment and in subsequent comments, taken
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than the former. I'm not faulting you for not knowing about the conviction, and whilst I disagree that he is not a public figure, I can see that taking to AfD was a reasonable step. As for "unnecessary bias", I think it's equally important to recognise that our BLP policy exists to protect the
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article that is good clickbait). Some of the reviews of shows on his old website would help support notability, if they could be verified. And I did look earlier on the NYTimes, and found some passing mentions (which I think tend to help support that he was well-respected in the magician
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I don't think anybody arguing that him being charged with child sex abuse and thusly arrested makes him notable in its own right. What makes him notable is the in-depth coverage from multiple reliable sources that are independent from him. All people supporting "keep" are pointing
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I certainly agree that there's room for good faith disagreement on this AfD, and it looks likely that I will remain in the minority. I agree that Newsweek is fine for facts on this case, but I believe it may be suspect for establishing notability (as per the Newsweek entry on
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Newsweek source is reliable for the purposes that it's being used for. And, it indicates that the crime receive attention from a national outlet. It doesn't appear to have the hallmarks of clickbait reporting and it appears to have substantial original reporting (the
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he shouldn't have been considered notable before the recent legal issues, and those issues shouldn't make him notable. This is why self-promotion for one's business interest in local newspapers and trade magazines shouldn't be enough for biographies to meet GNG.
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made to support Oliver's double lung transfer. He seems to have been a high-profile individual while performing, at the very least, and I do not see a real reason to remove negative information in his article when it is well-sourced and presented neutrally. —
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than the article itself presents itself. I also agree, as mentioned in the nom, he was happy to contribute to this article, until he wasn't - which chips away at his questionable "public figure" status - which is now irrelevant (as it related to the
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as this term is used in US free speech law: neither being a stage magician (a routine trade) nor being an alleged sex offender make somebody particularly involved in public affairs. As such, the requirements for BLPREQUESTDELETE are met.
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After seeing more of the posts here, and looking at the References posted above by TiggerJay, he is notable, even before the criminal allegations. The article does need improvement to include better references. --
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normally would mean deletion if he's borderline notable, but the specific allegations raise concerns. The motivations of requesting deletion seem to be pretty clearly to remove allegations of child sexual abuse.
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even then, quite often the article would be on the event rather than the perpetrator, i.e. "Murder of X". As far as I can see, we don't even have a RS for the verdict on this one yet, a week after it happened.
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the request from the subject. I on the other hand do not think that deleting the article weakens the encyclopedia, and with the request of the subject, that leaves me at a weak delete.
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building an encyclopedia (not a soapbox!) written from a neutral point of view that is free for public use. Please keep the deletion arguments grounded within the framework of our
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was applied without the knowledge of him pleading guilty. A cursory check of news/google revealed no such conviction, no other editor seemed to know about it, and it wasn't until
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Joe, absolutely the benefit of this process is bringing forward information otherwise unknown or not previously discovered. With new information available, he certainly does
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The BLPCRIME information was re-introduced into the article by an admin because it was discovered (after this AfD was proposed) that he was actually convicted of this crime.
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covers a particular performance of his in-depth. It also states that Oliver is a regular performer on Broadway and that he had gained reviews from NBC News's Matt Lauer;
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also has a number of reviews on it which, if the site isn't fabricating things, indicates that he's received reviews from a Brooklyn newspaper (
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I'll work on trying to incorporate more of this information into the article. There's definitely a lot of room to expand on the career. —
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The BLPCRIME material was removed because he is a non-public figure and has not yet been convicted of any crime, consistent with policy.
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issue which he has been unsuccessful in removing from the page. As a result of himself self-identifying, his edits have resulted in a
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Also, although it is mostly moot: I agree he's not a low-profile individual. I disagree that a moderately successful magician is a
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the subject has pled guilty, been convicted and is serving his sentence, so you might take his subsequent attempts to invoke
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For the reasons I've explained in my above comment and elsewhere, I believe that the individual is a notable person (per
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to suppress widely-reported negative information about people who have otherwise been happy to use us for promotion. –
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as we define it, since he was a career stage performer happy to court coverage in nationally-circulated media like the
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Wasn't notable before the child abuse charges, therefore still isn't now, regardless of the result of the court case.
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professional magician: an article would slightly contribute to the encyclopedia, but looks pretty far from essential.
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I'd kindly ask you to voluntarily strike your responses to 力, along these lines, by crossing them out with <s: -->
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alleges to be the subject of this article and has actively edited this page since 2008. On the article talk page he
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after further research there is a lot of good stuff on this character/ pedophile. Article should be expanded etc.
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privacy of people who haven't necessarily sought publicity, and protect Knowledge from legal consequences,
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and that he was regularly was a part of "Monday Night Magic". According to an archived version of his
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coverage from being a magician and substantial coverage of the court case adds up to notability. —
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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was misapplied here and the section on the child sex abuse allegations should be restored. –
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applies, as the coverage is of a marginal nature, and they are mostly a private individual.
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made on the talk page came across in a very harrasing way. But I did notice he is auistc!
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report that would be a reliable source for the facts and would contribute towards notablity.
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brought it to my attention on the article talk page after the AfD. Additionally looking at
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However, this situation has brought this article to attention, and it seems like it
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Talk:David Oliver (magician)#Nomination of David Oliver (magician) for deletion
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I don't think that's anywhere near a reasonable reading of the guideline. Per
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which is now a conviction). Overall I believe this is likely turning out
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opinion, but I feel that, in this case, the balance tilts to deletion.
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that focused on his double lung transplant (brief summary available
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and has been a public figure during his magic performance days. —
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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and WP:GNG. sources and overall notability is within inclusion.
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that describes his illness and his role in the Magic community;
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per nom" doesn't have the same ring to it, unfortunately.
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I believe that the 826:applies, he'd have to be a 117:(AfD)? Read these primers! 1802: 898:outside of the Boston area 447:-per nom. Best Regards.--- 793:Magic (American magazine) 532:. This individual passes 271:, which is likely due to 1775:Please do not modify it. 1221:appears far more notable 726:(emphasis added). 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