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197:"Alkali flats are known by this name in some parts of Mexico and the western United States", but not even Sth America. Since, as the article says, Playa means beach for the Spanish-speaking world, & the European English-speaking one, a regional US term seems hardly justifiable as the article title. The only issue is whether there is an overall term for salt flats & alkali flats. But that's not an issue for the category, which only covers the salt ones. 3439:, to create all maintenance categories a few hours before the first place on the globe enters the new month. The proposed rename will allow to add Cfd there as well. An additional minor benefit of that page is that you can see right away if a category was created prematurely, and then delete it, to be able to track templates that are incorrectly dated with next month's dates. Perhaps these arguments will sway you to support the rename? 93:
is correct in saying that we also need a category for alkali covered lands. In my opinion we also need a category for dry lakes. So I don't view this the end of this but as the beginning of some cleanup as the contents in these categories are better classified by adding more categories. That work is
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seems like a useful enough goal to make this worthwhile, though I hate the loss of conciseness. Long category names clutter up the page (although in this case it effects only those like me who use show hidden categories), and I would support a group nomination to change all other monthly maintenance
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only followed the format I mentioned 4–3; and other related comments. Whatever, though—it doesn't matter. The easiest way to answer your direct question is that the proposal follows (what I believe is) the most common naming pattern for these categories, which is " politicians", where "" matches the
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Was the sarcasm necessary? I was just trying to find out which ones you were referring to so I could look at them. As I said, I think I've adopted the most common naming format for politicians of a particular party. The Moldovan one you cite seems to be a combination of party and political position,
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Many of the subcategories refer to competitions rather than leagues as there is no "upper" defunct competitions category. I see no need to create categories for both defunct leagues and competitions (e.g. cups/series/finals etc). The broader term "competitions" would better encompasses the category
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I hadn't intended any sarcasm. You haven't adopted the most common naming format for politicians of a particular party. There are many alternatives in all the sub-categories within the parent category I have directed you to, and none of them appear to be more common that any other. It's very evenly
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which match the form I proposed. On my end I have little + signs next to all the categories and if I click them it shows all the sub-categories. If you click it next to the "Moldovan politicians" category you get quite a few, "Liberal Democratic Party of Moldova MPs", for example, and that was the
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Extremely redundant and unnecessary. In addition, it has been created to include only notable people (according to the creator), which is laughable because he adds it only to articles of people he considers notable personalities (both categories contain only a few names), even though they are not.
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I'm not (trying to) argu-(ing)-(e), I'm just trying to make sense of what you are saying, because it contradicts what I see. I think we should conform to the usual standard, and I can't see evidence that indicates the standard for politicians by party is anything other than what I have suggested.
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Almost all maintenance categories are hidden, and still they recieve normal names. Many of them have been discussed on Cfd at one time or the other, and your argument has not been brought forth before, to my (limited) knowledge. In any case, consensus seems to be that even hidden maintenance
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Please note that I haven't !voted yet. I'm trying to understand the reasons for Kbdank71's objections, because and although we often disagree, Kbdank71 usually has a good reason for taking a particular view at CfD. However I don't a good reason here, and wonder have I missed something.
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the politicians-by-party categories appear to use the name format of " politicians", where "" is named after the WP article for that party. I'm sure there are other forms used if they are all looked through, but I thought adopting the most commonly-used form would be most sensible.
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Please tell me what I am missing. Perhaps you are misinterpreting something. This would explain why you can see no discernible pattern across all categories, because it's clearly present from what I can observe. I'm focussing, of course, on categories for politicians
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And what is the nominator on about saying that the creator, me as it turns out, adds only those who he (me) considers notable. I have never said this and checking the pages in question confirms this. In fact, it and similar pages are underpopulated, that s all.
1243:, because all the sub-categories are for council elections. Since there are no elected regional councils in England, the only other class of England-only election is parliamentary by-elections ... and those aren't numerous enough to need sub-categorising below 607:-- very sensible, I am so used to "TEI" in the intended meaning that I haven't noticed it leads to a disamb page. And it may even be better to have the full name in the category list, now that I think of it. My apologies for giving you guys extra work on this. 2824:. I feel this is The Right Thing To Do, and think that the previous nomination failed largely because of a personal vendetta against me by one of the participants in that discussion who is now no longer active on Knowledge (XXG). Arguments for rename are: 2955:. These are hidden administrative categories, for use by people working CFD's (and by CFD I mean Categories for discussion; one click to the category itself will clear up any possible ambiguity for anyone else). Renaming is not necessary. -- 4006:
to allow for organization by century and to correspond to a rather well-defined structure by country. Arguments about current contents being "laughable" are more appropriately addressed by populating the category rather than by deleting it.
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WP name for the party; your proposal does not follow this pattern, obviously. I haven't said your suggestion is wrong, I just prefer a different format. If you acknowledge the same I think the issue is resolved to my satisfaction.
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and perhaps split to create a sibling competitions category. Calling a league a "competition" makes no sense in U.S. English; the former is an organization which arranges competitions, the latter are discrete events.-
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Note that owing to the ambiguity of the current category names, many of these categories contain articles on other political issues in the respective areas, such as parliamemtray constituencies, by-elections and
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as suggested by Peterkingiron. The categories seem to be consistently called "English local elections" although the category for each individual authority is called e.g. "Arun council elections". The phrase
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first I clicked at random. There are plenty more which shows there is no clear standard for this sort of thing. Does that help any better, or would a complete list of all such categories be required?
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The "National League" is an organized group of teams that compete with one another. The "World Series" is a competition that decides a winner amongst competitors. They are not the same things.
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the December and January ones as empty categories created too early. No reason to be creating these cats more than a few days before their anticipated use. Neutral on the rename.
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Yes, they are generally populated by the templates. However some editors have added the category manually. When manually added, it is usually not listed for discussion and the
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article that two separate categories are required: 'Salt flats' for salt covered lands and 'playas' for alkalai covered lands. In any case, a geogolist should sort this out.
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per nom. This certainly is not defining, and would therefore constitute overcategorization in my opinion. No opinion on the Sonic ones; don't know enough about that one.
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If they are being populated manually, then reasonably terse names would assist greatly ... but if not, then what damage is done by naming them more verbosely named?
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per nom. The three deletes organize songs for which the category is not a defining characteristic. The Sonic ctageory is defining and the rename is appropriate.
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per Kbdank71. The guidance to expand abbreviations can be ignored if you ask me, the primary architect of that particular line as it relates to categories.
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standard though, since I'm finding categories which deviate. "Mexican politicians by party", which I mention hoping we can maintain the spirit of BEANS.
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is in common use. Incidentally BrownHairedGirl, there is one English regional 'council', the London Assembly, and its elections should be covered by
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As I said before above, and has been said elsewhere by others who are even more knowledgable in the technical aspects, if renamed we can start using
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It's of course not 1:60 but 4:1427 and of course the ratio is not important it is really 1427-4 that measures the extra cost of going to YYYY MM.
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That argument has been refuted already, see above. Furthermore, since when can guidelines be ignored? And then there were three more arguments.
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as an appropriate parent for its national categories and as an aid to navigation. Any entries in here should be distributed by nation.
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What are the "similar cats" that this naming format would match? As far as I can tell, I have adopted the most commonly-used format.
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needs to be cleaned up since it is not complete. So you are probably correct to say that it is only populated by the templates.
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The vast majority of entries are for defunct leagues. Any defunct competitions should be split off into an appropriate category.
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so that there is no need to pipe these to sort correctly. If other categories follow the lead here so much the better.
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is smart enough to insert the correct sort order. It extracts the necessary information from the pagename.
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do not rename. Proposed target category could be manually created and populated as a separate category.
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to more clearly describe the contents of the categories and to match other corresponding categories.
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Seems the wrong way round to me. Actually "Thurrock politics" might be more meaningful than either.
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split, as we can see by glancing at the Fiji example you give which gives a split of four to three.
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Approaching this issue logically, one would adjust the 1 to the 60. But yes, consistency need be.
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Whether that involves parentheses in the name or not seems to me to be rather beside the point.
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per nominator. This is the format of the parent and all other subcategories. Speedy #4.
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Second time I nominate this type of category. The previous nomination can be found on
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in this case. Nominating just certain members and leaving tree is counterproductive
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government (rather than national govt), and are all under the hierarchy starting at
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might mean anything from "Categories for deletion", which is a likely mistake, to "
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The nominator needs to tag the two pages too. And why nominate these two and not
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I don't understand what it is you don't understand. Perhaps you could clarify why
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all per nom. This is a necessary follow up to the previous decision on Leeds.
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Sorry, I'm not seeing it. It looks like 7–0 to me. They all use " politicians":
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per nom. I see someone is kindly working on dispersing them, I forget who.
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Forget I spoke. The guidance has changed since the last time I checked.
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Gravy. I understand your system now. I still don't see it being
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I don't understand why you said the by-party subcategories in
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doesn't, and then perhaps we'll make more sense of it all.
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Isn't there a limit to how many times this can be done?
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for those precise reasons, and to move away from jargon.
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I can support that - better than my suggestion, in fact.
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Hm, not particularly. I was wondering what "them" was.
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See the 2840:guideline to avoid abbreviations 2117:per nom and earlier discussion. 2034:Category:Government in Wakefield 1980:Category:Government in Lancaster 1935:Category:Government in Blackpool 1926:Category:Government in Blackburn 1890:Category:Government in Stockport 1678:per nominator and #4, as below. 988:Soqosoqo ni Vakavulewa ni Taukei 961:National Federation Party (Fiji) 249:. I left a request for help at 4333:Empty to nat cats, & Delete 3985:here. This has been disscussed 3981:per recent and consistent past 3075:automatically by the templates 2043:Category:Government in Kirklees 2016:Category:Government in Bradford 1971:Category:Government in Hyndburn 1908:Category:Government in Trafford 1899:Category:Government in Tameside 1872:Category:Government in Rochdale 1827:Category:Government in Weymouth 1429:Category:Defunct sports leagues 1388:Category:Defunct sports leagues 1251:category may be in each case). 1010:Category:Politicians by country 979:Soqosoqo Duavata ni Lewenivanua 888:Category:Politicians by country 861:Category:Politicians by country 1998:Category:Government in Preston 1953:Category:Government in Chorley 1944:Category:Government in Burnley 1881:Category:Government in Salford 1636:Category:Politics of Salisbury 1632:Category:Politics in Salisbury 1590:Category:Politics in Salisbury 970:Party of National Unity (Fiji) 1: 4526:14:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC) 4510:02:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC) 4492:01:16, 19 November 2009 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461: 444: 434: 428: 414: 400: 388: 373: 370: 356: 353: 332: 329: 305: 284: 267: 246: 231:Neutral note 230: 216: 190: 178: 167: 145: 139: 133: 127: 123: 120: 108: 86: 83: 69: 66: 3979:Strong Keep 3205:..._YYYY-mm 3165:Vegaswikian 3138:Vegaswikian 2838:As per the 1519:76.66.197.2 1338:Sussexonian 1309:76.66.197.2 1288:76.66.197.2 255:Vegaswikian 96:Vegaswikian 55:November 19 43:November 20 38:November 18 4474:Grammar. — 4304:Biruitorul 4159:Od Mishehu 4076:Od Mishehu 3503:Od Mishehu 3366:Farmbrough 3334:HairedGirl 3288:HairedGirl 3241:Farmbrough 3134:nomination 3115:HairedGirl 3058:Farmbrough 3008:HairedGirl 2337:HairedGirl 2313:Farmbrough 2287:HairedGirl 2140:Farmbrough 2115:Rename all 2095:HairedGirl 2061:CFD Nov 16 1655:HairedGirl 1256:HairedGirl 431:per nom. 381:Od Mishehu 285:Rename to 4518:Debresser 4320:Debresser 4178:Debresser 4156:עוד מישהו 4073:עוד מישהו 3991:August 14 3983:consensus 3966:Mayumashu 3944:Mayumashu 3926:Mayumashu 3897:Debresser 3785:keep both 3704:Debresser 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Categories for discussion
Log
November 18
November 20
deletion review
Hmains
Vegaswikian
talk
22:43, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Category:Salt pans
Category:Salt flats
salt pan
salt flat
playa
takyr
>t
00:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
playa
Category:Playas
Grutness
wha?
00:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Playa
Johnbod
talk
04:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Grutness
wha?
22:39, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_May_17#Category:Salt_pans

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