Knowledge (XXG)

:Deletion review/Log/2011 August 10 - Knowledge (XXG)

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1677:. As I read this user's talk page prior to leaving notice, I saw indications that the user has a habit of deleting pages marked as SD without first checking the talk page to see if any other users are doing anything or not. I left a message, and the reply showed unconcern that content useful to the article was deleted out of hand. The reason this is important to me should be simple: no, I do not have the time to rewrite all of what I wrote just because someone chose to ignore it before deleting it. BTW, useful references and file links were also found in the old article and are not in the new article. 413:
improved and is not the same article anymore, so the AfD is simply no longer valid. An AfD that results in a merge because the article is short and poor is self-evidently not valid for an expanded article. Sure, the article still is in need of much improvement, but that can't happen if it's deleted. (ps, the claim that "It does not appear to have changed much in the meantime" is patently false, showing that the IP in question hasn't even looked at the article before he deletes it. It's plain vandalism, nothing else.) --
1229:. There is nothing stopping you from writing an article on this subject provided you include evidence that it does pass the notability guideline (which usually consists of references to significant coverage in third-party reliable sources). Being a registered company and getting 200,000 unique visitors a month doesn't demonstrate notability however. Getting content distributed through other media 1210:). As of May 2011, Google Analytics tracking places average monthly readership at 200,000 uniques per month. Numerous exclusive interviews, event write-ups and news articles have been featured on other video game websites. If any further information is required, please let me know. Many thanks, Adam Riley 1379:
that is normally demonstrated by those parties (specifically parties which are reliable on such matters) deciding to provide coverage directly about the subject. As such the guidelines won't include very specific things like this. Though I'd read what DGG says below for a slightly different take on this. --
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page so that I can edit it so that moderators/admin/etc here can check it? If not, would someone please give me the permission to start a new page from scratch using information and data that hopefully justifies the notability of the website and gives sufficient reasoning for a page to exist here on
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The usual argument for cases like this is that if reliable sources covering the industry refer to cubed's articles as good source material, then cubed is notable. I suppose this does follow from the spirit of WP:GNG, if not the letter. I think we've sometimes accepted such arguments if there are more
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Thank you for the information. I understand the need to prevent a Knowledge (XXG) page from becoming what would essentially be one big advertisement. I will do a bit of digging to find out some links. For reference, though, would being featured in a newspaper such as the Metro count as an example?
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This BLP was deleted via AfD as unsourced, and we now have a draft that meets the relevant notability guideline. That much is uncontested. Only the AfD closer, Jayig, objects to the recreation on the grounds that the draft is not fully sourced. That is a valid concern, but can be remedied by removing
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requires "significant coverage" in multiple reliable sources. A userfication will give Jesusraz the opportunity to find reliable sources and bring the userspace draft up to Knowledge (XXG)'s verifiability and notability standards. Jesusraz, when you have finished working on the article, please bring
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It was a case of a Japanese developer approaching Cubed3/CubedĀ³ for opinions on a new game, then incorporating those ideas into the final game. Personally I feel that's quite a massive achievement, and something not many other websites can claim to have been involved with, but if you need something
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The article did undergo a merge in 2010, but it was merged with Jacque Fresco, which was deemde more relevant. And since the Jacque Fresco article consisted mostly about text about the Venus Project, Jaque Fresco was in fact merge into The Venus Project. The article has also been vastly expanded and
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Just a comment. Yes, what I posted was all from memory; that's why it was posted to the talk page and not to the article itself. AFAIK, that's what the talk page is for, to foster collaboration. Anything else amounts to you looking at me as if all the work involved is solely my responsibility.
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I appreciate the consideration. I do not have the original Knowledge (XXG) page template for CubedĀ³ / Cubed3, but I can change the structure of it and include all information you feel relevant. Does the page need to be created again from scratch and then checked by yourselves, or will the original
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Again that isn't covering cubed directly and in any level of detail it's passing mentions. Read the guidelines, you'll find they try and make notability more objective than subjective, so tend to require parties outside wikipedia editors like you and me determining that the subject is important and
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The problem with both of those is that they are just mentions or references to things which have appeared on it. So they don't really show people are interested in cubed, they show they are interested in subject which cubed has covered, if you can see the difference. What's needed are source about
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I believe I'm looking for a history-only undeletion, but correct me if I'm wrong. This page was marked for SD due to promotional spam, deleted, then recreated in a typical radio station stub format without the spam. It's my opinion that the end result could have been achieved without SD. More
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Looking at the AfD, and the original article, I think the better choice would have been to merge it to Jacque Fresco. It's Fresco's project; the film, was about the project. In any case, the article about the film needs a rewrite to remove promotionalism--describing the content is one thing,
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Well, I've done a fair bit of reading around now and I must admit that I don't fully understand why Nathan2055 referred you to DRV. Personally I would have seen your submission to AfC as perfectly acceptable. Perhaps someone else looking at it with fresh eyes will be able to enlighten
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My livelihood is pretty far removed from this, and I like to eat and have a roof over my head. If I didn't have to worry about that, I would probably have plenty of time to do actual work on articles rather than take a shortcut by offering suggestions to others who may be interested.
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than occasional mentions--it's well established that being used once as a source does not establish notability. Myself, I'm uncertain of actual notability, but I think there's enough above to justify re-creation and another AfD. The AfD is the better place for the argument.
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using inline citations". As a simple example, the article claims her "Career winnings" are $ 26,074 - but there's no citation for this. On top of that, some of the stuff that he was actually forced to cite (after multiple requests) does not actually match the sources cited.
704:. I will not nominate the page for deletion as there is likely sufficient coverage in reliable sources that have yet to be added to the article. If, after a sufficient period of time, no third-party sources are added, another editor might decide to nominate it for deletion. 429:
The current version ceased to be a redirect in 2009, and this means that it's not appropriate for DRV to enforce a 2008 AfD in 2011. But if you wish to renominate the article at AfD, then I don't see any obstacle to this. Failing that you will need to seek talk page
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What we often do in this situation is to restore the page as a subpage in your user space so you can fix it up, and then ask any of the regulars here or any admin or for that matter experienced user to check it and move it back into article space if its OK.
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should exist as separate from the article into which it was merged. Editors at the article seem content to argue that because the discussion was 3 years ago, we should not keep it merged even though it doesn't appear that much has changed in the meantime.
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Notability, Recentism, Lack of Reliable Sources I think this page should be deleted. Most of the page is a reference to the Yankees and IMO there aren't enough reliable sources to support the questionable notability of this page to exist.
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important to me, however; I responded to a talk page request for information of the radio station's history and provided a rather extensive outline of the station's history, only to see it deleted about an hour or two later by
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Personally, I find those two links to be noteworthy because of the way that the refer to the site, indicating some sort of respectability, but more sources that cover and discuss it specifically are nevertheless required (see
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if he or she deems that consensus is to move to mainspace. This will allow users to find more sources and assess whether there are sufficient sources to establish notability. If there are not enough sources to pass
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stated, if I can show that the information that Cubed3/CubedĀ³ provides is sourced on a variety of other notable places, then hopefully the admin and editors here will consider keeping the page.
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If a new AfD is created, I further request that the closing admin link in the DRV close to the newly created AfD so that users can conveniently access the discussion from the DRV log.
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exactly per Cunard who seems to have hit all relevant issues. Note: I'm taking it on faith that the cited source is reliable and says what is claimed (I only speak English).
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I found another link verifying the Cubed3 link with the idea of PANG: Magical Michael by Japanese developer Mitchell Corporation, and how the CEO actually contacted Cubed3:
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per the nominator's request. When the closing admin starts a new AfD on behalf of Arnabdas, I ask him or her to provide a link in the DRV close to the fresh AfD nomination.
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else from me, please let me know. I'll try to dig out more if I can. I appreciate your patience, since you must get so many requests like this all the time!
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Please remove the infobox and the other information per the allegation of the misrepresentation of sources and the BLP and V concerns Jayjg mentions below.
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This article was deleted on 24 March 2010 because the subject in question did not met at the time at least one of the notability criteria found here:
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That would be fantastic. Thank you very much! Will I receive some sort of email notification, or should I just keep checking back here?
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Would Cubed3 being involved in the idea process of a game's development count? Here's something actually on Knowledge (XXG) already:
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I see spam-free versions in the article history that could have been restored. Reaper Eternal, why did you reject this option?ā€”
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the unsourced content. It does not therefore prevent the restoration of the article in the form of the current draft. ā€“
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I think you meant to start a new AFD, not review the old one, which was closed as no consensus a couple years ago.
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Thank you for this, Cunard. Whenever this gets transferred to my userspace I will start to edit as required. As
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You claimed to provide a large history of the station, but it was solely from your memory, which is not a
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I would think that once that's done, there would be no obstacle to this review being speedily closed.ā€”
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Knowledge (XXG), rather than it coming across as an advertisement? Many thanks for your time, Adam.
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Would you accept that in the circumstances, the history should, at least selectively, be restored?ā€”
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be, depending on what that other medium is, but I doubt other video game websites will qualify.
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Meets SNG, probably meets WP:GNG. Sourcing seems acceptable given the nature of the article.
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Restored to main space, without prejudice to a second AfD or removal of unsourced content.
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http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/853363-street-fighter-maker-wants-capcom-vs-nintendo
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cubed itself, actually be "discussing" cubed directly and in some level of detail. --
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The problem is that the subjects of articles have to demonstrate that they pass the
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Extremely sorry to be a bother, but I was wondering if the response from
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was going to be followed up on. Will it be possible to restore the old
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Because Valeria Solovieva has participated at the ITF level (per
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it back to DRV or contact an established editor to review it.
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be re-instated so that it can be edited accordingly?
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I move for speedy closure.ā€” 1573:ā€“ Histmerge done, nothing further to do here. ā€“ 1323:http://en.wikipedia.org/Pang%3A_Magical_Michael 1692:Could we see the history in question, please.ā€” 1206:) has become a registered company in the UK ( 8: 753:of this article to only the first sentence: 1592:The following is an archived debate of the 1127:The following is an archived debate of the 1101:ā€“ Recreation declined, content userfied to 901:The following is an archived debate of the 767:; born November 3, 1992) is a professional 745:, it will allow users to determine whether 702:no prejudice to a subsequent AfD discussion 510:The following is an archived debate of the 288:The following is an archived debate of the 100:The following is an archived debate of the 1562: 1090: 868: 472: 251: 63: 1797:Because for some reason I looked at the 1006:. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review
Log
2011 August 9
Deletion review archives
2011 August
2011 August 11
10 August 2011
Braves-Mets rivalry
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Bravesā€“Mets rivalry
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08:26, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
deletion review
Braves-Mets rivalry
talk
edit
history
logs
links
watch
XfD
restore
Arnabdas
talk
20:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
postdlf
talk
14:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Cunard
talk
18:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

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