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Knowledge (XXG). As a practical matter, any conlang that has been sufficiently discussed to make such an article will tend to be significant, interesting and/or have artistic merit, and any conlang worth including will acquire such commentary eventually, at which point it can be added to Knowledge (XXG).
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I posted earlier saying I oppose the "with an ISBN" criterion entirely because it would exclude older professionally published books and include newer vanity press books. Your sales criteria are an improvement, but I think it would be better still to allow in books with lower sales rank if they they
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A conlang should be included if and only if it can be the subject of an informative, NPOV, well-sourced article that includes opinions and facts gleaned from verifiable sources other than the creator's own site, provided that the article does not stray into
Original Research. This is essentially a
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For the "books about a language" criterion, there should also be requirement of either a) having an Amazon book sales rank number lower than 500,000, or b) verifiable evidence of sales of more than 100 copies. Anyone can buy an ISBN number. I personally know of one book with sales of less than 50
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are written by someone not involved with the language's creation. Being able to reference independent writing about the language by someone other than its creator means the language is verifiable and we can write an article without doing original resarch. --
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Let's say "...other than the writings of the language's creator(s)". That will make it general enough, not tied to conlangs by a single author published only on the web. --
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This is certainly a great feat and an interesting criterion, but it shouldn't be a cut off point, as most (and I do mean most) natural languages will fail this criterion.
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