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619:: My goodness, what the hell is this article? It is thoroughly unreadable in its current state. I strongly doubt the article can be rewritten given its broken state. I suggest TNT for this crap, hopefully we'll move Mccapra's better version in the place of this abomination of a Knowledge article.
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Cantonese opera performer" + a source would be a good start while the article gets back on track.
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99% of the poor content was added by a single IP editor. The version of the article before the changes isn't the best either. Stubifying this would probably be the best option.
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