315:- At various points when I first started this, I contacted a user with Durham to see what Durham says about a place. From the minimal instances I've seen, Durham calls something a "locality" or "point on the railroad", and this single user (who is an admin!) created all of these, apparently under the presumptions that localities and points on the railroad met GEOLAND. There are probably hundreds more of these that need AFD or PROD. I've been prodding the most blatant ones (mainly river crossings, ranches, and railroad sidings). See
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298:- I, too, find no evidence that this location was ever inhabited. Durham is looking like a bad source at the moment (but: I don't have access to it so this may actually be on the person who created the article, some of the sourcing elsewhere seems to mistate what the actual sources quoted in the article say).
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