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The Rugby League Record
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The layout of the tables reflect my wish to include additional information. One motivation is that the information is not readily available elsewhere. Whilst the NRL site is the source for the NRLW information, it doesn't provide the information in tables. Similarly, the
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At less realistic idea was to appeal to logic. You make the point that my efforts provide me with no collateral. In that vein, after your edit removed the infobox, another user restored it. So if I must accept your decision to remove it, logically the wishes of another, third user to restore it must
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To counter your point that a tours infobox has been co-opted for q tournament, I thought about creating a specific tournament squads infobox. To counter the point that the infobox is a summary of the information on the page, I would align the two. My worry in spending time to exercise this idea is
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I apologise for not responding sooner. Given my appeal calling out the time spent on the pages was acknowledged, but not to a point where my wishes were respected, I was considering what approach would be most likely to end your antagonism. At times over the weekend, I could think about calmly. At
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page is not appropriate at all (an infobox is supposed to summarise the content of the article, and results don't show up anywhere in this one, so having a results table in the infobox is plain wrong), and frankly, the use of the infobox for the coaches and captains is a little spurious too. You
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