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National Archives, the UK government's official archive (and a government department in fact). Their responsibility is maintaining the archives of more than a thousand years of heritage here in the UK. On the other hand, whilst they have access to a far greater number of primary sources than any singe person, they do not attribute their learning material to any one particular author, and do not state any editorial guidelines. So it's a toss up really. -
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punctuation, I'm afraid. Maybe someone fixed them before I looked. Likewise with overlinking, I've had a look and while the same article is linked more than once, I can't find any instances when it wouldn't be awkward to backtrack to find the link (in the lead, for example). I'll go work on the prose some more now. -
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Its an educational website featuring on line biographies, primarily from the history of the USA and Britain the author is John Simkin (BA, MA, MPhil) a member of the European History E-Learning Project (E-Help), which aims to encourage and improve use of ICT and the internet in classrooms across the
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The biggest issue is the prose. While I am going away for a couple weeks and may not be able to check in and change to support, if a copy edit is done by someone very good at it who can improve the prose and the other minor issues I mentioned above are fixed, I can be considered to be in support. –
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Naturally. Is there a list identifying the top band of reliable sources? Criteria for being "high-quality"? I'd be interested to read it; the only mentions in that informative Signpost article of "high-quality" were for referencing any contentious claims about living people with them, which to my
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of internet searching going on here. Perhaps the same effect, and much more reliable sources, could be found by visiting a library...? What I mean is, I can't believe that something like "German zeppelins bombed towns on the east coast, starting on 19 January 1915 with Great Yarmouth." cannot be
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I'll no doubt re-reference the Zeppelin thing to Beckett (most things are in his book). 70% of citations refer to offline sources now (after Jim made some edits). I'm not sure what to make of the Learning Curve; for the benefit of anyone reading this not familiar with the site, it's run by the
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I agree in part about the prose; I don't think it's brilliant, but "really unprofessional in many places" seems a little harsh. (I would say that though, I wrote ~half of it.) I'll try to get someone less inherently biased to have a look over it, of course. I couldn't find any refs before
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Capitalization needs some attention. Why do we have "Prime minister" even when used as a title, yet "World War I Recruiting poster", "Women and the Suffragette movement", "Ration books", etc? Other iffy uses: Government, Navy,
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It needs a copy-edit. While I've done what I could, there are still places that need someone very good at copy-editing to clean up the prose; it sounds really unprofessional in many places now.
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should be italicized. One wonky date (12 May, 2002) needs a formatting fix. Citations 60 and 61 are malformed - what is this: Parliament? ("Β© UK Parliament"Hansard'.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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is technically reliable (hence no objection above), but this will have to be replaced prior to any FAC, as it now requires that claims be verifiable against
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Quite a few publications listed in References are not cited anywhere (Bromley, HMSO, Morris, Murie, Pigou, The War Office). Have we lost some citations?
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Apologies if I sounded harsh above, just bad writing annoys me. Thanks for the ref's and links, as soon as the copyedit is done I'll be satisfied. –
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I see both unspaced emdashes and spaced endashes; while these are both acceptable forms per MOS, please pick one for consistency within the article.
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The article title uses "World War I", the infobox image caption uses "World War One", another image caption uses "WWI"...consistency, please.
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Its a Distance Learning University and College Degree site, written by a singularly accountable author (Chris Trueman BA (Hons), MA).
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and myself have expanded the article by twenty times, its been through a peer review and we now believe its A class standard
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The Author is Professor Kent Sole, Department of Politcial Science,Georgia Southwestern State University, Americus, Georgia.
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Glanced over article, seems A-class. I may change to oppose, neutral, or support, after thorough reading and critiquing.
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Current ref 18 should be cited as if we were looking at the book; the Internet Archive is just a convenience link.
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While I'm not convinced that this, too, is the best place to be getting your information, it seems reliable. β€”
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Image captions need some cleanup: ending punctuation should not be used when the caption consists only of a
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http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1915/mar/01/damage-by-german-raids#S5CV0070P0_19150301_HOC_140
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Instead of what you have in ref 14, why not just cite the treaty? Digital Survivor should simply be a
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Moved some refs after punctuation and a couple of over links, there is a Requests for copy-editing at
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While I'm not convinced that this is the best thing to be citing information to, it seems reliable. β€”
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No problem. I don't like bad prose myself, just - sometimes it's a compromise. Working on it. -
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Bromley, Morris, Murie and Pigou removed can only think left in by error as the article evolvd
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provides good evidence as to the reliability of the site - accountability of authors, etc.
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Watch over-linking: many terms are linked several times or more throughout the article.
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Featured article candidates/History of the United Kingdom during World War I/archive1
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Nonbreaking spaces should be used between values and units of measure (1.4Β million).
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In general, this is in fairly good shape, but it would benefit from a copyedit.
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It's a history site and has been accepted as reliable on featured articles see
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reliable? Also, why is "available on line" in there? There is a link... (ref 57)
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which, not surprisingly, is a set index page. I presume the intended target is
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Quotations should not be italicized. Ship names should be italicized (HMS
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Refs 47–49 could be cited to just "Royal Navy" (note capital N there...)
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http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/snapshots/snapshot32/snapshot32.htm
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Ah, that'd be the one in the navbox at the bottom. I'll change it.
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I am nominating this article for A-Class review because both
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removed ref - dont think its needs as there wiki links
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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history
Assessment
archive
Cam
05:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
History of the United Kingdom during World War I
Jim Sweeney
talk
User talk:Jarry1250
Featured article candidates/History of the United Kingdom during World War I/archive1
Analysis
Citation bot
External links
User:Jarry1250
Jim Sweeney
talk
11:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
my
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inc
13:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Joe
N
15:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Jarry1250
16:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history/Logistics
Jim Sweeney
talk
16:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

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