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for citations in an article seem to agree on something, that this constitutes some kind of finding of fact or establishment of consensus (real-world or on-wiki). That is, of course, nonsense. It is sometimes recast in other words, e.g. that the sources already cited should be given primacy over all
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Knowledge (XXG) editors consider the real-world consensus (scientific, historiographic, English-language-usage, etc.) as determined by a preponderance of all available relevant, modern, independent, reliable, secondary sources we can bring to a consensus discussion. If this were not true, then:
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other sources (as if they have been through some kind of formal vetting process, which they haven't); or that if the sources we're using now seem to agree on something that this is good enough, and further examination of source material is unneeded, even unwarranted.
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search results and the patterns they reveal in sources; etc.). The idea that they are to be ignored, or are second place to what just happens to be cited already in the article as of this timestamp, is not only unworkable but absurd. It bears no resemblance to how
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of some carefully selected sources that seem synergistic, so as to "lead" the reader to a conclusion not actually found in those sources, while omitting sources that made it clear that this seemingly inexorable conclusion was a
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with trivial ease: For example, if you didn't like the fact that our article title used lower-case for something you thought should be capitalized, despite most reliable sources not capitalizing it, you could
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by just swapping out all lower-casing sources with upper-casing ones of otherwise equal quality and pertinence, then request a move with the so-called proof that "all of our sources capitalize this".
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were edited to predominantly cite entertainment-news sources that referred to her as "Ke$ ha" following her old album-cover stylization, this would produce a faked appearance that her
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policy, failing to use newer source material to update formerly accepted but now disproved claims, or other changed facts, that we'd gotten from older source material.
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Knowledge (XXG) consensus formation considers all available, valid source material. For simple matters like titling and style questions, we
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It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Knowledge (XXG) contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of
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analysis of anything that all, since only the sources cited right this moment could be used to assess viewpoint balance.
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The argument that consensus discussions about content may only (or should primarily) consider those sources
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in reliable sources was in fact "Ke$ ha". Yet not only is that false today, it has
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An uncommon but long-term-recurrent argument suggests that if the sources
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false, even back when Kesha was using that stylization in her marketing.
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could not be identified and removed, chief among them the use of
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that track string-usage frequency in books over time;
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essay
Knowledge (XXG)'s policies or guidelines
thoroughly vetted by the community
Shortcut
WP:FSS
WP:Due and undue weight
WP:Original research
cherry-picking
false consensus
false facts
Kesha
WP:Most common name
WP:Requested moves
gaming
"win"
WP:Knowledge (XXG) is not paper
Google Ngrams
Google News
Google Scholar
Google Books
Knowledge (XXG):Consensus
Knowledge (XXG):Common-style fallacy
Knowledge (XXG):Specialized-style fallacy
Categories
Knowledge (XXG) essays about verification
Knowledge (XXG) essays about Wikipedian fallacies
Knowledge (XXG) essays about style
Knowledge (XXG) essays about consensus

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