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and broadwayworld.com are not reliable sources". I wonder why they are bad sources as they've been used in hundreads (or thousands) of other music articles. In July I added a new source, Bandcamp.com, which has been mentioned in thousands of articles but the draft was declined again. There's now 17 sources, all external to the band and I'm asked to remove "all the unreliable sources before resubmitting it for a review". Should I do that? If I remove allmusic, top40, bww and bandcamp there will be 11 sources left. Any other ideas about how to improve the draft or explanations about why these sources are so bad? And yes, I'm a paid editor and open about it. The article was created by someone who was not open and he was being blocked (for ever) before he was able to confess.

2404:, third highest civilian award-winning and a well known journalist from India) it can be very well cited as inline reference. Reviewer also believes that as DYK hooks appear on the Main Page so they should maintain highest standards which is sort of vague point as for me all the articles of Knowledge must maintain highest standards of quality irrespective of where they appear. A source is either "reliable" or not. So the moot point here is whether a video from this particular channel can be cited as reference especially when it is authored by a well known journalist. I am new to Knowledge so can't claim to understand all of its policies but no where I found that there is any ban on citing videos as references. Please share your thoughts on the matter.-- 1829:|publisher= parameter to indicate The Free Press (the name of the publisher). When I did a preview, the New York entry appeared as Category:New York - a link which (of course) went nowhere, as the 'real' category is New York City. I couldn't figure out why the template wanted to make New York a category, so I eliminated the whole |location= parameter, and entered |publisher=New York: The Free Press, which made the entry look correct. I've left the entry with my 'kludge' modification (an early computer-era term for a slapdash solution), but it probably could be tested by editing the page and re-entering |location=New York and doing a preview (without saving). I'd like to find out what I might have been doing wrong (assuming it's not a bug in Cite Book). 3472:(which has 15 different badges you can earn as you learn the basics of editing). Don't be put off if another, more experienced editor drops by your talk page and tells you you've done something wrong - just listen to them and learn from the experience. We all make mistakes to begin with, and the Teahouse hosts are always here to assist you with editing problems. If you don't understand something, just ask. Best wishes for your own Knowledge adventure. It can be life-changing! I'll pop by and leave a welcome message full of useful links to our help pages. These can be overwhelming at first, so take it slowly to begin with, and remember: one small edit for man; one giant encyclopaedia for mankind. (or womankind, of course!). Regards, 3053:- Just to explain a bit further, Knowledge is an encyclopedia, not a scientific journal, and so it only accepts content that has already been covered extensively in reliable sources. It doesn't accept new/original research, or people drawing new conclusions based on existing sources. The type of thing you are proposing, which is to use Knowledge as a place to host your own research and ideas, is absolutely contrary to our policies and your edits would be swiftly reverted. Sorry if this is disappointing, but you would be better of sticking to writing your blog, or trying to publish your ideas in a reputable journal. 1850:. Knowledge and Commons are separate projects. While there's lots of similarities and overlapping content, not everything that works of Knowledge will work on Commons. Templates, for example, used on Knowledge are uploaded locally and unless there is an identical template with exactly the same name uploaded locally to Knowledge Commons, the template is not going to work. Even if there are local versions for a template uplaoded to each project, the template will only work as it's been set up to work, i.e. according to it's documentation page. 2759:. You may disagree with that, but that is for discussion on the article talk page to get consensus either way. To me, it does appear as if your source would support the insertion of one of the schools, but not the other two. However, you also made a significant change to the structure of the article, so it is not entirely surprising that was reverted. Either way, I don't have any background on the context of this article, which is why it is usually better to discuss it there, with the other editors who are regularly working on it. 1603:. That's weird! You didn't say what your preferred account name is, but the simple solution is to abandon this account, never use it again (ever), and simply go back and try again with your chosen name, and just use that account name from now on. (I've no idea if this is relevant, but just recently there have been situations on Knowledge where I've found myself in edit conflict with myself - possibly due to some sort of server lag in which one tries a second time to do something that didn't 1522:. I really encourage you to consider submitting a DYK as it's a great way for your efforts in creating a new article to be recognised. But I'll be frank: it's not an easy task by any means (it has quite necessarily complex instructions, I'm afraid), so I'd suggest you work on understanding the basics of editing first. In other words, you could wait to submit your draft artile until it's really ready and you've worked out how the DYK process works. 35: 2049:

many problems to be worth restoring, then maybe the administrator will just move the drafts to the mainspace as new articles. While discussing things with the deleting admin first might seem to be a unnecessary hoop to jump through, it's probably a good idea as a courtesy and also to make sure any recreation you simply add directly to the mainspace is not going to end up quickly deleted for the same reasons as before. --

1499:). I've added a 'submit' button to that draft for you to click when you're ready. In the meantime, it would be good if you could improve the way references are displayed. I've enhanced the first reference for you, and you should try using the 'Cite web' button which you'll find in the editing toolbar. With just a url you can often autocomplete the majority of the reference. (See also 2109: 2652:. Your draft is currently awaiting another AfC review, and it appears some others have been helping clean up some things up. One thing I noticed is that the entire first paragraph of the "Life" section is not supported by any citations, which is not really a good thing. As for other ways to improve the draft, you might want to take a look at 878:(which is a good place to find other possible sources). BWW probably is unreliable, the reliable sources noticeboard has had a couple of short discussions on it. Top40 charts is unclear. I've removed the UDP tag as I felt that most of the content had now been handled by you, and if you were a non-paid editor it would be a legitimate removal. 2436:. I sense that the other editor (Nsk92) is correct in their interpretation about the need for stricter sourcing for mainpage DYK articles, but it's not the best idea to shop around for different views as nothing we can say here will impact on the acceptability or otherwise of a DYK nomination. Good luck with it, though. 3108:, which is for non-controversial maintenance, and have used a template that is intended for a page that is 'holding up a page move', but have not filled in what the page to be moved is. And then, the reason you have actually written is that it is a duplicate page, in which case the correct criteria is 2262:

are highly discouraged. In order for you to be successful in writing about yourself, you would need to forget everything you know about yourself and only write based on what independent sources have said about you. As you can imagine, this is very difficult for most people to do. The best thing for

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I am a full Professor at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. I am a clinical researcher in the area of transplantation. I received an email from an individual that he will write about me for Knowledge. Is this legitimate. His name is Saad Akhtar. How to proceed. Would appreciate your input.

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message. Maybe that's what's happened here.) But long story short: just try to create the new account name (with a different password) and you should be fine. Come back and let us know how you get on and one of us will drop a nice friendly welcome message full of useful links on your new userpage for

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Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. User pages are a place to introduce yourself to the Knowledge community in the context of your Knowledge editing or use. Most users talk about what articles or subjects they are interested in, what they do on Knowledge, and things like that. As you state, they are

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is only an essay, but you might find it helpful. When a particular article is deleted via AfC, it's because that particular version of the article was deemed unacceptable as a stand-alone article at that particular time. In the two years since their deletion, however, things might have changed quite

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and it has been declined three times. Firts in November, as it was "too soon" and there were "no reliable sources about their international tour". The tour was postponed from 2018 to 2019 and once I added the sources for the tour in 2019 it was again declined, because "Allmusic.com, top40-charts.com

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Look at the differences. The most common vandalism is random characters, rude words, or an editor adding their own name or a friend's name. Usually vandalism is fairly obvious, but sometimes it can be quite subtle, and then one needs to do some research to check whether the edit is supported by a

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Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. That message is not automatic; it is placed there by a human and would need to be removed by a human. If you have added appropriate citations and feel that there is enough of them in the article, you may remove the message yourself- but be prepared to justify your

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I am new to Knowledge world, in terms of contributing...so I wanted to ask how to put up reference links i.e. is there any quantifiable parameter to choose a link for reference or is it random? Second, I also want to know what part of content makes an article promotional because recently, one of my

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There are people working on updating citation templates. Expect the unexpected for a while, and hope for the best. I wouldn't bother until the dust settles, other errors may be incoming, or these errors could be fixed automatically later by reverting the changes that are being made, or by running a

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I created a page for someone that shares a name with three other pages. The pages are all named correctly but when you search Knowledge, it automatically directs to the main page and only mentions one alternate (the geologist - not the singer or field assistant). How do you go about changing that?

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somewhere else other than its correct linking? Could this mean that a page does not exist for Johann G. Neumann? He's the scientist who found lines at opposing angles on the surface of Meteorites when ground flat, which is one of the main identification processes for Meteorites. IE Neumann Lines (

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Where the link to a relatively well known Scientist Johann G. Neumann is highlighted in Red, indicating a dead-link. Many times I've felt inclined to correct these anomalies but in this case described above, is it possible that the page for Johann G. Neumann to be called something else - or exist

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There are pages I see that have the message on top of the page saying "This article needs additional citations". But when I put new citations in places where I think it might be needing the same marking on the top of the page still just stays there. Then why did I went on to put new citations? Are

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for each article and then ask the administrator(s) who deleted the articles to take a look at the drafts and assess them. If the drafts are a vast improvement, the administrator may just restore the deleted articles and let you simply add your improvements to them. If the deleted articles had too

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About 12 hours ago I requested a speedy deletion for a page I recently created, because I discovered that it was about the same person as on another page. But 12 hours later the page still hasn’t been speedy deleted. I also noticed everyone else on the speedy deletion candidacy when I originally

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Thank you Nick for your insight. I am not trying to "bring" any discussion here. My bad if it seems like that. As I am new to the platform and don't understand its working environment so thought people here would help me understand whether or not a video can be cited as reference. If I had any

435:; so, you might want to make sure it's in accordance with relevant Knowledge policies and guidelines before that happens. Now, if you truly think you're Knowledge notable enough for a Knowledge article to be written about you, you would be better off working on a draft for such an article as a 1362:

and there is a wizard there you can use to create a draft article for review. Creating a new article is not an easy task for a new editor. I suggest you start by getting experience by working on improving existing articles instead. See the tutorial and also the interactive learning game at

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Today I used the Cite Book template (as I have done many times before) to document something I was writing in a description for a Wikimedia Commons category (Category:Statues of Androgynous Angels). I used the |location= parameter to specify New York (the location of the publisher), and the

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which serves this purpose. Drafts are never used for this purpose. Someone here can give you instructions on how to request an administrator to delete it, or you can simply leave it untouched and it'll get automatically deleted after 6 months, as all unedited drafts are. If you really feel

1705:; such a citation style, however, isn't really common practice and can be tricky to get to work correctly. In addition, when adding citations to the article, you should also try to stick with the citation style already established for the article (including the date format being used per 887:

Trying to find a non BWW source for the tour might be a good way of proving notability. If you manage that, feel free to ping me for a review - the same reviewer is generally discouraged from doing multiple consecutive reviews of a draft unless it either doesn't change or we're requested

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There's an article I want to create with the page name Institution of Textile Engineers and Technologists. I seem to find no existing page for that or even nothing relating to the same thing. Now, how do I do it. Any beginners' level advice and help would be appreciated. Thanks.

3104:- deletions are done by volunteer administrators who do it in their own time, and they don't always work through pages in a strict order. There is no rush, someone will get to your page. However, it probably doesn't help that your deletion criteria are confusing. You have used 3464:. I think the best advice I can give a complete beginner is to start slowly, learning how to make small edits to begin with, then finding out how to add new factual statements (which absolutely have to be supported with a reference for each key fact). You might like to visit 2451:

intention to "bring the discussion" here or anywhere for that matter I'd have notified the reviewer. A user told me how I can ask for help on this page. It's not a matter of DYK but the reliability of using a video as reference in an article.--01:41, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

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This has apparently been reverted by a bot, however when I try to edit the page on my phone, I am unable to locate the vandalism in the edit page. I've tried swiping down to reload the page, clearing my Knowledge's App cache, and signing out then signing back into my app.

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The hypothesis was proven the only potential explanation to the disaster at the last scientific conference about the disaster. The disaster in question is highly political potent and the hypothesis is unpleasant so the explanation has been handled by thundering silence.

2755:- Welcome to the Teahouse. When there is a disagreement about content, it is usually better to discuss that with the editors involved, or at the talk page of the article, first. In this case, the editor removing your edits left an edit summary explaining their reasoning. 1046:

copyright. Also, I don't really use Pinterest so I might be wrong, but I understand that it is often a collection of images found elsewhere on the web, so you need to consider whether the owner of the pinboard where you find it is actually the owner of the image or not.

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Key for this query is whether Akhtar is offering to try to create a Knowledge biography article about you in return for being paid. Paid is frowned upon but not forbidden. There is no guarantee that your accomplishments meet Knowledge's criteria for academics. See

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and might not've been properly discussed before being made; so, perhaps the thing to do would be to sit tight a bit and leave the CS1 errors as is (no matter how "wrong" that seems) because things might ultimately sort themselves out if the change is reverted. --

1788:; moreover, for off-topic posts, "collapsing" is sometimes even preferred to outright removal.Copying posts made by others on one talk page to another talk page can also be confusing because there is really no record of them making the post on the new talk page; 1514:). I'm afraid I had to remove your submission. However the essence of DYK is that, once a draft is published in mainspace, you have 7 days to complete a DYK submission template. This means you have to find an interesting 'hook' which will interest readers, which 1925:. I think that redirects are really only use when they lead to content about the subject in the target article. The fact that only mention of Baron in the Nielsen article is as an author of a cited work is not, in my opinion, really a good use of a redirect per 1097:

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. To edit an article, you click "edit" at the top of the article. If you need more clarification, please ask- but first you will need to change your username, as usernames cannot be that of a business or organization per the

2358:, you are welcome to write a little about yourself on your user page, but it must not look like an article. Please re-write it in "first person" (using "I"), not third person as in articles. Knowledge is an encyclopaedia, so cannot be used for promotion. 427:. While users are allowed to add some personal information about themselves to their user pages, a user page is not really intended to be a personal website or online profile. Your's is currently heading in the direction (if not already there) or being a 2039:

to now justify stand-alone articles about them. I cannot see the older articles, but if you feel you can create "newer" versions which are substantially different and vast improvements over the deleted ones, then they shouldn't end up being deleted per

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I'm a bit unsure as to what you are referring to, but am I right in thinking you are looking at an image on a website outside of Knowledge, and wanting to upload that image to Wikimedia? If so, then yes - the Copyright symbol indicates that except in a

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I am new member, just now. The username I chose was already in use so I entered a new username. I created my account. But....My account is using the first username they said was already used, not my second choice. What's going on, please? Thank you.

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articles got deleted for being promotional, whereas other articles in the same genre are accepted and comfortably live. Kindly provide an easy and understandable list of parameters that one should keep in mind. I will be waiting for your response.

3358:. Like any other article in Knowledge, it would have to be almost entirely based on places where people who have no connection with the diary or diarist have chosen to publish, at some length, about the diary. Not many diaries meet that criterion ( 2241:

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. So what you did was edit your user page, which is not article space. Because of that, it is not searchable by search engines. You seem to have a common misunderstanding as to what Knowledge is. Knowledge is

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template is specifically used for citing online sources, which mean a link to the source needs to be provided for the template to work properly. If no such link is provided, you'll see the error message referred to in your post. Some templates

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describes what is (and is not) acceptable user page content. Also understand that it is not required to have anything on your user page, many long time users do not have a user page, and others simply redirect it to their user talk page.

1667:. You do not add references to the bottom of the page. The wiki software does that automatically. Instead, you add the references in the body of the article, right after the sentence or sentences that the reference supports. Please read 1768:. It's not always necessary to physically remove a discussion from one talk page to move/continue the same discussion on another talk page. Sometimes just letting others know that the discussion has been "moved" with templates such as 2270:. Any information about you, good or bad, can be in an article about you as long as it appears in an independent source. You cannot lock it to the text you might prefer or prevent others from editing it. Please keep this in mind. 2987:

My wikipedia contribution will be in parallel with a blog I write on the same issue. The authorities in question has been given one month to react on the draft blog. Similarly so for the academics involved proving the Hypothesis.

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says that I could edit a redirect if I think that it should be expanded into a new article. However, if the article has been deleted and turned into a redirect, is this still the case? Do I need to discuss it with the deleter?

1933:, but those are different questions to be asked. For reference, the editor who created the redirect is no longer active, but their user talk page seems to show that some other redirects they created ended up being deleted via 305:

As Rudolf said, writing content for Knowledge is one of the most difficult tasks, especially for a new editor or one whose first language is not English. Just like articles in newspapers, books, and other encyclopedias (e.g.,

3402:. Unfortunately, the type of diary-like stuff you've put on your talk page is not acceptable. It's far too personal and not relevant to Knowledge at all. I would urge you to remove it all immediately please, and perhaps read 3112:. There's probably some debate to be had about whether your page is a 'plausible redirect' but the reviewing admin can make a decision on that. If they think it should be a redirect, they'll do that instead of deleting it. 541:

are two such examples) can be used without providing an online source because they are technically citing a published work, not a specific website, and published works are not required to be available online per

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process is firstly (as has happened) at the specific DYK template you've linked to above. If you feel further input is required I'd either ping some of the active/experienced DYK editors to that discussion

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Welcome to Wikiepdia. After you resolve the username issue and create an individual account, there are a couple of useful resources to look at for learning how to edit. There is the Knowledge Tutorial at

1792:; unlike in the case of article content, however, some people can get pretty upset when their posts are moved around like that particularly with respect to a difficult or contentious discussions (see all 2527:

Something that is commonly encountered are apparently links to pages that should be fine but for whatever reason appear to be effectively deleted, leaving dead-links. An example would be the following:

164:. You should use the syntax that works. It's quite possible that the change was made and neither the LINKROT page nor the individual template page's were updated. At the same time, it appears from 1929:. Now, it might be possible that Baron might be able to be mentioned in some other article (just only requiring a tweaking of the redirect) or even be notable enough for a stand-alone article per 1392: 1038:

You can but bear in mind that, as I said above, free to use doesn't mean absence of a copyright symbol, it means the owner has actively placed a statement releasing it under a license that is

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requested speedy deletion, had their Article speedy deleted. But not mine, even some articles that were requested 2 hours after my request have been speedy deleted. So what’s the hold up?

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you to do is to allow others to take note of your music career and write about you. If you have any contributions you want to make to Knowledge that are not about yourself, feel free.

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whenever possible if you want to refer to something someone posted on one talk page on a different talk page.One last thing to remember is that moving a discussion to a new page is a

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wikilink a name that does not yet have an article, so that the link appears in red, to draw attention to the fact that an article would be desirable. Note that we do have an article

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So the question is, where have several people published books or articles about this particular diary? If the answer is "nowhere", then we cannot have an article about it. Sorry. --

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Hello. I cannot tell if Saad Akhtar is legitimate or not, but if this person is requesting anything from you in exchange for writing your article, I would advise you not to do it.

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in order to merit an article here. Not every musician merits an article here. Furthermore, Knowledge is not interested in what someone wants to say about themselves. As such,

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I can hardly expect anybody else to add to the article in question so I will have to do it myself. As my own contribution is minor I think this will be prudent. Do you agree???

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If you want to try editing Knowledge, please leave a message on my talk page (just click the "talk" link near the end of this message), and I'll be more than happy to help you.

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I created my Knowledge page and I want to post it so every could easily search me and read about me. And how can I upload my photo. I page name is PuneGreatness. Thanks you.

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move that some others might not agree with, which is why it might be a good idea to at least try and see what others think before unilaterally making such a move. --

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and welcome to the Teahouse. If an image is copyright, then you cannot upload it to Commons. The copyright holder can release the copyright is they upload it. See

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is sufficient. Generally, discussion threads/comments should only really be removed in their entirety when they're a serious policy or guidelines violation such as

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an issue has been raised by the reviewer that a YouTube video can't be used as reference. My take is that if the video on YouTube is hosted by a reliable channel (

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because you will pretty much have no final editorial control over any Knowledge article about you; in other words, you might end up being remembered, but

208:. Changing even a single character can cause tons of problems depending upon how widely the template is being used. This particular change appears to be 1906:, and the only mention that I see of Scott Baron is as co-author of a reference (number 20 at the time I write this post). It just seems a bit obscure. 347:

I have always wanted to have an article about my music and life to be published on Knowledge for the future generations. How do I go about doing this?

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Should I change the tag to the correct tag? I couldn’t find that exact tag last night so I just found the closes tag to the tag that you had suggested.

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my apologies if I misunderstood the reason behind your question. Ignoring DYK, no, there's nothing in policy to stop you citing a good Youtube video,

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is what it looks like on Commons; since they're technically for separate projects, it would be better discuss the Commons one on Commons, perhaps at

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as soon as possible to make a request. In addition, if you intend to edit about your company or its clients, you must review and comply with the

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it cannot be used on Knowledge as we require all of our content to be free from any license restrictions. It's worth noting that even if content

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I Hope that you are doing well by the way I am recently joined Knowledge as to contribute , So I need to know how I can Published new article

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is causing lots of confusion at the moment; you might want to point out that things like the LINKROT page will also need to be updated. --

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Drafts aren't yet live articles, and need to be either moved into what we call 'mainspace' or, better still, submitted for review. (see

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I tried to add Herbert E Meyer. He was awarded the medal in 1986. Here is a speech CIA director Bill Casey made during the ceremony;

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like Facebook for people to tell the world about themselves. This is an encyclopedia, where we are interested in what independent

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I have a predicament. If a person has this (©), in the author name, does this mean that I cannot publish that photo in wiki media?

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to gain opinion from expert volunteers on the reliability of particular sources. I hope this is sufficiently supportive for you.

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the only true way to write about yourself while staying in the Knowledge guideline is to write about yourself on your talk page(

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I am trying to add a couple references to the bottom of this page (# 26 & 27) I can't for the life of me figure this out!

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for an article about you to be written. For more information on the whether you possibly are Knowledge notable, take a look at

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Thanks Marchjuly. I don't know why the original creator didn't argue, so hopefully I will be able to get the articles back.

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I updated the list of academies to match the cited reference on the government's website but the content has been removed?

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on the Knowledge homepage. Unfortunately it is far more than just adding a hyperlink to an unpublished draft, (as you did

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to get a feel of the basics of editing. Come back and ask anything about editing, at anytime. The Teahouse never closes!

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How to be permanently active on this site? And I want to upload an infobox, but it says "something wrong". Why?

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Another question, can you use Pinterest for a picture source as long as the author has the image free to use

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be fully supported by a suitable reference. Every articles has to be properly structured according to our

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Yeah, probably best if you change it. Let me know if you have any difficulties and I can do it for you.

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then feel free to either request an article, or better still start to put one together yourself. Read

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to work the first time around, but which did actually go ahead. The second keypress then yields a

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If you think an article needs to have an alternative way of being found, we have a system called

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and it probably means that no-one has written an article for Neumann yet. If Neumann meets the

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in the current version of the article; so, perhaps you figured things out. For reference, the

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I have studied a very nasty disaster and I created a Hypothesis based on evidence by others.

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Is it customary to have a redirect whose target is the author of a reference in an article?

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is not used, because it gives others some idea as to when the source was last checked. --

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Thanks, but I can't figure out how to make Former cities in New York City appear first.

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So, uh, yeah, this is probably a silly question to be asking, since the answer seems so

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such as recognised news channels, and doesn't breach anyone's copyright. You would use

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which anyone can create in order to send someone to the right page. I see you created

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the subcategory Former cities in New York City is in the wrong place. Why? Thanks.

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Clearing my Knowledge App cache didn't work, but restarting it did. Thank you! --

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Android Knowledge app displays vandalized content that has already been reverted

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Depends. Is it your personal diary, or is it a famous diary like Anne Frank's?

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There is a very structured and formal approach for submitting articles for

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I intend to use my real name, which is unique, rather than the nickname.

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Can anyone help to fix this error "Lua Error in Module" in an article

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quite a few of them show in red "Cite web requires |website= (help)"?

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and start by gathering references explaining why Neumann is notable.

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the following vandalism still appears on my Android Knowledge App:

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reliable, GSS is incorrect. The discussions on it can be seen at

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Can you have a more computer savvy person edit the site for me?

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not general social media-type pages. As noted by Usedtobecool,

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If they're not like profiles on other websites, what are they?

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not exactly for the things or the ways you want to be remembered

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I’m completely new to editing Knowledge can I have some tips?

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I am looking to clarify how I edit existing Knowledge pages.

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problem using the Cite Book template in Wikimedia Commons

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is the same person and the articles should be merged.

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it probably can be done if proper attribution is given

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