732:- Piotrus offers an interesting comment I would like others to address. If there are reliable sources for plot summary alone, is it sufficient to satisfy the notability guidelines? I find it rather odd that it would be enough, but I would like to learn what others think. For now, I am leaning towards delete, but still thinking about it... -
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Thanks for the list. Let me review them: is mainly about the biblical seven sins, doesn't even compare it much to the movie ones, it is pretty much just stating the obvious 'the seven sins from the movie were inspired by the biblical ones, and here is what those are'.
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834:: Please click on the Scholar search above, and you’ll find a handful of informative books and a masters thesis, which discuss these very characters in some interesting contexts. This article seems to add to the encyclopedic knowledge on the subject matter.--
567:(official blog) is a bit better, as it introduces the characters comic book history, but there is little analysis and the source is not independent, IMHO. The Comocbook one does the same (recap the character history from the comics), but is more independent:
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Sources 3 & 4 above make a stab at independent summary and commentary, but IMO fall short of what we require in terms of substantial coverage, and the rest is either in-house or interview/promotional. Not quite getting there.
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