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his honour. We are only using wikipedia as a medium to inform people about the history which is often lost in oblivion if not preserved. And I believe wikipedia should be the same. Its a platform for information and I am generously sharing information. I understand there are not a lot of articles about the kingdom due to the obscurity in the region during the British Raj. But now there are attempts that are being made to preserve such history. I am a journalist myself and I have seen so many articles on princely states and estates but none of them are questioned or proposed for deletion. Kindly, go through my article and let me know if you think there is something that must be edited. But please its a humble request that you dont delete this page as I have worked for months, day and night, researching and writing this article.
449:(1939), which is an effort to reconstruct the medieval era history of the Sankara dynasty's rule by an author who, as the book's introduction notes, is "a scion of a Raj-family which once held independent authority in the Orissa Gadjaths; and he has now become a distinguished member of the present Jeypore, the old Nandapur, Maharaja family by marriage. His second son Sree Ramakrishna Deoas Yuvaraja of Jeypore, will,..., carry forward the Jeypore line into the new Self-governing Federated India." 644:, "if the source material exists, even very poor writing and referencing within a Knowledge (XXG) article will not decrease the subject's notability." There definitly needs to be improvement to the article (at times is seems like closer to a geneology than history of a kingdom), there are many reliable, independent academic sources on the subject itself. 703:
state government website, which is entitled to as much respect as one from (say) Michigan. This is not from a parish council (which might be untrustworthy). Nevertheless, the article needs a vast amount of work; for example, the map is actually labelled Northern Madras: it may show the princely state, but not obviously.
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Hello sir, The erstwhile kingdom of jeypore is of a great significance to the people of the particular place. Till the coastal city of Vizagapatnam you can see the name and noble social works of the dynasty. The 25th king donated lands to keep the Andhra University running, there is a statue there in
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This is a horrid article, mostly about the present titular princes. However that is not a reason for deletion, but for improvement. If their UK equivalents are anything to go by, local history periodicals are a reliable source, but not necessarily Internet-accessible. In one case, we have it on a
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Thus, even if one discounts their antiquity and obscure publishers, neither of these works are reliable independent sources that one can build an encyclopedic article upon; and, while they are of potential value as primary material to a scholar studying the area's history, they cannot and should not
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His Highness the Maharajah, Sri Sri Sri Vikraima Deo, Azem, Mahalrajah, Yujadud Dowla, Mahabat Assar, Yedal Yemeenay, Salatnut, Samsamay, Killapathay, Islam Sri Jhadkhand Badusha, Maharajah of Jeypore, of the Solar Race, the possessor of a hilly tract, in the Vizagapatam District, is naturally mild
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And there are informations from both pre Raj era and post Raj era. If you have problems with raj era then i can delete the post raj era material. But the information is based on Kumar Vidyadhar Singh's book Nandapur the forsaken kingdom, he was a learned writer, he researched through the royal
610:. The sources that I gave above confirm that this was at one time an independent state, and for even longer was semi-independent. The source described as "dubious" by Bishonen as being on a government website is written by a reader in history at 370:: we don't want you to delete post-raj material (in so far as there is any); that's the kind of material Indian historical articles want. Post-Raj sources, i. e. more modern sources, are the best, especially academic ones. KSB Singh's book 622:
dubious. These sources also contain plenty of information, so, if the current article has problems, it can be rewritten on their basis. Notability is an attribute of an article subject, not the current state of an article.
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for a detailed explanation of the many problems with Raj era sources? Pre-Raj sources are older still and it's very rarely they can be used. Could you please follow those links, now provided for the third time? Oh, and
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and pacific like his father, possesses a quick apprehension and extensive capacity, evinces talents for business, and is no less distinguished for sobriety and decorum of deportment than for literary acquirements...
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Hello, I have deleted more material that used Raj sources. Now what is left is the geneological table and a few current and post 1947 details. Please do check and let me know if its still up for deletion.
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Therefore, even if there are problems with the sourcing of the current article it is still notable enough to be an article (albeit one that requires significant revisions and review).
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that a proper encyclopedic article would read very differently from what we currently have. For anyone interested in undertaking that work, perhaps the place to start would be
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is not a good argument. Official government websites are dubious, academic sources are preferred. Please sign your posts with five tildes, ~~~~ , so we know who's speaking.
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be notable. However, the current version is deeply problematic because of the sources it relies on. In particular, the main two sources used are:
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for the problems with British Raj sources. They should generally not be used, and certainly whole articles should never be based on them.
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is a 22-page academic paper published in 1995 about this kingdom, and "KANAK DURGA AND DASHERA IN JEYPORE - A HISTORICAL REVIEW" at
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And most of the princely state wiki pages are using Raj sources, I hope I see them deleted in the near future if thats your policy.
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I can find nothing but passing mentions of "the little kingdom of Jeypore" using online searches. There is a trail that points to
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Four tildes (which was probably meant here) would be better, because it provides your user name and a time stamp.
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in Western India) but there seems to be enough out there indicating that the subject itself may be notable
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Orissa Historical Research Journal, 1992, B. Schnepel, "Origin and Consolidation of the Kingdom of Jeypore"
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is a 7-page paper published by the Odisha State Museum in 2016. There are probably more sources found by
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this is an article published by the official government website of Odisha state in India. link
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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is from 1938, which means it's a Raj era book and should not be used. A really old book like
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The Fifth Annual Report from the Select Committee on the Affairs of the East India Company
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be read uncritically or used as sources on wikipedia . The remaining cited sources
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The Jungle Kings: Ethnohistorical Aspects of Politics and Ritual in Orissa
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http://magazines.odisha.gov.in/Orissareview/2013/jun/engpdf/70-72.pdf
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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based on the existence of sources this is not fake, and passes
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Searching for sources myself, I didn't find a ton (beware of
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in the basis of sources found by Phil Bridger and Zoozaz 1.
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of the article, only support some of its peripheral content.
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but I don't have the inclination to read through them now.
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This article is based on unreliable sources from the
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