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gives some numbers on the Union Army dead from various causes. 110,070 people were either killed in action or received mortal wounds and died due to their injuries. 199,790 people died due to various diseases, though not all of these diseases were war-related. 24,866 people died in Confederate prison
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That's one way to interpret it. But I dunno, it's pretty easy to just say that "killed in the American Civil War" includes people who were killed as a result of anything closely related to the war, so I'm still not convinced that we need the distinction. The target category is not phrased "killed in
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There is a persistent pattern in this nominator's proposals of proposing mergers to only one parent, which has the effect of removing articles from one category tree. In this case, the nom's proposals would remove all these sportspeople from the crucial category, which is that for the sport in which
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I don't disagree with deletion—but isn't that the point of family categories—to group people together who are part of the same family regardless of their surname? It's pretty common for women especially to change their surname during their lives, but they generally remain part of the same family
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Williams is a pretty common surname, and I doubt that this particular family would be the primary meaning. In the absence of an article about this family that we could match the category name to, I suggest disambiguating with a country of origin.
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If all of the articles in the perm category and its subcategories were considered stubs, it would not be enough for half of the required article count for starting a stub category. Propose deleting category and upmerging template to
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rather than delete: yes, they are the same thing. I would have thought it ought to be limited to deaths caused by the war, excluding (for example) an old woman who died in her bed in Maine, without hearing a shot fired in anger.
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Someone has cleaned up the Maine church stub category. Only 4 articles, and I can find no other stubs. The religious building category only adds two more articles. Propose deleting these two categories. Upmerge template
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camps. 9,058 people died due to military-related accidents or drowning. 15,741 people died due to uncertain or unknown causes. Of the 359,528 dead of the Union Army, more than a half were not actually killed in combat.
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The name of the category as it currently stands could imply that this should include other casualties of the war, which were not actually killed by anyone. Our article on the
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it had 64 stubs), it's now too small to keep. The religious building and structure category was never really large enough to keep without the church category.
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could include horses or whatnot, but I think that the nom makes sense as we don't have this distinction for the numerous other conflicts.
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just being seven examples, we don't subcategorize sportspeople from Foo town/city by the type of athletes they are.
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The families appear to be organized in a hierarchy by nation. This helps avoid potential name-clashes.
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who could clearly be collected together into a category (of futility similar to the one in question).
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no problem – we can easily recreate once there's more, and more specific, content. Regards,
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Or, delete - this is merely a father + 2 daughters, neither of whom is named Williams.
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is probably correct. Next are there any articles that go directly into this category?
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Category:Northeastern United States religious building and structure stubs
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Doesn't contain a single article, just the non-historical subcategory
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merge. The articles are otherwise in appropriate subcategories of
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The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion.
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over these categories need to be merged to both parents:
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combat" and doesn't need to be limited in that way.
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Index

Knowledge:Categories for discussion
Log
July 13
July 15
talk page
deletion review
Category:English golfers
Category:English swimmers
Category:English cyclists
Good Ol’factory
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Category:Golfers from Leeds
Category:Sportspeople from Leeds
Category:Swimmers from Leeds
Category:Sportspeople from Leeds
Category:Cyclists from Leeds
Category:Sportspeople from Leeds







...William
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