Knowledge talk:WikiProject China/Archive 11

1804:. Say an English speaker comes up to you and explains that it's just a phrase to describe the food. But then you look it up in the dictionary, and it says something along the lines of "burning to the touch" and "canine" respectively. You'd be more confused by the definitions than if you didn't look it up in the first place. Aside from that, the linking builds up. I once found out that if the Wiktionary links were all removed in an article, it would save 2KB worth of space, and there wasn't even that much linking in the first place. So it's a huge space waster and more likely to confuse than aid. 31: 979:, so once you guys create or five fold expand Buddhist related articles (famous temples, monks, movies, literature, paintings, foods, etc) within 5 days, and then nominate it to the below place. After a review, your article can be featured on the main page. So be hurry if you are interested. :) There were many edit warring over Chinese food articles, but this will be an opportunity to shape up articles with references. Thanks. 2988:

editor in good faith, because s/he was unsure of what our policy actually was. I couldn't find a discussion on it, though maybe I missed it. Some of the categories for C-Class had already been created prior to today, and the banner was partially coded to accept C-Class, so it certainly seemed as though there had been plans to use it. If anyone has an opinion on using it or not, we can certainly discuss it here.--

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all the articles already have literal meanings written in them (which make far more sense since they've been provided by native or advanced speakers), and readers would more likely to be confused by the definition rather than helped. If you couldn't speak English and a native speaker provided a literal meaning, and then you checked up the definition for each word on a dictionary, then...? A good example would be

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for xin ren cha or Cha Tang, just make them redirects to the English translation as those are generic and internationalized enough terms that people would understand them, and of course because there are other words that have the same pinyin that could fit there, to avoid confusion. I would think that each case should be treated separately, instead of having a mandated guideline

1785:. Also I don't really think google webpage-hit is a good way to estimate "popularity" of eastern food items. About using wiktionary links in food pages to individual characters, it should be allowed. It doesn't take up much space in the article. Can we make a decision on that one first? Seems like no one is against wiktionary character links? 3200:

about your topic GAs then an outside reviewer. As a result, reviewing your project's articles would improve the quality of the review in ensuring that the article meets your project's concerns on sourcing, content, and guidelines. However, members can also review any other article in the worklist to ensure it meets the GA criteria.

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We are always looking for new members to assist with reviewing the remaining articles, and since this project has GAs under its scope, it would be beneficial if any of its members could review a few articles (perhaps your project's articles). Your project's members are likely to be more knowledgeable

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I have changed the template to accept C-Class. I have tested it a bit, but there could be errors in my changes, so please report any problems you have with it here. Incidentally, the assessment instructions page said that we do not use C-Class, but that appears to have been unilaterally added by an

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available -- at a first approximation, they are available through the wikilinks that you are trying to remove! The more complex English translations of Chinese dish names are available as well, on numerous websites of food magazines, travel magazines, newspapers, etc. A "custom" translation that you,

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policy actually is for. It doesn't mean that if you don't know the language, you call the translation original research. That's a load of nonsense. And where did I say that I would be some superior editor who would provide all the translations? You're taking my words and twisting them up into things

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Yes, I read the paragraph above. Apart from your dubious "hot dog" example, your main objection appears to be that wikitionary might provide a less high-quality literal translation than you believe you can. Such a "custom" translation is, on its face, original research, and thus not relevant to this

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Fundamentally, we should discuss thoroughly and work together with one another in a positive and collaborative manner. Pages should not be moved without prior discussion and consensus, and evidence provided for the most commonly used term in English. Sometimes the English translation is not the most

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Wiktionary linking is hardly useful for the subjects in question. I wouldn't object to usage in articles where it's helpful to provide definitions, but here every single character is sloppily coded in an attempt to "force-link" everything whether it makes sense to provide a definition or not. Almost

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or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. With ~1,300 articles left to review, we would appreciate any editors that could contribute in helping to uphold the quality of GAs. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help

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seems to have a bias toward Europe and North America. In particular, the sentence "Prior to 1910, dietary fats primarily consisted of butterfat, beef tallow, and lard" caught my eye. I don't know anything about Asian culinary history, but those who do might be interested in adding something to that

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What you've written here GraYoshi seems to me to be an admission of your bad faith on this subject. You ask Badagnani to stop "re-adding" links. So the links were there, you unilaterally decided to remove them, Badagnani (and others) put them back, and now you want to delete them again, and to have

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Maybe I was hasty in moving the pages; AjaxSmack is right about that. However, jumping onto another person's post only to attack me with phrases such as "campaign of deletion" and offering no other information isn't helping (as you've done in the past). Explain why Wiktionary linking helps. I wrote

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on whether ancient/medieval Chinese sources can be cited and used to develop new articles. To the extent that folks may have view on the matter, I would appreciate you to put in your two cents, particularly given that there are people there who appear to be, in my opinion, unduly questioning their

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Have you actually read the paragraph I typed up above? Taking up space was only maybe a secondary reason of mine, and literal translations are found at the side of the Chinese cuisine infobox (how does that even break up any text?). Taking things out of context via a dictionary entry with numerous

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I have no clue seeing as how confusing the translation process is, but from my gut feeling, I would say that multiple characters for one "word/idea" should be together, and ones for more than one should be apart, unless there's a popular internationalized phrasing. Ex: Zhajian Mian and La Mian. As

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This new user has been been editing and creating a number of China related articles, and is begging for help with references and notability. His English is not the best, but he appears to be trying hard to understand, and be understood. My knowledge of the subject is very limited, but if someone

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The name of the article should go with an english name.... if there is one. The romanization (pinyin, IPA, jyutping, yale etc) name is really as a last resort for something that has either a impossible translation or very uncertain english names. Even outside of english, most food have a north

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There was no "snide tone" intended. I merely pointed out the timeline to place your attempt at "framing" the discussion here (eg. "re-adding" when you mean "reverting") in context. Your campaign of deletion is creating a lot of work for other people if this discussion doesn't go your way, as is

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It's not extreme if you think about it. How many Chinese dishes you know have names that actually make sense and describe the dish? Not many, honestly. Commons images is a whole other story as that's a place to store free content, but Wiktionary linking is more like a crude way to get the wrong

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because completely lacked one, but I'm not sure the part I wrote about there being fewer pronouns than English is correct after after seeing the large number of that exist in the written language. I also need someone who can input (or at least locate) several characters to include on that page.

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as if it agrees with you. It doesn't. The relevant passage is, surely, this: "Where English translations of non-English material are unavailable, Knowledge editors may supply their own." Your entire point in your "hot dog" paragraph above hinges on this. The thing is that English translations

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Most of the articles listed above consist of names really no more than 5 characters long. A few links is not taking up that much space. Space is not a worry. I just think it is bad to say wiktionary is not reliable when both wikipedia and wiktionary is basically under the same Jimmy wales

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two purposes. 1) It removes the need to tediously place "literal" translations in line, breaking up the flow of text. Such translations can be found at the click of a mouse. This makes pages more attractive. 2) It assists English-speaking learners of Chinese in their character learning. What

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discussion. And even if an article editor decides on which sense of the word is most appropriate by themselves looking at a dictionary, if that dictionary is not then cited, that's again original research. Much simpler, cleaner, more efficient, more accurate to simply link through. --

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The people had all been dead for about 800 years, but whatever. I translated the article from the Chinese version which, unfortunately, does not provide references. I removed some of your reference tags - I think one for every section is a bit much, but there is still one at the

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Please, can someone copy edit this article. I also think you should give top priority on China-Energy relate article. China is the 2nd major energy actor on the world, but we actually lack of articles on these issues. I'm currently writing a very long and well sourced

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and looked it up in wiktionary or other pinyin websites "manually"... Probably I will get the same result of "burning to the touch" and "canine". Eventually somebody will look it up. The wiktionary link save them a step. Eventually the result is the same.

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an entire paragraph showing how it doesn't help. I'd honestly like to see why, and so far you haven't explain it in any of your posts or edit summaries thus far, which leads me to believe that there's no substantial reason to keep the linking. Keep in mind

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commonly used term in English--a romanization of its Cantonese or Mandarin name is used instead. Regarding Wiktionary linking of Chinese names, it is often very useful for our users and again should be discussed before a campaign of deletion is engaged in.

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There are a rather large amount of manga/anime characters of Chinese origin, most of them don't have any sort of Chinese pronounciation listed. The articles on animanga based in China don't even have them, or for various objects of Chinese origin (ie.

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Alright thanks, it seems to work fine for me. I just saw the C-class on the assessment scale and assumed the project used it. I'm not a member of the WikiProject, but just someone who tags talk pages for various projects during New Pages Patrol.

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Pointing out your bad-faith attempt at framing the discussion, and the obvious hostility that your "contributions" page displays, are not personal attacks. Please stop trying to distract from the discussion by claiming you are being "attacked".

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was a name which was rendered from 峰州; but Badagnani used 楓周 instead; and there are alot of article in which Badagnani added wrong Hán Tự but I haven't fixed all. In my opinion, he appeared to love Asian culture a lot but he haven't got a solid

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GraYoshi2x has some good points, but is not really enough to convince me wiktionary links have to be mass deleted. Maybe he convinced me the links are unnecessary to some people. But I would think they are more help than hurt on most pages.

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That would be wrong (pinyin standardized). Cantonese dishes should be named with some cantonese romanization. The large cantonese diaspora found in english-speaking countries also means that many dishes are known by their cantonese names.

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Then that's the site's problem, not Knowledge's. You're saying that we should be the first to mislead a reader, and that's a rather awkward reason... It's our job to make sure the information is accurate; other sites are not our problem.

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And Badagnani, if you're reading this, please stop constantly re-adding links until we've come to at least a vague conclusion. Edit warring over this isn't going to make it end faster, and I want to solve this in a non-disruptive way.

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They do help in a variety of articles, they really do, but I don't see them as very logical from a cuisine standpoint. When you link each individual character you're taking the whole thing out of context, and that's what bothers me.

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looking increasingly likely. As far as "hostile" edit summaries go, I think that is a very odd accusation for you, of all people, to be making. Your hostility here, in edit summaries, on talk pages, is already well established. --

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on Vietnamese articles between Badagnani and Vietnamese editors, so I think the matter should be dealt within the to communities. On the other hand, many of Chinese foods are also adapted or localized in other cuisines such as

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Thank you for creating the article! I got rid of the people section as that isn't sourced and it is about people (I haven't checked to see if they are living or dead) - Other stuff will be tagged for requests for references.

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My opinion: By origin, if that means In-universe Chinese origin, then no, there shouldn't be a Chinese name in chinese characters next to it as the target audience was Japanese/American/other. Perhaps pinyin/pronounciation

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I'm not sure which is the highest-level municipality that contains this village that could use this article as a source. Which article does this source belong in? Would a Chinese village be notable for its own article?

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I would like some opinions on how to name an article on this, in English. Right now, I am tentatively linking it as "Struggles of Niu-Li Partisans," but I am open to (and am requesting) suggestions. --

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Rather than attacking me in a snide tone about what I should have done, not done, etc., do you have anything else to say? Posts like these contribute zero information to the discussion. I also consider

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It is Hālì Bōtè yǔ Bào Zǒu lóng. By the way, there are online Chinese dictionary like the one at www.yellowbridge.com that let you copy and paste characters into it and get the readings.--

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example is rather extreme. I don't know if people correlate/relate contents in the wiktionary page to wikipedia pages like so. After-all we allow wikicommon links for medias too.

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has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. Instead of reviewing by topic, editors can consider picking and choosing whichever articles they are interested in.

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leads to a detailed page about the time when the "Two Chinas" were one, but is often inappropriate in the context the link is used. Also, a less significant problem is linking "

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It depends on the original market and author, not the in-universe status. I don't think the english wikipedia would have the chinese pronunciation otherwise, maybe the zh wiki.

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However, I'm not that knowledge of the Chinese naming convention and MoS, so I don't have any position on the matter. I've seen also many disagreement in using Wikitionary for

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So yes you are bothered by the wiktionary links. There does not seem to be anyone else. Does it mean it should be deleted? I still think it should be kept for convenience.

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chinese name and a south chinese name. It is best to just list as many as possible so the users can find it. About using wiktionary, it should be allowed but not required.

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I need help in translating two names: 張延皎 and 張延襲. How do I transcribe them to English? They were brothers, sculptors and lived in the 10th century. Please also have a look

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both of which seems to name food titles without space, so I'm wondering there is any excetiona naming conventions for such "internationalized foods". Any thought?--

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Several non-Cantonese dishes are also known by Cantonese names because of the diaspora populations in the west consisting of majority Cantonese-speakers...

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By the way, I'm not entirely sure how to accurately translate "株连九族". If anyone has a better idea, please feel free to change the article title. Thanks. --

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Hi, I just reverted a change to the Chinese location maps because it resulted in infobox maps showing wrong positions. For example, the locator map for

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Character sequences for words with a single meaning, often consisting of two characters, seldom three, are written without intervening hyphen or space.

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Have I asked this before? I have the nagging feeling I might have. Any thoughts, suggestions, would be most appreciated. Please join the discussion at

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showed it almost on the border with Mongolia. However, the old locator map looks considerably uglier, so if someone wants to look into it, please do.

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Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects? If so, please provide your input at

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is essentially an American dish best known under that name, not "chaomian" etc. But for those dishes where the most common name is pinyin (

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I have asked the article creator what the article is supposed to refer to. I have not found any reference to this term in relation to the

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The last character is read "lù" in this case, because it is a road. I'm not sure about the first character, but my gut tells me "luō".--

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Hello, I would like to direct your attention to the aforementioned AfD. The article is a terribly obvious propaganda article by

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as "phonetic loan character" but none as "rebus character". In my opinion, "rebus" is OK as an explanation but is practically

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on Chinese/Vietnamese related articles, and naming convention for Chinese foods below examples. One editor in the dispute is

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for further details and instructions in initiating a review. If you'd like to join the process, please add your name to the

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I'm not concerned only with food names but pinyin usage in general. Native knowledge of a language is, to put it bluntly,

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You can kinda guess. I've had plenty of free time lately to write, write, write. Here's another China related article. --

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at the top of the section. The current orthograph/grammar is poor, but when copyedited this article will likely be of

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So the question is whether a bad definition is worse than no definition at all. If I took the chinese character for

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has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A

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It could also be translated as simply "The Niu-Li Faction" (党争 means "faction", according to my online dictionary)--

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page shows you were dead wrong. That's an examination you could (and should) have done yourself. Now you are citing

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Let's look at the basics here. We're discussing links to Chinese characters on English Knowledge pages. This serves

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GraYoshi2x, in a recent edit summary, you cited the rules of pinyin as if you understood them. Examination of the

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Badagnani's addtions of Hán Tự is a good-faith contribution but he sometime added wrong "Hán Tự". For example,

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That's a pretty ugly discussion... Are there also similar discussions dealing with Roman and Greek sources?

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By origin, if that means it's intended audience was in China or creator of series/characters was, then yes.

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It appears to read "臨汪街“ or, in simplified, "临汪街”， which means something like "Overlooking-Water Street".--

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for specific information. At best the recent moves were controversial and should have been discussed. —

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I don't think there can be a fifth tone in the middle of a word like that, so I would say second tone.--

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about the appropriateness of listing mainland China, Hong Kong and Taiwan separately, instead of being

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We really need to make a decision on those wiktionary links. I don't see them as harmful links. That

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Please, help me ! I'm foreigner, and my English is terrible. Please, help me, copyedit one section in

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There seems to be a problem within many China-related articles. Many people add content, then link:

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Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded for Buddha's Birthday (May 2) and Vesak (May 9)

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I am not sure if this article is revlevant for your review, but if it is, please review it for me.

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very hostile edit summaries. If you want to point out mistakes, at least do it in a civil way.

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definitions does nothing to help Chinese learners and most likely only confuses them further.

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negatives, besides the very small increase in page size you mention above, do you percieve? --

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Actually, maybe it is fifth tone. I think the first two characters are a word on their own.--

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them stay deleted until there is a "vague conclusion"? Surely good faith would be to discuss

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The problem is what to link to, i.e. what to call this article. In Japanese, the term 「冊封使」 (

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and I think someone else should go over it before I remove the quality boiler plates there.

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I would say that's even a Northern European bias, since Southern Europeans use olive oil.

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it adds immeasurably to a complete, thorough, encyclopedic understanding of the subject.

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I just prevented the immediate deletion of this article (for the first wife of the poet

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article. (Please edit that article as appropriate, don't just discuss here. Thanks.) --

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aren't considered reasons (and I interpret them to be just plain disruptive editing).

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There is a Mormon temple in Hong Kong. Should the article belong to this WikiProject?

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/List of Chinese music ensembles in the United States

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foundation. If it was another 3rd party dictionary link, it might be a problem.

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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A proposal has been posted for a contest between all 200 country WikiProjects

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or any other native speaker provides, is original research by definition. --

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Also please stop adding Wiktionary linking during this dispute like you did

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yet, and if the author cannot shed light on it, it may have to be deleted.--

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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Alleged fabrication of the Nanking Massacre

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There is an ongoing discussion over the proper wording of this article

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you deleted a bunch of work from articles? Or have I got that wrong? --

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are from Hong Kong. Then, how to pronounce their names in Cantonese?

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http://books.google.com/books?id=pLx66Ql8wyQC&printsec=frontcover

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Thanks, User:Ran says it is fifth tone, so I'm not sure who's right.

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I think Chinese food articles need a consistent naming convention.--

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Hello, there have been some tendentious edit warring over usages of

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is paid attention to, so thought I'd mention this here as well...

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I used the Yellowbridge Dictionary to find the reading of 罗敏申路 (

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Your personal attacks against me isn't helping this discussion.

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I have conducted a reassessment of this article as part of the

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Naming convention for Chinese foods and usages of Wikitionary

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I found a Google Book about Gao Village in Jiangxi Province:

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Could someone create maps for Macau, Taiwan and Singapore?

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says that the most popular name is the correct one, and eg.

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Investiture missions of Imperial China to the Ryūkyū Kingdom

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Biographical Dictionary of the Later Han and Three Kingdoms

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Talk:Buddha Jumps Over the Wall#Due weight to shark finning

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definitions for names that should never be taken literally.

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Hello, can you please tell if the second syllable of 芝麻糊 (

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Investiture envoys of Imperial China to the Ryūkyū Kingdom

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Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects?

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if there is confusion about which name is the most common

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would care to help him it would be greatly appreciated.

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A tempest in a teacup here, but for anyone interested -

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Need translation of Chinese characters in the photo at

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Two major differences are semantics and lexicography.

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A real english name should be first if it exist like

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Hmmm, then perhaps, "Niu-Li Factional Struggles"?--

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