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to the election may include discussing possible candidates, as these unannounced candidates can often exert considerable influence. But I think such speculative statements should be clearly contextualized as speculative, and further should give some indication of both who is doing the speculation. While the sourcing might be somewhat less strict that BLP standards, there still needs to be some standards. That is, random musings by Joe
Blogger should not be acceptable. Partisan rumor mills should also be avoided. Ideally, such speculative statements would have multiple sources (indicating they have reached some level of notability) rather than derived from a single incident. And even better, the text and sources should attempt to present the significance of whether a given individual runs or not, rather then simply presenting isolated mentions that so-and-so might run.
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order of the two major parties is based on the party affilation for the incumbent, or in case of a vacancy, the party of the departed person. That party would be listed first. After the election, the party of the winner would be listed first. As the race progresses, subheadings can be included within the party headings indicating who failed to qualify, withdrew, were defeated in primary (or party convention if that's the case), defeated in primary runoff election, defeated in general election and/or defeated in runoff election. The bulleted candidates' names can also include their home cities, occupations and possibly the fate of their candidacies if the aforementioned fate subheading doesn't prevail, but nothing else. Official campaign websites belong in the external links section of the article.
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And I have removed the single quotes and wrapped the colons in nowiki tags so that they are formatted the way I think you intended... this suggestion is in-line with the way I have tried to format the subeadings (agree that wrapping them in equal sign tags is too much). I always prefered to wrap the
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