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so that an interwiki capable template is used to provide the link. (Note all sisters will want any or many tools templates, however, when they do import one, the usage should not show redlinks to others in a see also list. This means the various interwiki versions based on Ltsany and Tlx, or Tlw/Tlm
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Parserfunctions, both of which are likely about to disappear as part of the survey and recategorization undertaken on wikipedia during early February
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In particular, some sisters do not have an abbreviation such as 'w:', 'b:', 'q:' and the like, most notably the commons. Longform names do not work within a sister project's pages in most cases. For these, macro templates must be used, which tests the
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When a category (generally one which includes a sitename 'Knowledge (XXG) templates', 'Wikiquote templates' is utilized within a template, or one of the common categories interwiki connected using this project, appropriate #ifeq:-then-else tests of
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are productivity multipliers and not magic boxes, as some lay people seem to think. Macro's have existed since at least the late sixties and much of today's software technology would be lost without such in its various computer languages.
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If some have a moment to assist in adding the 'doc page pattern' technique to such tools templates, especially the protected templates, this will be a big help in inoculating (preventing) the system from such server loads. The
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dedicated to improvement and dissemination of
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