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284:, where this very notable part of history is already covered with the detail that an encyclopedia is supposed to have. "Liberation of Albania" is a logical search term, and should direct the reader to something more than the lone sentence "The Liberation of Albania is considered to be the liberation of Albania from nazi Germany forces on November 29, 1944." Fortunately, other people wrote about this already. 414:) 06:19, 3 February 2011 (UTC) I also added a book from historian Bicoku that treats exclusively about this day and the falsification of documents to claim that the last German soldier to leave Albania did so in November 29, while this is not corresponding to the historical truth. You may delete for now as I don't have access to the book, but I find copy pasted pieces of the book in several blogs such as 511:, and we can be done with it. Looking back on it, I think that the person who created this was simply wanting to write a sentence or two about why November 29 is a holiday, rather than the CliffNotes version of the history of the Albanian resistance movement. I'm not sure why people think that this is the first time that the topic has ever been written about on Knowledge. 406:. It just requires expansion. The resistance lasted 5 years and this was the final act. There is some notability as to the fact that there is a lot of discussion in Albania as to whether it was a chosen date to have the same liberation day with the Yugoslavs or because it just happened to be that day. -- 663:
I'll withdraw my original !vote for "obvious redirect", based on Vinie007's excellent work, since that's no longer an obvious suggestion, and improvements should be encouraged. To some extent, though, I agree with Nipsonanomhmata-- it would work just as well to make Vinie's information as a section
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That thought occurred to me also, but neither of those involved partisans fighting to liberate a nation from an occupying force. In the case of the Communists, it was a relatively peaceful transition from one Albanian government to another, and Albania had cut its ties with the Soviets many years
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before that. As for the Ottoman Empire, the creation of Albania and other states was something imposed by the victors on the vanquished after the Central Powers surrendered. Like Yakushima, I'm not opposed to this being about what's referred to there as
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I wouldn't be opposed to an article about an Albanian national holiday commemorating the decided date at which liberation was considered final. But otherwise, "the liberation of Albania" describes what that was and how it was done,
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to preserve the title Liberation of Albania as a redirect to that section, i.e., a redirect to "Albanian Resistance of World War II#Liberation Day". Just some thoughts there.
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Why? Well, sometimes people search wrong, and read too lazily, and jump to conclusions. People like, well, me. Sometimes,
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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per Gene93k's point above: yes, this is highly notable, but no, it does not require a separate article.
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Obviously a notable event. I'm aware the the people there did not feel very liberated at the time.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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what about liberating Albania from the communists, or from the Ottoman Empire?
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Clearly notable, of course it needs expansion but there is no reason to delete.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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or "Dita e Çlirimit", as the Independence Day is November 28, 1912 (
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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One line page thats only been edited by two users. No
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Delete or and merge into an albanian page. -- 190: 8: 325:list of History-related deletion discussions 299:list of Albania-related deletion discussions 319: 293: 323:: This debate has been included in the 297:: This debate has been included in the 440:An existing article already does that. 7: 529:Albanian Declaration of Independence 457:: Then would you oppose a rename to 418:, which I cannot rely on for now. -- 202:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/APOX 637:Albanian Resistance of World War II 281:Albanian Resistance of World War II 50:Albanian Resistance of World War II 24: 664:in the other article (a merge) 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 673:02:20, 9 February 2011 (UTC) 653:21:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC) 620:21:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC) 607:20:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC) 595:19:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 566:04:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC) 549:19:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC) 516:14:07, 4 February 2011 (UTC) 492:06:01, 4 February 2011 (UTC) 471:19:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC) 450:14:52, 3 February 2011 (UTC) 428:19:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC) 399:11:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC) 379:08:58, 2 February 2011 (UTC) 340:14:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC) 314:14:45, 26 January 2011 (UTC) 289:13:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC) 271:10:31, 26 January 2011 (UTC) 250:10:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC) 232:08:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC) 214:10:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC) 200:Discussion was misplaced on 73:19:03, 9 February 2011 (UTC) 709: 685:Please do not modify it. 537:Liberation Day (Albania) 509:Liberation Day (Albania) 459:Liberation Day (Albania) 32:Please do not modify it. 579:Restructure or redirect 438:from beginning to end. 615:Did some expansion -- 87:Liberation of Albania 79:Liberation of Albania 48:. 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