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are alien concepts to them. They are determined that their favorite group should be characterized according to their opinion and take it as an insult if any other suggestions are made. According to some genre warriors, reliable sources are wrong and professional music journalists know nothing about
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Genre warring is disruptive to articles, because the changes have to be reverted. Warriors waste the time of other editors, because it must be spent reverting these edits and some then feel obligated to add the affected articles to their watchlist, thus adding to their workload.
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A special brand of genre warrior, the religious warrior, can spend all their time editing articles to add or remove references to religion from a band's genre as the genre may clash with their personal religious beliefs.
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Attributions that are not as obviously explicit depend on the context of the claim. One "grey-area" case would be if a source merely observes a potential or reputed attribution, such as "
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Genre warriors enjoy the music of a particular group but would feel (choose one: ashamed, emasculated, belittled) to have the music—and by extension, themselves—categorized in a
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Adding references to reliable sources will usually result in a total cure of the disease, especially if the inline citations are included in the infobox. See
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Don't alter genres without specifying a reason why, try not to base your arguments on personal beliefs or feelings, ensure that your claims are verified by
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amongst editors (sometimes following much metaphorical bloodshed) and to discuss change on the article's Talk page, the genre warrior will almost always
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If a warrior continues reverting to their bad edit after being told to stop, then their actions can be considered disruptive. It is not a form of
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It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Knowledge contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of
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Ban all mention of genres in the infobox. (This was proposed and implemented for several weeks in late 2008, but the community "
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Although there is no scientific explanation for this odd behavior, experts in the field have offered ideas. These include:
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Editors should not attempt to "correct" sourced genres that redirect to a seemingly synonymous term (such as "
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That said, a genre description should reflect the consensus of music writers and fans, rather than giving
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of the infobox itself. Large quantities of text might be confusing or intimidating to some warriors.
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doesn't mean it's appropriate to add "heavy metal" to the genre description in that album's infobox.
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Use a (specialized) warning template to tell genre warriors that their behavior is a problem.
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that describe Metallica by the consensus of the music community. But on the other hand...
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If the above does not work, discussing the matter on the talk page should help remedy it.
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a band, and so they change their genre to one of the aforementioned undesirable genres.
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If a disagreement arises over how a source categorizes an artist, album or song, do not
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music compared to them and hold 'grudges' or are 'out to get' a particular artist.
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album, including "emo" in the album's infobox might not be seen as the best idea.
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to any particular journalist or review. Just because music journalist
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Even if the infobox contains an editors' note advising of current
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over it. Instead, take the issue to the talk page, and start an
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explicitly attribute the genre to the work or artist as a whole
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Descriptors should also not be combined with styles (i.e. "
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Any genre description must be sourced. Knowledge prohibits
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User:Mungo Kitsch/Essays/Genre warring and genre warriors
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conclusions that are not explicitly stated by the sources
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depending on how the original source itself is worded.
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for a list of some good sources to cite for genres.
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the album is a quintessential example of avant-rock
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balances the line between indie pop and electronica
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Knowledge:GENREWARRING
essay
Knowledge's policies or guidelines
thoroughly vetted by the community
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WP:GWAR
WP:GENREWAR
WP:GWARRIOR
WP:GENREWARRIOR
reliable sources

single-purpose account
infoboxes
categories
no original research
neutral point-of-view
synthesis
edit war
RfC
original research
unverifiable claims
conclusions that are not explicitly stated by the sources
undue weight
Chuck Eddy
Teena Marie
Emerald City
Knowledge:No original research
Knowledge:Identifying reliable sources
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