798:"They are usually tuned in the bass range" is neither ambiguous nor confusing. Then again, you mentioned getting confused above as well. Hmmm... never mind that, but I really have to question your level of skill with English if you find "adjunct" to be "lofty or obscure". I also note that you use apostrophes to form plural nouns, you use adjectives as adverbs, and you confuse "to" with "too", so you'll have to excuse me if I'm reluctant to take advice from you about writing. Your observations about detachable pedals on electric organs was, on the other hand, a potentially valuable addition to the article. Why not focus on that instead of making questionable quibbles over wording?
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You already gave the reference! You cited a dictionary entry where "tuning" has various meanings. So I edited the article to use a less ambiguous turn of phrase. It's really no big deal. Furthermore, the majority of the analogue bass pedal synths (such as the Taurus) have a knob for "tuning" (= fine
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I refer you to the first part of definition 1, before the word "or", and to definition 4. Apparently, you were only aware of the second part of definition 1, but "tune" was a perfectly good word in this context, and in fact converys more meaning than your choice, "produced" - these pedals could in
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The language is too flowery and makes to many story-telling assumptions (e.g. manufacturers "realised" something, "began" to do something else) - this is not an encyclopaedic style of writing. Vocabulary such as "adjunct" is an overly elaborate way of saying something simple. Also, the useful links
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Nonsense. When a string is first put on an instrument, for example, it is nowhere near the correct pitch. The process of tightening it to bring up the pitch is called tuning even at this stage. It does not start off as something else and become "tuning" only when it gets close. This is why the
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to make it match a reference pitch, or other instruments, or its own other strings/oscillators/etc (as in the "tuned her guitar" example quoted). Since this is the most common sense of the phrase, but not the one intended here (where we are talking about setting the entire pitch register of the
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relisted this at RM. It was listed as uncontroversial, which it obviously is not. Unless and until someone wishes to list it for survey, this is just an informal discussion really. But I personally hope it will go no further. In that case there's no need to close this poll, as it isn't one.
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And a minor quibble: I don't think
Farfisa made electromechanical organs. AFAIK, all their organs had purely electronic sound generation (unlike Hammonds, for example). I'm open to correction on this, but I didn't see anything to the contrary in a quick web search.
696:"adjunct to" - you mean they put 'em on the floor underneath! ;-) Hammond, Farfisa and Vox continental organs all had bass pedals, the Farf & Vox units were often detachable, which led to totally standalone units from other manufacturers.--
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You are confusing me. The terms "a set of bass pedals" and "a bass pedal unit" or "bass pedal synthesizer" are pretty much synonymous. I am not aware of Moog Music Inc calling their instrument "The Taurus Bass Pedal" - that would clearly be
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If you want to quibble over the choice of a word, always check the dictionary first. I won't get into a pissing contest by changing the article back, but please check your facts a bit more carefully before further mutil-, er, editing it.
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fact often produce higher frequencies as well, but were tuned (there's that word again...) by the musician to play in the bass range, which is why those musicians called them "bass pedals". Perhaps that connection eluded you.
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I can't really agree with any of this. Numerous manufacturers produced stand-alone bass pedal units over the years. And MIDI bass pedals are still in production from various companies such as Roland.--
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tuning) and switch for octave transposition (ie overall pitch register). You can turn their "tune" knob to "tune" them to the bass register.--
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Album liner notes were generally written by drug addled hippies who didn't know a "base amp" from a "symfesizer", so I'd pay that no head.--
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