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488:. In fairness to the nominator, the searches are muddied by the several variations of Spy Vs Spy, V.Spy V. Spy, and other dodges of a possible infringement on the Mad comic strip. This sometimes awful band got frequent airplay and attention, I could not be ignorant of them no matter how hard I tried. Reliable soures will be multiple and easily found. Keep. 563:(EC)Sometimes noms overlook something, like the variant spelling of this name, and they demonstrate their respect for other contributors time by withdrawing. This is a good thing, it often precedes speedy closes, and avoids wasting the time of an admin who has to carefully go over the facts and references. Thanks for the AFSA link McWomble. 575:
suggested that this be done, perhaps it could be contemplated. As it is, you clearly want this article to be kept, as indicated in your many posts above. Asking the nominator to withdraw the nomination is simply another one of your "keep" arguments, and a poor one at that. Please don't do this in the future.
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It is not written in the AfD guidelines that this suggestion is inappropriate. This is why I said it was inappropriate, not prohibited. Yes, nominations can be withdrawn at any time, but that is at the discretion of the nominator and your request is in poor faith here. If an uninvolved person
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Highly notable 80s band, but as google wasn't around in the 80s finding (online) sources may be difficult, but not impossible - I'm sure they've done national tours/ charted etc. I haven't been involved in music band notability debates before, is having songs/music housed in
609:'s suggestion that this AfD be closed appears reasonable - particularly given both the volume and impeccable quality of the sources he's produced. I'm more concerned by the nominator's apparent desire to argue for deletion - which to my mind has the distinct whiff of 444: 704: 213:
libraries enough to prove notability? Quality of the article needs improving, but that is irrelevant here. As they predate myspace by about 20 years, the previous comment is misleading.
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Vanity article enhanced by one of the now-defunct band's founders, who also created an article about himself (that was subsequently redirected - the original text is here
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It is inappropriate to request that an AfD nomination be withdrawn. This debate will run the standard ~5 days, at which point an admin will close it as he/she sees fit.
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Where is it written in the AfD guidelines that suggesting the nominator withdraw the nomination is inappropriate? Nominations can be withdrawn at any time.
210: 385:. It proves the that at least two albums on a major label exist, therefore meets the criteria. I thought that about the archive first, but their 747: 430: 508:'s recommended sources (and many others) I suggest this nom now be withdrawn. Issues of vanity and COI can be corrected through editing. 433: 139:-- the links are all MySpace and YouTube related. I have found no independent verification of the discography in any reliable source. 638:
I think we can assume good faith on that part. Notability has since been established and I am editing out the vanity and COI issues.
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This band has clearly established notability, and the nomination should be withdrawn or speedy closed straightaway. This is a
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isn't an independent source but it shows one of the band members standing in front of a V. Spy V. Spy gold record. Yes, a
685:. Very well known 1980s Australian alternative rock group who released approx 8 albums over a period of some 20 years. -- 368:
criteria. The archive site doesn't prove notability -- it just proves the archive collects everything that's out there.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
610: 307: 429:. The band is notable for chart hits. Web coverage is hard to come by but they get 2 Google Books hits with 260: 303:
seems to verify the discography. (To Lugnuts and The-Pope, that suggests they predate MySpace by 21 years.)
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There are plenty of 80s bands whose notability is easily confirmed. This is not one of them.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
297:"Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels". 576: 531: 468: 417: 686: 614: 369: 235: 140: 49: 456: 452: 365: 132: 436: 300: 136: 729: 657: 639: 606: 550: 517: 390: 348: 266: 214: 187: 331: 711: 386: 159: 109: 464: 413: 315:"Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country". I realise 460: 336:
Also 111 items by the band are in Australia's National Film and Sound Archive.
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I'm willing to assume it was an error in overlooking the variant name.
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I agree and shall give the demand the consideration it deserves.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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contradicts your assertion. They do not collect everything.
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per Gene Poole. Eminently notable Oz alt rock group.
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Spy vs Spy (Australian band)
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