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35: 586:, so the topic of greatest interest to readers is how it will turn out, which is inherently speculative. The best way to improve the article would be to increase its analysis of the character, his motivations, and what this is likely to mean for book 7. But that is liable to conflict with the 'rules' of wikipedia. 687:
which is FA despite the fact that new episodes are forthcomming. This was a point raised during the failed FA candidacy and as one reviewer wrote . "Material can become incorporated later. And it's not like any subject is totally static; new developments can occur for just about any article. Besides,
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tempting and objectionable? I still support Harry Potter as a candidate because it's much easier to find scholarly analysis for the general literary stuff than it would be to find it for Lord Voldemort, but maybe we should consider going for and article more detached from the series' text itself like
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Regretablly, the Article Improvement Drive for WikiProject Harry Potter has been a resounding failure. Despite over a year and a half of good faith efforts, the consensus choice of Lord Voldemort, is little more than a plot summary. It is no better today than it was the day it was first nominated. I
159:"Series" should be prosified for moved to the bottom of the page. Better yet would be to simply use {{further|[[:Category:Harry Potter books|Harry Potter books}} (I'm not sure on my coding there), or to generate a comprehensive list of HP media and make an article called "List of Harry Potter Media." 581:
well, this is not simply apathy. An awful lot of people have edited that article in that time, and vandals notwithstanding, I am confident most of them were good faith edits intended to improve the article as that editor saw it. The difficulty is that most people consider how it is now to be pretty
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article for improvement. In my humble opinion, it makes sense that priority number one be the series article itself. It's the most visible article under the project's scope and with its 85 diverse references and A-Class status, I'd say it's the closest to a FAC the project has right now. It needs
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article mostly in the area of liteary analysis (characters, themes, motiffs, structure) and steering clear of OR too. That seems to be all of the articles' biggest problem. In order to bring an article to FA status, perhaps then it would be best to steer away from articles for which OR is too
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Regarding "Reception": "Literary Criticism" could be spun into its own "Criticsm" section, followed by "Controversies," which would include the "Injuction..." (title shortened to "Canadian injunction" or some such). A personal peeve of mine is the use of section headers for small sections, so
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heavy copy editing (mainly for sentence structure and British Spellings), heavy referencing from reliable scholarly sources for the literary stuff, and the destruction of cruftiness and Original Research (which is minimal compared to other HP articles).
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I'd like to nominate this, the series article. It just recently made the good article category (though I'm not sure how long it will last). The Lord Voldemort article doesn't seem as active these days and today the HP article got some good feed back from
153:"See Also": either make the formatting more consistent (and filming locations should not be its own subsection), or simply remove them all and refer to the category. You might also want to consider expanding the navigation box for this purpose. 346:
I decided today I wanted to start work on an article to try and bring it to Featured Status, so I came here, thinking that this page had gone inactive. What I hadn't noticed until now was the apparent consensus for making
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well cited, that is a very very important criteria for Featured Article status. We need to make sure we use the correct inline citation format, and we also need to find references for the assertions of the article.
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I also propose that we use the article Talk page to discuss the text of the article itself, ie "This sentence should not be in" etc., and use this forum to organize and list out what tasks need to be done: ie,
70: 173:, the article name shouldn't be repeated. Something like "Commericial success" would be better. Perhaps you could list how many books, DVDs, games, soundtracks, etc. have been sold. 21: 136:
consider using definition lists or just simple paragraphs to make a long section. The plagarism section could be cut down to two or three sentences and put in the controversy.
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feature status isn't irrevocable." This was before the title came out though, and people might feel different now and there will be added stability questions too.
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3. Copyediting: The article text should be flawless. Personally, I feel I'm a pretty decent copyeditor, so that's something I'll be looking at a lot.
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Please nominate an article you think the Project's members could focus on, to serve as a model article and potential featured article candidate.
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would therefore like to call for new nominations, along with a general recommitment from the project to HP article improvement.
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2. Completeness: Does the article discuss everything that there is to discuss encyclopedically about Lord Voldemort? What
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I'm up for either. Let me know where I should start. And is there a WP page that explains in depth the <ref: -->
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good, and don't see ways to improve it, at least not ways to improve it which can steer clear of OR. This book is
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Can it be FA even though the series isn't finished? Wouldn't that kind of prevent it from being all-inclusive? --
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Sorry, my bad. I was thinking of when we had been talking about getting the Snape article FA'ed. -
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Several users have expressed an interest in trying to improve a Harry Potter related article to a
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The "Other analagous works" section is of dubious value for its length, and the dearth of inline
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Synopses of the plot and major characters are needed, a few paragraphs each should do it. (See
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and it would be great to have some help (or at the very least debate) on these suggestions
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Sounds like a pretty good deal. We've already had one FA so the more can do the better. -
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Well is this still on? I'm up for copyediting and whatnot to get Voldy featured. --
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4. Peer Review: The next step in the process would be submitting the article to
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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5. FAC" Once we've had a Peer Review on the article, take it to
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All right then, Harry Potter would definitely be the easiest.
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1. Citation: I think we need to make sure that the article is
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Eh, it hasnt seen much activity. Personally I'm focusing on
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here's things the article doesn't discuss that it should
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the featured article drive article, and I was thinking
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We've had problems writing the 48:Do not edit the contents of this page. 7: 169:"Harry Potter the Brand": also per 625:I would like to nominate the main 414:research and verify this assertion 143:makes it vulnerable to charges of 28: 693:It's possible, but it's not 100% 291:<Rubs his hands together: --> 33: 288:12:10 (Seattle time) on 8/11/05 1: 750:17:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC) 735:05:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 698:22:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 677:21:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 641:20:06, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 609:23:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 591:12:30, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 576:20:06, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 460:18:39, 21 December 2005 (UTC) 451:19:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 442:11:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 432:05:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC) 334:22:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC) 308:19:02, 14 October 2005 (UTC) 325:09:00, 2 January 2006 (UTC) 299:20:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC) 768: 526:11:57, 18 April 2006 (UTC) 500:03:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC) 486:03:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC) 280:21:10, 5 August 2005 (UTC) 538:Well personally I prefer 271:21:12, 27 July 2005 (UTC) 262:21:08, 23 July 2005 (UTC) 248:16:32, 22 July 2005 (UTC) 236:18:38, 17 July 2005 (UTC) 224:18:55, 14 July 2005 (UTC) 207:14:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC) 252:Second this nomination. 191:07:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC) 418:copyedit this paragraph 106:4 July 2005 15:14 (UTC) 495:, but that's just me. 46:of past discussions. 685:The Wire (TV series) 635:Nominate and Support 87:level of quality. 342:Improvement Drive 145:original research 76: 75: 58: 57: 52:current talk page 759: 719: 661: 547: 541: 518: 478: 319: 85:featured article 67: 60: 59: 37: 36: 30: 767: 766: 762: 761: 760: 758: 757: 756: 717: 659: 623: 568: 566:New Nominations 552:to <ref: --> 545: 539: 516: 476: 344: 317: 93: 81: 63: 34: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 765: 763: 755: 754: 753: 752: 740: 739: 738: 737: 690: 689: 680: 679: 643: 622: 615: 614: 613: 612: 611: 567: 564: 563: 562: 561: 560: 559: 558: 548:(as I used in 531: 530: 529: 528: 503: 502: 467: 466: 465: 464: 463: 462: 377: 376: 373: 370: 367: 364: 349:Lord Voldemort 343: 340: 339: 338: 337: 336: 327: 310: 301: 294:Lord Voldemort 289: 282: 273: 264: 241:Lord Voldemort 238: 226: 209: 196: 195: 194: 193: 181: 180: 179: 178: 177: 176: 175: 174: 167: 160: 157: 154: 151: 137: 130: 129: 108: 107: 92: 89: 80: 77: 74: 73: 68: 56: 55: 38: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 764: 751: 748: 744: 743: 742: 741: 736: 732: 728: 724: 723: 720: 714: 711: 710: 705: 701: 700: 699: 696: 692: 691: 686: 682: 681: 678: 674: 670: 666: 665: 662: 656: 653: 652: 647: 644: 642: 639: 636: 633: 632: 631: 628: 621: 620: 616: 610: 607: 603: 598: 594: 593: 592: 589: 585: 580: 579: 578: 577: 574: 565: 556: 551: 550:J. 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Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Harry Potter
Improvement
archive
current talk page
Archive 1
Archive 2
featured article
Harry Potter
bjwebb
User:Monocrat
WP:FICTION
citations
original research
the MOS
the MOS
TonyJoe
07:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Remus Lupin
Hoekenheef
14:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Sirius Black
Death
phoenix
18:55, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Ginny Weasley
drak2
18:38, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Lord Voldemort
Dmleach
16:32, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

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