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inferiority and the overcompensation that often ensues. Adler described the complex as arising from the perceived inferiority of an organ or part of the body and leading to feelings of general inferiority. He believed that everyone suffered from inferiority feelings and that the desire or determination to relieve them determined people's behavior. Failure to deal with them could lead to neurotic symptoms.
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would be in scope of "List of people from Croatia"? I'd still slightly prefer the earlier name, "List of Croats" (the article was apparently stealthily renamed a while ago for whatever reason), although my gripe with it was that it never clearly defined the scope of the list (i.e. who is a "Croat"),
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The scope will need cleanup; it is presently explicitly mixing people from Croatia and people who are not from there but identify as of Croatian heritage (what about 1/4 Croatian? 1/16? On the basis of what sources?). The latter is just not an encyclopedic criterion at all and is inevitably going to
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While reading the history of changes of this article I've 'learned' that Leonardo, Michelangello, Napoleon, Brigitte Bardot, Charlie Chaplin ... were Croats. I know there are many editors suffering from the inferiority complex which can be an explanation why all these 'were' Croats. I tried to clean
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Do we construe "Croatian citizens" broadly as not only people who are or were citizens of the Republic of Croatia (1991-present), but also all people who lived and were associated with the same territory? Again, Tesla was strictly speaking never a Croatian citizen, but could be reasonably considered
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Tesla would still qualify, since he was born there. Also qualifies for American lists as a permanent resident and naturalized citizen. Would also qualify for a list of ethnic Serbs, if we wanted such a thing. "List of Croats" has all the problems of "List of Croatians". It's going to be confused a
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as Croats, because it would be easier to get rid of all those nonsense entries, but "self-identified" would inevitably lead into another set of problems, chiefly with sourcing.) The new scope may not necessarily provide an easy way out, but I suppose it's still better than the alternatives. IMO,
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Hi Folks, I have a suggestion that affects the entire list. Given that that the non-Croat (or non-slavic at least) world may not be familiar with Croat names, what do you think of adding a (M) or (F) after each name? I'm half Croatian and grew up with a fair amount of influence from the Northern
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A sense of personal inferiority arising from conflict between the desire to be noticed and the fear of being humiliated. In psychology, a complex, or cluster of repressed fears, described by Alfred Adler based on physical inferiority. The term is popularly used to describe general feelings of
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anyway. Talk pages of articles with ambiguous titles like this show a lot of dispute about inclusion, and it's caused by an impermissibly confused scope and a misleading title. This should move for
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confusion with regard to the new scope is much less likely, but still possible (what precisely does it mean to be "from Croatia"?). However, these things can be stipulated later.
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Do we want to include "Croatian citizens" or just ethnic Croats? (E.g. Nikola Tesla meets the former criterion, but not the latter.) There are arguments in favor of both options.
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the list removing the names which cannot be put on this list(Schwarz - an Austrian Jew, Boscovic - an Italian, Andric - a Serb). Alas, I see the same name back in the list .
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criterion, this definition is not entirely unambiguous, and may be also problematic in some respects. Here are some questions that need to be answered:
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people" pages are being taken one RM at a time, since they vary between labels that are ethnic, national/regional, or both, on a case-by-case basis.
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per nom. As I said, while I still feel "List of Croats" would be ideal, in the real world it devolved into an unfixable mess. (It
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mixture of people who live in Croatia and people with some degree of Croatian ancestry but who have never set foot there.
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