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In order: a) That there are even less notable characters is not an argument to keep this one; b) "Non-trivial" applies to each source in isolation, and thus even a plethora of trivial mentions does not add up to one non-trivial one; c) Sources which have not been provided cannot be used as evidence;
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Not every character receives even those mentions. The comments in all the reviews that are not officially licensed represents significant non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources. And this is just what shows up on Google News and Google Books, which is fairly comprehensive, but not all
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in which we are discussing which characters should remain and which should be merged in a list of characters. Since they are some real world elements around (conception, interview, action figures, etc.) I am very confident that we can create a high quality List of characters where we can merge all
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analyzes the characters' relationships in a critical and scholarly manner which is hardly "trivial"; c) I link to the results above and cite an example in point b in this reply; d) which means something other than deletion; e) don't see a problem there, because even without the other results, this
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that is of interest to our readers and editors and as it can be verified, as the other discussions on lesser characters did not result in deletion, there is no real reason for outright deletion. I can understand cases for merging and redirect, but notability and verifiability are more than
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Parroting my term "significant non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources" is unproductive. That book search does nothing to establish that the coverage is "non-trivial" in any of those sources - several of which are obviously officially-licensed and thus not even independent.
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the important information from the individual articles. Since "Michael Corvin" appears in three films and other media, it makes the character a pleasant searchable item, so deletion is not an option. To perform a good merge we need time to discuss it. --
387:. I view that book along with the comments in reviews as well as the material from such interviews as the one cite above as sufficiently non-trivial, but as always I will see what else I can find. Thanks for keeping an open-mind. Sincerely, -- 356:
A post-facto redirect is not an argument to keep. Being a "main character in a major film series" is not grounds to keep unless such a role induces non-trivial coverage in multiple independent sources. You've found one so far in the
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I am not arguing to redirect, I think this character is sufficiently notable to keep due to non-trivial coverage in multiple indepdent sources. Something else to look at for out of universe information are interviews, such as
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Does not establish notability through significant coverage of real world context in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject.
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book, which while only a page long is at least non-trivial. Find more of that caliber and I'll be happy to change my mind.
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for the reasons above. And this "notability through the inclusion of real world information" nonsense is a plague on WP.
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where the actor talks about playing the character. He is also one of five characters from the series to be made into an
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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d) being a "legitimate search term" may be an argument for a post-facto redirect, but not for a keep; e)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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magazines and newspapers with reviews will turn up in these results. The character is a
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Reply: a) Well, it is certainly not an argument to delete this one; b) Such sources as
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due to significant non-trivial coverage in independent reliable secondary sources (see
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one is still notable anyway as a main character in a major franchise. Sincerely, --
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sufficient to justify something other than outright deletion. Sincerely, --
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Per the three guys who came ahead of me in this discussion. :)
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
MBisanz
05:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Michael Corvin
Michael Corvin
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
notability
Underworld (film series)
real world information
reliable, third party sources
original research
unnecessary plot details
TTN
talk
23:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Underworld (film series)
WP:FICT
Mgm

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