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I really don't see why you think this list is absurd, Red-Light district has become more generic in it's use. I actually think the list could be shaved down a bit. The lack of prose, commentary, history as to why each location should be included in the list worries me a bit. This should be about
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needs improved sourcing and pruning (some of the ones in areas I'm familiar with are rubbish), and the legal status is largely a matter for other articles, but as ever, AfD is not cleanup. It could do with some more general improvement as well - many of these places need context (for example,
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