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Briars Rugby (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable sub-district rugby club. Zero WP:RSs. Fails WP:NTEAM, WP:GNG. Cabrils (talk) 05:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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Helen Donaldson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2018. Not clear that the subject passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 15:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Only the first Google news hit seems decent, but otherwise seems coverage mainly for namesakes. LibStar (talk) 23:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Satisfies WP:NACTOR with her stage roles , specifically: 1. touring with The Pirates of Penzance as Mabel (multiple reviews at each of these stops). A recording of one of the shows was also released , the soundtrack of it won a 1995 ARIA Award. 2. touring with The Mikado as Yum Yum . 3. touring with H.M.S. Pinafore as Josephine (not just the highlighted section) (recording also released). 4. touring with A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum as Philia "Forum Is Light Musical Theatre At Its Very Best", The Canberra Times, 2 April 1999 - Vincent, Jeremy (4 January 1999), "Revival revels in farce, not class", The Australian. She is the prime focus of articles Brown, Phil (23 July 2008), "Back to the start", Brisbane News and Kelly, Patricia (26 June 2004), "Family puts a song in Helen's well-travelled heart", Courier Mail. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Sara Macliver (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2020. Not clear that the subject passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 16:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: Passes GNG I don't believe the nominator checked all sources. I have found a lot of coverage about them using Google and other search engines Monophile 💬 10:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

@Monophile Which of the sources are both independent and have significant coverage? What am I missing here? I am not seeing even one source that is both independent and has in-depth coverage.4meter4 (talk) 18:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment. @Monophile Here is a source analysis of every source and external link in the article currently. Not one meets the criteria at WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 18:57, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Source	Significant?	Independent?	Reliable?	Secondary?	Pass/Fail	Notes
"Directory Search Results". directory.uwa.edu.au.	N	Y	Y	?	N	Broken url, but its a directory listing with no attributed author. Unclear if it is a secondary source of information. Lacks in-depth coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Ryan, Gavin (2011). Australia's Music Charts 1988–2010 (PDF ed.). Mt Martha, Victoria, Australia: Moonlight Publishing. p. 173.	N	Y	Y	Y	N	Brief mention in a table. No in-depth coverage or discussion. Fails WP:SIGCOV
"ARIA Awards – Winners by Award". Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA). Retrieved 12 November 2018.	Y	Y	Y	N	N	A primary source, so can not be used to prove notability as it is not secondary. Fails WP:SIGCOV
Sara Macliver website	Y	?	N	?	N	Not actually a website of the subject. Bach cantatas is a website anyone can edit, including the subject, just like wikipedia. Not reliable.
*Naxos website	Y	N	Y	N	N	Lacks independence from the subject as it is her record label. Fails WP:SIGCOV
Post Newspapers interview	Y	N	?	Y	N	Interviews are considered WP:PRIMARY sources because they typically don't involve fact checking and lack independence from the subject. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Total qualifying sources					0	There must be multiple qualifying sources to meet the notability requirements

• Keep. Verifiably Satisfies three criteria of WP:NMUSIC by being nominated for ARIA Awards and charting on Australia's main album chart and releasing multiple albums on ABC Classics. duffbeerforme (talk) 21:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

• A very quick search found and in addition to the two album reviews I've added to the page. A simple BEFORE found stuff. Try it. duffbeerforme (talk) 23:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

• Keep has significant coverage in reliable sources such as the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper linked above by Duffbeerforme. Also has charted on Australia's national album chart for a pass of WP:NMUSIC in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:59, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Transition Dreams (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails the books notability guideline. The article is based mostly on primary sources and has only one independent review, which does not establish the notability of the subject. A quick check before the nomination did not turn up any more useful sources. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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I'm fully aware of the problems with the article. I created it during a time when I still had the impression, that fulfilling notability is not considered as important if the author is very well known. Egan's novel Schild's Ladder for example up until a few months back didn't even have a single reference and almost completely consisted of only plot summary. It still contains not even a single review (although I intend to add the one I've found for the german article soon). The same holds for "TAP". I only realized afterwards that it was because the articles were created in 2003 and 2007 respectively, when the guidelines in their current form probably didn't even exist yet. Afterwards, I tried to improve some articles already created, but didn't find much more to add to establish notatbility. Hence if the article gets deleted, I'm okay with that. Samuel Adrian Antz (talk) 22:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Luminous (book), the Egan book this story is part of (and that the above mentioned review is for). No indepedent notablity. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

FXOpen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Doesn't meet WP:NCORP. Forex-related references are not useful per WP:TRADES. Gheus (talk) 14:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

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Now Winter 2006 (Australian series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Does not meet WP:NALBUM. No significant coverage. Folkezoft (talk) 21:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Speedy Keep. Nom states that it does not meet NALBUM but a quick look at the article shows it went platinum so meets #3. Nomination is based on a false claim. duffbeerforme (talk) 04:07, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Now Autumn 2007 (Australian series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Does not meet WP:NALBUM. No significant coverage. Folkezoft (talk) 21:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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2024 Melbourne Land Forces Expo protests (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:EVENT. The event is not notable enough outside of Israel–Hamas war protests. Coverage of the protest has been WP:ROUTINE, similar to any other protest that has occurred in Melbourne. GMH Melbourne (talk) 07:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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  Keep - the coverage of this specific event, in my view, goes beyond what’s outlined in WP:ROUTINE as well as beyond what can be described as “similar to any other protest that has occurred in Melbourne”. There’s been loads of mainstream media coverage, both national and international, in the weeks and days leading up, during the days of protest itself with all sides chiming in/being quoted with their perspectives, and even in the days following, coverage of these protests is still trickling in. In short, there’s pages and pages of coverage, news articles, interviews with mainstream media outlets, etc. This isn’t just once off circumstantial coverage - it’s been sustained and consistent. Geelongite (talk) 08:01, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

• GMH Melbourne: procedural query, did you mean to nominate this twice? Other AfD here — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 08:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

  @ClaudineChionh: Hello, No I didn't mean to, my internet cut out halfway between twinkle processing the AfD and the popup box said to process it again. Should I close the first one? GMH Melbourne (talk) 08:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

  GMH Melbourne: thought it might have been a computer hiccup. I think it's best to close the other one as there isn't any discussion there yet. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 08:17, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

   Done GMH Melbourne (talk) 08:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Keep: coverage of the protests was hardly routine - live coverage throughout the events, multiple heated responses from politicians and other public figures, significant debate over the role played by police. Also consider the fact that coverage was unusually extensive even in the days and weeks prior to the event. It has significance then beyond the fact that it was a protest about Palestine but also as regards questions of civil liberties and politics in Melbourne and Australia.

These protests were compared in multiple sources to the S11 protests which have had an article of similar length on Knowledge (XXG) since 2004. That article mentions the use of pepper spray against protesters, pointing out that at the time this was unheard of and supposedly banned. The use of rubber bullets and other weaponry by Victoria Police against anti-war protesters is similarly unprecedented today and I think another indication of notability. All that is solid melts into air (talk) 10:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

• Keep The article could certainly do with some expansion to provide a more complete picture, but I think it demonstrably has received significant coverage in reliable sources. The fact that the prime minister saw fit to respond certainly makes it stand out from other, more routine protests. --Grnrchst (talk) 11:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: I would not be opposed to a move to Israel–Hamas war protests in the Australia. Similar to Israel–Hamas war protests in the United States. GMH Melbourne (talk) 00:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

There’s an argument for such an article in its own right given the extent of this protest movement - however as mentioned above, the extensive coverage by a range of sources warrants the existence of an article on the Land Forces protests as its own article (and the Land Forces protests weren’t specifically Palestine - though there’s significant crossover). In short - both articles should exist. Geelongite (talk) 13:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Grange Road, Adelaide (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:GEOROAD. Most of the references are simply maps like https://location.sa.gov.au/ . LibStar (talk) 00:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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Psephos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The article unfortunately doesn't meet WP:NCORP or WP:GNG I was unable to find anything in a google search. A few results came back in a Google Scholar search but all the result I could see were onty citations and therefore did not provide significant coverage on the topic. GMH Melbourne (talk) 23:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch 23:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - this non-notable archive of election results, it is mentioned in one source (duke University, seems to be a fragment of ??). In the EL's there is a link to the archive creator's personal blog. Cannot find enough to establish notability per GNG. Netherzone (talk) 00:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Keep this is used as a reference in at least 300 Knowledge (XXG) articles. and are library directories that refer to this source. The sourcing isn't as good as I would like, but my !vote is keep. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

  Psephos is only a marginally reliable source, due to Carr being a subject matter expert. I don't think it being used as a reference on Knowledge (XXG) is a good argument for keep, and neither is the fact that Psephos is in several libraries. Steelkamp (talk) 08:10, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

  I was looking to see if there might be a case that Adam Carr is notable. But all I found was Knowledge (XXG):Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-06-19/Adam_Carr. After further review, there isn't enough here for a keep vote. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable entity on its own, with no reliable sources. The editing spirit (talk) 18:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

• Draftify Let the article incubate in draftspaceEEverest 8848 (talk) 11:10, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Delete per a lack of WP:RS and a failure of WP:GNG. SirMemeGod  22:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Fred Barlow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC and WP:SIGCOV. A player who only played in a single game is not notable, and does not have in-depth enough coverage to pass our notability guidelines. 4meter4 (talk) 15:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Has not been the subject of significant coverage; not suprising as records show only played one game. As suggested, fails WP:SPORTBASIC. Spinifex&Sand (talk) 22:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• A redirect to List of Carlton Football Club players is an obvious alternative to deletion. – Teratix ₵ 08:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Thushara Perera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NACADEMIC. Potentially notable, but fairly low record of achievement. scope_creep 14:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete -- definitely on the right track, but quite a bit TOOSOON -- h-index of 18 for this highly cited field is not yet enough. Generally 11 years out of Ph.D. is a little on the low side for making it beyond the WP:PROF standards without special awards, citations, or notice. 02:21, 17 September 2024 by User:Mscuthbert (Sig Added by scope_creep 08:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC))

Ramneek Wayne (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I don't think G11 should be an option, hence I brought this to AFD. Article doesn't meet WP:GNG. I know that this autobiography may/will be reinstated if declined again and again at AFC. Additionally, it's very promotional. Safari Scribe 06:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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  Hi @SafariScribe I made some addition to the reliable sources and believe its meet the requirement of Knowledge (XXG):GNG Ramie.vee (talk) 06:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

  HI @SafariScribe that person I am writing for a successful entrepreneur and supporting 157 people living with disability in Australia, In upcoming time he is public and political figure. I will highly recommend read the newspaper article or any source, you will get idea what I am trying to say Ramie.vee (talk) 06:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete An orphan article. Overly promotional. Probable WP:AUTOBIO. LibStar (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: WP:NOTRESUME applies. WP:ROTM business person who fails WP:BIO. Article is WP:ADMASQ 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 13:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: as per other comments - additionally, could not find acceptable sources (especially secondary ones). LR.127 (talk) 23:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

  HI sources from news paper arent legit? 175.37.85.217 (talk) 00:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: promotional tone, without adequate sources that are independent of the subject, and not enough criteria to satisfy WP:BIO.Ira Leviton (talk) 07:55, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

  the sources are

  https://www.cbdnews.com.au/bringing-change-to-the-disability-sector/

  https://dandenong.starcommunity.com.au/news/2024-07-29/ndis-help-in-high-demand/attachment/disability_421422_07-jpg/

  https://www.teecareagency.com/blog-posts/a-message-from-our-founder 58.84.184.132 (talk) 13:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Actil railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Despite the name, this wasn't an actual public train station. From the article: "Due to the line being for industrial purposes, it never really carried actual passenger train services apart from some trains that were scheduled for the workers" although this isn't cited to anything. The existing sources are useless; one is a single word mention that doesn't even support the content it is cited to, and the other is a YouTube video. A basic BEFORE search did not turn up anything promising. At best, this could be redirected to Finsbury railway line. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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IT Journalism Awards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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There is no independent WP:SIGCOV for this niche regional industry awards program. All of the coverage is either on the award program's own site, or it's in news outlets touting their own journalists' wins and nominations and thus not independent. A handful of WP:TRADES coverage items as well but that doesn't contribute to notability and thus this subject fails WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

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  I've expanded it a bit today - it does get quite good coverage in mainstream media, has been running for 21 years, has quite a lot of incoming links, and IMO passes GNG now, if it didn't before. Gaming is also another topic which probably receives less coverage in WP than its popularity would suggest (and one I know little about), and these awards are highly prized in that industry. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

  What sources have you added that you think are independent and reliable? They’re still mainstream sources talking about their own wins in the awards (and thus not independent), self published sources (not reliable) or trade publications (not independent). Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at Rod Laver Arena (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Indirect statement of inclusion criteria. mikeblas (talk) 16:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. As suggested, the list as a group is not notable. Fails WP:NLIST. Spinifex&Sand (talk) 22:17, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

List of entertainment events at the Sydney SuperDome (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. Weak statement of inclusion criteria. mikeblas (talk) 16:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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List of entertainment events at Perth Arena (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NLIST overall, as the content of the list is not notable as a group. Seems to fail WP:NOTDB. No explanation of inclusion criteria. mikeblas (talk) 16:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Mark Diamond (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Questionable notability for Australian bureaucrat. Most sources discuss the RTBU rather than Diamond. Insufficient WP:RS to meet WP:ANYBIO. Cabrils (talk) 02:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: Profile is sufficing the WP:BLP and WP:Notability. As per the WRS, here's the link providing his mentions on multiple government official websites as well as on Parliament of New South Wales' official website. Article can be made concise rejecting the poorly sourced information. Here are the links below I have found during research validating his notability.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/rail-unions-given-24-hours-to-call-off-industrial-action-20220901-p5bepf.html

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/06/sydney-train-strikes-union-boss-hopes-federal-intervention-puts-go-slow-on-nsw-government-action

https://www.rtbu.org.au/mark_diamond_appointed_as_new_rtbu_national_secretary

https://www.rtbu.org.au/who_s_who

https://www.actu.org.au/directory/rail-tram-and-bus-union-rtbu-national-office/

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/dominic-perrottet-told-to-call-gladys-berejiklian-as-rail-feud-continues/news-story/12176af725b86627d3612ee8ee0a7586

https://www.rtbu.org.au/national_council_2023_wrap

https://rtbuexpress.com.au/rtbu-owned-training-organisation/

https://www.rtbu.org.au/resignation_of_national_secretary_mark_diamond

https://www.railexpress.com.au/rtbu-appoints-new-national-secretary/

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/compromise-in-the-jobs-summit-confrontation-in-the-foyer-20220901-p5bemu.html

https://www.fullyloaded.com.au/rtbu-names-new-national-secretary/

https://www.busnews.com.au/rtbu-says-federal-budget-a-turning-point-in-public-transport-funding/

https://www.themandarin.com.au/198708-perrottet-and-rtbu-attend-summit-as-industrial-actions-continue/

https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/organisations/registered-orgs/139v-r2022-201.pdf

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/Hansard/Pages/HansardResult.aspx#/docid/HANSARD-1820781676-96367

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/01/dummy-spitting-nsw-government-gives-rail-union-24-hours-to-end-industrial-action

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-21/wallan-train-derailment-union-says-track-awaiting-maintenance/11987230

Tamaraharon (talk) 17:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

rtbu.org.au would be a primary source. LibStar (talk) 03:07, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete I had looked at this article when it was first listed, and found many of the sources identified by @Tamaraharon so this was quick work. Aside from the primary sources, these are mostly just Diamond being quoted in an article which I don't think qualifies for notability. I see one source that qualifies for notability in the whole pile -- the Sydney Morning Herald article, #11 below -- which can be seen as significant and independent coverage from a major news outlet. The Guardian article #16 has a bit of editorial independence but it's really short - basically quoting him and then quoting someone reacting to him.

• - quoting MD only
• - quoting MD only
• - primary
• - primary
• - doesn't mention MD
• - quoting extensively with some editorial independence (but no independent reporting about Diamond)
• - primary
• - primary
• - primary
• - all material about him is from RBTU employee, lacks independence
• - independent, significant, about Diamond
• - same as railexpress.com.au article #10, lacks independence
• - quoting MD only
• - mention only
• - all material about him is from RBTU employee, lacks independence
• - quoting MD, plus very brief coverage
• - quoting MD only

Oblivy (talk) 13:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

I highly doubt your assessment of sources because the pages that you published, you have cited primary sources, even press releases of the same company website. Here's the example Tam Jai Noodle#cite note-10 , Tam Jai Noodle#cite note-11, High Sierra Music Festival#cite note-2, High Sierra Music Festival#cite note-3. In fact, most of the sources in your pages are weakest and lack reliability so i believe your assessment of sources on Mark Diamond page is bias. Tamaraharon (talk) 17:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Keep: Article should be converted to a stub using only independent reliable sources. This justifies WP:Notability. Chris.lee auth (talk) 18:04, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Weak Keep: Primary sources usage does not consent lack of notability. Profile has moderate recognition on gov website of Parliament of New South Wales. Subject has historical relevance.

Rpgea (talk) 22:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Plush's Corner railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable "railway station" on South Australian railway line that closed in 1956. Surely does not meet, and is incapable of meeting, WP:N. Cabrils (talk) 08:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Barossa Valley railway line. Several of the sources actually refer to this as a siding, not a station, and none are more than a few sentences except the last which I question the reliability of as it's just a person's reminisces. Does not appear notable. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Donald MacMillan (rugby union) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No sources, and seems to have no real notability. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 02:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. Known as "Ian" rather than Donald, which may assist your searches. Plenty of coverage on Trove and I've added some of them to the page. Got more results for the typo "Mc"Millan. Jevansen (talk) 23:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you. Was not aware of this. Jevansen (talk) Jevansen (talk) 07:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

British army in the Eureka Rebellion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unnecessary content fork. Content could easily be merged into Eureka Rebellion and List of Eureka Stockade defenders. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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• keep not at all a WP:CFORK. I see almost no overlaps. And we don't merge large articles into huger ones. --Altenmann >talk 17:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Just wanted to note that 860 words of readable prose is hardly a large article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
• Delete unnecessary WP:CFORK and one of many excessive bloated pages about this minor event. Mztourist (talk) 04:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete clearly a CFORK, I don't even see any content that would be worth keeping in a merge. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

The Art of Sound (exhibition) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: further expansion of the article and context was needed. AlphaLemur (talk) 01:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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New FM (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Unsourced since 2010 Golikom (talk) 11:59, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete lack of WP:SIGCOV. Xegma(talk) 12:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Broadcast Operations Group per ATD. Nate • (chatter) 16:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources I added.

Sources:

1. Connell, Tim (30 August 2012). "today's topics - Rock classic makes its sound mark". Newcastle Herald. Newcastle: Fairfax Media. p. 13. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank.
The article notes "It was the very first song played on Newcastle's first commercial FM radio station, NEW-FM. ... The station's founder, Mike Webb, chose Long Way to the Top to put his baby to air on April 14, 1989. The new FM player tore off a huge chunk of the ratings at the expense of 2NX, Newcastle's existing hit music station."
2. Sadlier, Kevin (7 May 1989). "Radio". Television. The Sun-Herald. Sydney: John Fairfax Holdings. p. 116. Retrieved 16 April 2010 – via NewsBank.
The article notes "NEWCASTLE'S newest station, NEW-FM, was officially launched last night with a spectacular pysotechnics/laser/rock show - the largest free entertainment event ever held in the Hunter region, according to NEW's Mike Webb. NEW can be found at 105.3 on the FM band."
3. Sadlier, Kevin (26 November 1989). "FM Stations Eat Away at Ratings". News and Features. The Sun-Herald. Sydney: John Fairfax Holdings. p. 134. Retrieved 17 April 2010 – via NewsBank.
The article notes: "In Newcastle, NEW-FM began broadcasting only last April. In its first ratings survey, NEW achieved a rating of 24.7."
4. Joyce, James (14 May 1999). "Birthday blowout for NEW-FM". News. Newcastle Herald. Newcastle: Newcastle Newspapers Pty Limited. p. 63. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank.
The article notes: "NEW-FM celebrated its 10th birthday last month. ... Instead of dishing out party favours, new owner Bill Caralis cut costs and staff and flicked the switch to night music networked out of his Lismore station. ... When they left in November 1993 to join Triple M in Adelaide, the failure to find a winning replacement spearheaded the ratings nose-dive that paved the way for 2HD's $2.3million buy-out of NEW's mostly local shareholders in 1994. But after five years of Labor control, NEW is still a long way from the glory of its early years under founder Mike Webb."
5. Joyce, James (22 March 1999). "NSW Labor signs off with 2HD". News. Newcastle Herald. Newcastle: Newcastle Newspapers Pty Limited. p. 12. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank.
The article notes: "THE NSW Labor Party and Labor Council have handed control of radio stations 2HD and NEW-FM to regional radio mogul Bill Caralis a week before the State election. The outgoing chairman of the Sandgate-based broadcasters, John Price, said Friday's official change of ownership would 'enable the NSW ALP to concentrate on better serving the Hunter community'. The sale price is believed to have been $12.5million"
6. Day, Mark (10 February 2000). "Mystery mogul of radio". News. The Australian. Sydney: News Limited. p. M12. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank.
The article notes: "He has spent an estimated $40 million in the past 12 months on additional licences and a state-of-the-art broadcast centre, and is the force behind a shake-up of commercial radio. So, asks Mark Day, who is Bill Caralis? ... While Caralis's Broadcast Operations Pty Ltd is a private company, he has every right to tell us all to go to hell. ... He stunned the radio industry last year when he bought two Newcastle stations -- NEW FM and 2HD -- from the NSW Labor Council for more than $11 million, double the 'Bill will need to have deep pockets' value ascribed to them less than a year earlier."

There is sufficient coverage in multiple reliable sources to allow the subject to pass the general notability guideline, requiring "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". --Yours sincerely, Bas (or TechGeek105) (talk to me) 01:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

• Keep per above. I would likely have said much the same thing as an extensive user of NewsBank. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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2028 Northern Territory general election (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Article only has one source, and it does not say anything about the election in 2028. CycloneYoris 03:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Thought about a redirect but I really couldn't find a suitable target. Esolo5002 (talk) 04:01, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

  redirect to Northern Territory Legislative Assembly maybe? otherwise yeah delete Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 22:23, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:10, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

• Move to Next Northern Territory general election. No point in deleting the page when it will only need to be remade again. Viatori (talk) 08:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

  Deleting an article does not prevent it from being recreated when more sources emerge. Having to be remade again is a given and is not a reason against deletion. Esolo5002 (talk) 06:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

• Move to Next Northern Territory general election or keep, for the same reasons as Viatori. --SHB2000 (talk) 00:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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2016 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am bundle-nominating all league season pages of the VFL Women's competition for deletion. This bundle incorporates eight articles.

On balance, these articles fail WP:GNG, and this competition does not garner the level of coverage or references to justify having season-by-season articles. Existing references across all nine articles are almost exclusively non-independent sources (from the league's website, clubs' websites and scores databases), occasionally with a brief WP:ROUTINE article about the grand final result; in particular, although the recent articles have healthy-looking reference counts, it's largely padded by short non-independent, routine articles from club websites which fill out the tables of coaches, captains and best-and-fairest winners. WP:BEFORE searches for "VFL Women's" and "VFL Women's season", Google-filtered for news and excluding afl.com.au results, and the results are a very thin collection of local newspaper clippings which are closer to human interest stories than sports WP:SIGCOV.

I see no valid alternative to deletion, and that all content worth saving is already found on VFL Women's and List of VFL Women's premiers.

I am also nominating the following related pages under the bundle:

2017 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2018 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2019 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2021 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2022 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2023 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2024 VFL Women's season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Aspirex (talk) 22:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Speedy keep: Competition receives WP:SIGCOV from what is left of the News Corporation legacy media, both at the statewide and local level. ProQuest has approx 400 keyword filtered references (there was 804 on my first pass through) for "VFL women" for the 2016 season alone, with spikes around the Grand Final and VFL/W Awards; across News, Fairfax/Nine and other Australian news sources. I find this AfD to be WP:POINTY and disingenuous. Merging these forks back into VFL Women's would result in an unweildy mess of an article. If the state-level competition of a women's Australian football competition does not warrant the little amount of referenced information currently present, are we WP:BUILDWP with useful encyclopedic content for future readers? Storm machine (talk) 11:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment how exactly is this a Speedy Keep 2c (making nominations of the same page with the same arguments immediately after they were strongly rejected in a recently closed deletion discussion)? Aspirex (talk) 22:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

    the "2c" reference in my edit description was a shortening of my regular "2¢ plus GST" apologies for the confusion at your end. Storm machine (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

    Cool, thanks. Aspirex (talk) 23:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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Keep per @Storm machine's argument. I would be concerned if an article with 40+ references can be thrown away as part of a bulk AfD without any attempt from the nominator to improve it further. What is the end goal here? Gibbsy 03:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

My point is the following: yes, 2023 VFL Women's season has 43 references (I assume that's the one you're referring specifically to); 37 of them are statements from club websites which serve to fill out this table of the names of captains and coaches, and this table of best and fairest winners. Every Australian rules football season from the lowest suburban/country level to the highest professional level could be written to at least this standard using a mix of club website references and WP:LOCAL newspapers, but that doesn't make them notable. What I can't find despite looking is genuine independent WP:SIGCOV of the VFL Women's which elevates this league to the point that it should have individual season articles. This is not a question of improvement – any article can be improved – it's a question of assessing the body of available references and reaching a determination of notability or lack thereof. My end goal is that this league be treated like all other low-coverage leagues in the Australian rules football Wikiproject: a main article with a history section, a list of premiers/grand finals, a list of B&Fs, and club-by-club information split out among the individual club pages. Aspirex (talk) 23:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Questions then: where are you stopping? Why do the VFL/SANFL/WAFL season articles exist in their current forms? Have any of those competitions had WP:SIGCOV to your standards since their heydays? Or has coverage retreated to the margins? If this is your baseline, then how does any sports non-top level competition fit into your ideal? Shall we inform the editors who maintain the AIHL, Hockey One, or Queensland and NSW Cup rugby league season articles of impending AfD?

The VFLW/SANFLW/WAFLW competitions easily pass WP:GNG and maintain enough coverage from what's left of the legacy media and enthusiast press to justify the level of content present to have season articles the same way that their men's equivalents do. Storm machine (talk) 10:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Can you link some references? As I said in the nomination, my BEFORE searches have not yielded anything that looks like independent SIGCOV. I want to know what references you're looking at to draw your conclusion (and I'm sure the closer would want to see them as well). Aspirex (talk) 21:58, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Currently have nine non-AFL/club references for the 2024 season article, which given the amount of content compares rather favourably to say 2024 Carlton Football Club season to pick an article at random. Storm machine (talk) 02:22, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Half of those nine are routine match reports on the grand final. A couple are routine reports on NSW teams playing games against VFLW teams. Cherny's article is the only one which is genuine SIGCOV, but it is a general article about AFLW and VFLW pathways - it offers scant coverage of its VFLW season. Aspirex (talk) 03:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Go nuts and add more then: , , Storm machine (talk) 03:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

2017 TAC Cup Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am bundle-nominating all league season pages of the Talent League Girls competition for deletion. This bundle incorporates the six articles listed below.

On balance, these articles fail WP:GNG. This competition does not garner the level of coverage or references about its seasons and results to justify having season-by-season articles. I include the italicised caveat because, as this is the main underage recruitment competition in Victoria, the league's players and structure do receive some non-routine individual coverage, as any WP:BEFORE search will attest; but this coverage is mostly focussed on the league's function as an under-aged talent pathway. The seasons themselves (i.e. who won/lost, grand finalists, etc.) receive only passing WP:ROUTINE coverage. Existing references in all six articles are sparse, and either come from databases or non-indepenent sources.

I see no valid alternative to deletion, and that all content worth saving is already found on the main Talent League Girls page.

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all part of the same bundle of seasons:

2018 TAC Cup Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2019 NAB League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2021 NAB League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2022 NAB League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2023 Talent League Girls season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Aspirex (talk) 22:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment per my comment at Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/1993 TAC Cup season (similar competition for men's football) there's a strong apparent case for deletion here. – Teratix ₵ 02:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete The important (and, crucuially, sourced) information can be folded up into the main article. There isn't enough here apart from ROUTINE coverage to meet GNG. Black Kite (talk) 17:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

1993 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I am bundle-nominating all league season pages of the Talent League competition for deletion. This bundle incorporates the 25 articles listed below.

On balance, these articles fail WP:GNG. This competition does not garner the level of coverage or references about its seasons and results to justify having season-by-season articles. I include the italicised caveat because, as this is the main underage recruitment competition in Victoria, the league's players and structure do receive a decent amount of non-routine individual coverage, as a WP:BEFORE search will attest; but this coverage is all primarily focussed on the league's function as an under-aged talent pathway. The seasons themselves (i.e. who won/lost, grand finalists, etc.) receive only passing WP:ROUTINE coverage. I note also that 19 of the 25 articles (those from 2000–2018) are currently based entirely on a single database reference, and those which aren't are almost entirely from non-independent sources. I see no valid alternative to deletion and that all content worth saving is already found on the main Talent League page.

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all part of the same bundle:

2000 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2001 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2002 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2003 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2004 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2005 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2006 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2007 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2008 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2009 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2010 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2011 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2012 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2013 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2014 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2015 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2016 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2017 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2018 TAC Cup season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2019 NAB League Boys season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2020 NAB League season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2021 NAB League Boys season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

2022 NAB League Boys season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Aspirex (talk) 22:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Australia. Spiderone 23:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. TarnishedPath 08:07, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

• Comment sorry, but that's way too much for me to work through to see if it needs deletion or not. WP:TRAINWRECK. Govvy (talk) 09:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Govvy: TRAINWRECK is a term for AfDs that cover many topics, but fail because the topics are too dissimilar – some are notable, others aren't. But surely any given TAC Cup season will be about as notable as the next? What makes you think TRAINWRECK applies here? – Teratix ₵ 02:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment it is possible that I did not make clear enough that these pages are all different seasons of the same competition with different sponsored names. Aspirex (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
    • Comment @Aspirex and Teratix: Because on my first look, I assumed the AfD was for two different leagues. I didn't say don't delete, I just felt it was too much on one AfD. Maybe splitting between two AfDs might have been easier to manage for some people such as myself. Govvy (talk) 19:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
• Comment there is a strong case for deletion on the face of it – I would be surprised if enough sources exist for individual seasons of a state-level underage development competition. The point Aspirex makes about TAC Cup coverage mainly focusing on individual players or general aspects of competition structure, not specific results, rings true to me. – Teratix ₵ 02:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
• User:Aspirex, this AFD is not formatted correctly for a bundled nomination. You can't just write down a list of linked articles and consider them to be included in this nomination, our closing tool, XFDcloser will not recognize them as nominated articles. Please review the instructions at WP:AFD for nominating multiple articles and format this nomination correctly. No matter how this discussion is closed, this needs to happen. Thank you. Liz 05:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
  • Liz (talk · contribs) Thanks. Did this edit fix it or have I still missed something? Aspirex (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Aspirex, everything looks good. Liz 23:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Greg Schiemer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Last AfD was no consensus. Renominating as per previous statement: Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Most of the supplied sources are not WP:SIGCOV about him LibStar (talk) 23:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Australia. LibStar (talk) 23:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Delete. Links appear when you do a basic Google search. However as per nominator, I also think those may not meet WP:SIGCOV criteria. Prof.PMarini (talk) 00:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already at AFD before so Soft Deletion is not an option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz 20:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

• Keep I think some of the sources given in the article can count as SIGCOV, and as long as you have some sources that are SIGCOV, that many of the sources are just trivial mentions make no difference to the subject's notability. I can also see his works being mentioned in books and journals - , while those may not be considered in-depth discussions of his works (but not quite trivial either), they do show that he is known enough to be considered someone noteworthy. Hzh (talk) 22:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
• Keep honestly, I don't see a big problem with the article. It seems to be a musical artist. It maintains reliable sources reasonably concise, unlike other articles that do not have it and is more verifiable. On the other hand, the content, at least in its current form, does not seem to me to be bad enough to remain on Knowledge (XXG), perhaps that is precisely what gives it a more encyclopedic tone. --Alon9393 (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz 23:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Weak Keep This one is definitely boarder line and could go either way. I think there are just enough RS references to justify keeping the article, but would not object if there was a consensus among editors to delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 06:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. I see this closing as a No consensus but as I closed the first AFD, I'll let another admin handle this one.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz 21:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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