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167:. Strangely enough, this article does actually have useful encyclopedic content despite the fact it's currently under a completely unencyclopedic title. It'll need a bit of re-organizing to meet chemical article standards, but it does have potential, and as Smulthaup pointed out, there is a verifiable scientific basis to the whole thing. I saw this in recent changes and had the same reaction Rjd0060 had, but after reading it, this probably doesn't need to be deleted. 233:
THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF LONDON SERIES B-BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES 270 (1518): 929-933 MAY 7 2003, which showed that doesnt work that way in mice, and "Olfaction and identification of unrelated individuals: Examination of the mysteries of human odor recognition" by Olsson SB et al, JOURNAL OF CHEMICAL ECOLOGY 32 (8): 1635-1645 AUG 2006, a fascinating more general paper. I've put the abstract of both papers on
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Not notable or soundly based yet. All based on one single unconfirmed scientific paper, published in 2001 and cited 11 times only since then, according to Web of Science--most of them about technical analysis & not directly relevant. Two are, "The scent of age" by Osada K, et al: PROCEEDINGS OF
330:, one has to remember that this is, in part, a 'translation error' and a 'cultural insensitivity.' That is, what the article is saying is so politically incorrect, it wouldn't be said by most Westerners. However, we often see less-than-perfect terminology when translating from other languages. 256:
The scientific journal article referenced in the Knowledge (XXG) article is itself confirmation of prior work. The journal article itself references Nazzaro-Porro M, Passi S, Boniforti L, Belsito F: Effect of aging on fatty acids in skin surface lipids. J Invest Dermatol 73:112 to 117, 1979
280:, and I already got rid of the "in popular culture" section. The scientific, encyclopedic content relates to the chemical, but the "in popular culture" references in "The Simpsons" and "The Colbert Report" don't say a thing about 2-nonenal. -- 133::Before you pull the trigger to kill it, read the article. A scientific basis (i.e. an abstract of a referenced article in a peer reviewed scientific journal) for this phenomenon reconginzed in 346:, per Elkman. This is a legitimate topic, and one that persons are curious about... it's not much different than explaining the role of eliminated platelets in giving something a brown color. 113: 310:, allow some mention of the "old people smell" claim as it's sourceable, but the scientific basis is weak for attributing the entirety of this meme to one particular hormone. -- 479: 370:
to 2-Nonenal. The remaining section would be fine for a chemical article, and could be cleaned up w/ the standard chemical information templates.
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You have got to be kidding me. This isn't encyclopedic. It is complete nonsense. It probably qualifies for speedy, but this will do.
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As an "old man" I must say this is a highly offensive title, akin to "Jew smell" or "Negro smell" and has only one possibly
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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who, quite frankly, often searching under highly offensive titles, and are amongst WP's biggest users.
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but because it touches on so many chemical topics it needed its own page for ease of reference.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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incidentally, this is about the feeblest attempt at a pop culture section I have yet to see.
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If only because it could be re-created under an article about Old Age or Odors.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Yawn. As for any substance to the notion, follow User:DGG. --
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per Elkman, Hersfold, Mandsford, et al. Useful for
300:, it's not unsalvageable, has some scientific basis 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 498:The above move seems the best course of action. • 188:I originally started to include the content under 522:). No further edits should be made to this page. 391:Old Person Smell is a meme found in pop culture. 8: 478:: This debate has been included in the 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 342:(with the redirect that follows) to 204:09:48PM, Central Time, 22-Sep-2007 141:09:02PM, Central Time, 22-Sep-2007 24: 480:list of Science-related deletions 505:13:37, 24 September 2007 (UTC) 490:21:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 470:17:25, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 455:merge useful content and cites 442:04:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 422:03:59, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 398:02:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 382:23:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 363:23:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 351:15:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 335:09:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 319:08:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 298:07:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 285:04:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 269:04:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 249:03:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 225:03:16, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 212:02:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 196:. I also considered it under 181:02:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 152:02:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 125:01:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 56:04:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC) 1: 276:the encyclopedic content to 539: 515:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 389:. The article starts: 210:comment was added at 208:signed but undated 492: 483: 291:keep and clean-up 214: 530: 517: 502: 484: 474: 379: 376: 205: 190:palmitoleic acid 111: 93: 70:Old Person Smell 62:Old Person Smell 34: 538: 537: 533: 532: 531: 529: 528: 527: 526: 520:deletion review 513: 500: 407:reliable source 377: 372: 84: 68: 65: 53:Espresso Addict 44:The result was 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 536: 534: 525: 524: 508: 507: 501:Lawrence Cohen 493: 472: 447: 446: 445: 444: 425: 424: 400: 384: 365: 353: 337: 321: 301: 288: 271: 260:User:Smulthaup 251: 235:User:DGG/smell 227: 215: 202:User:Smulthaup 183: 176: 173: 154: 142: 139:User:Smulthaup 118: 117: 64: 59: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 535: 523: 521: 516: 510: 509: 506: 503: 497: 494: 491: 488: 481: 477: 473: 471: 468: 464: 460: 456: 452: 449: 448: 443: 439: 435: 434: 429: 428: 427: 426: 423: 420: 416: 412: 408: 404: 401: 399: 396: 392: 388: 385: 383: 380: 375: 369: 366: 364: 361: 357: 354: 352: 349: 345: 341: 338: 336: 333: 329: 325: 322: 320: 317: 313: 309: 305: 302: 299: 296: 292: 289: 286: 283: 279: 275: 272: 270: 266: 262: 261: 255: 252: 250: 246: 242: 241: 236: 231: 228: 226: 223: 219: 216: 213: 209: 203: 199: 195: 194:vaccenic acid 191: 187: 184: 182: 179: 178: 177: 174: 171: 166: 162: 158: 155: 153: 150: 146: 143: 140: 137:is included. 136: 132: 129: 128: 127: 126: 123: 115: 109: 105: 101: 97: 92: 88: 83: 79: 75: 71: 67: 66: 63: 60: 58: 57: 54: 50: 49: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 514: 511: 495: 475: 454: 450: 431: 402: 390: 386: 373: 367: 355: 339: 323: 303: 290: 273: 258: 253: 238: 229: 217: 185: 169: 168: 164: 156: 144: 130: 119: 45: 43: 31: 28: 409:. It fails 206:—Preceding 135:pop culture 487:Pete.Hurd 459:2-Nonenal 360:Operating 348:Mandsford 344:2-Nonenal 332:Ryoung122 328:2-Nonenal 308:2-Nonenal 278:2-Nonenal 198:2-Nonenal 161:2-Nonenal 48:2-Nonenal 463:students 312:Dhartung 114:View log 46:Move to 467:Bearian 387:Comment 254:Comment 186:Comment 165:cleanup 149:Mbisanz 122:Rjd0060 87:protect 82:history 419:Edison 403:Delete 378:figura 356:Delete 324:Delete 295:JJJ999 282:Elkman 230:Delete 222:Qworty 218:Delete 145:Delete 91:delete 496:Move. 395:Hoary 108:views 100:watch 96:links 16:< 476:Note 453:and 451:Move 438:talk 415:WP:N 413:and 411:WP:V 368:Move 340:Move 316:Talk 304:Move 274:Move 265:talk 245:talk 192:and 175:fold 172:Hers 163:and 157:Move 131:Keep 104:logs 78:talk 74:edit 482:. 457:to 433:DGG 306:to 240:DGG 159:to 112:– ( 440:) 417:. 314:| 293:- 267:) 247:) 106:| 102:| 98:| 94:| 89:| 85:| 80:| 76:| 51:. 485:— 436:( 374:B 287:\ 263:( 243:( 116:) 110:) 72:(

Index

Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
2-Nonenal
Espresso Addict
04:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Old Person Smell
Old Person Smell
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
View log
Rjd0060
01:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
pop culture
User:Smulthaup
Mbisanz
02:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
2-Nonenal
Hersfold
02:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
palmitoleic acid
vaccenic acid
2-Nonenal
User:Smulthaup

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