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disambiguaged with a comma (assuming it needed to be disambiguated at al), but the High Island and Hart Island articles should both use the parenthesis form. In fact, I notice that the High Island disambiguation page illustrates this dichotomy quite well; "High Island, Texas" is a community, but "High Island (New York)" and "High Island (Michigan)" are islands.--
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than a neighborhood with no obvious geographic/geologic boundaries. It might be due to the fact that City Island was once a town in Westchester County, before it was part of The Bronx. I can't really say for sure, but it's the way people do it. Doing a goggle search for {"City Island" 10464} will show a plethora of such examples.
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Looking at the article itself, it seems as if it concentrates more on City Island as a community and neighborhood than as a geologic feature. I feel that since it is about the neighborhood, it should take the name "City Island, Bronx", following the almost ubiquitous practice of naming NYC community
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16 May 2006 69.121.69.166 (ur) (last) 15:59, 15 May 2006 69.121.66.87 ((cur) (last) 05:01, 12 May 2006 PZFUN m (moved City Island\(Bronx, NY) to City Island, New York: Maintaining standard for naming.) 16 October 2005 Pacific Coast Highway m (City Island (New York) moved to City Island, Bronx, New
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I'm cool with that idea. In fact, I first got involved here when I noticed that there was no "City Island" article, and I started it (I live there). I entirely missed the fact that there already was a "City Island, New York" (or perhaps, "City Island (New York)" article. Somebody later came along
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is notable enough to get that title all by itself. If it required true disambiguation, it would not become "Long Island, New York" (which has no official meaning in New York state government, U.S Census Bureau, or United States Postal Service, etc.) but would get the parentheses. One reason in favor
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Yes, I'm familiar with the Queens example. That's a good point. The Queens example, I believe, is actually descened from the old town structure of New York state (where "towns" are equivalent to "townships" in most other states). I think at this point the post office doesn't care, because everything
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Although the census bureau (and the USPS) may disagree, it is common usage to write "City Island, NY" in postal addresses. Perhaps this is because all of City Island is served by a single post office, called "City Island Station". Perhaps it's because, as an island, it has more "place recognition"
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Many people on CI do not even know that the body of water between CI and Hart Island is called City Island Harbor and that the waterway that connects Eastchester Bay and Pelham Bay is called The City Island Channel and it is crossed by the City Island Bridge. And now Bronx Borough President Carrion
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parentheses, since it avoids confusion with U.S. cities, and there a quite a few cases where geographic features straddle state boundaries. We have a long-established tradition of U.S. and Canadian rivers and lakes, for example, of using parentheses over the comma. Islands should be the same way,
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One of the final scenes in "Riding in Cars with Boys" (2001) is shot on City Island. It's at a house trailer in a boat yard north of the bridge. Its one of the last scenes. It involves getting a signature on some papers. (I have not seen that movie since 2001. I cannot recall much of the scene
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If there are links for all the yacht clubs then as long as you included all of them there wouldnt be a COI as long as you werent promoting any of them but just listing links. If there is only a link for one of them then this is still the best available information. This would be a benefit to the
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a silly idea, as it is commonplace within urban areas for natural islands to be converted into penninsulas (by filling in with rock and soil) as well as for peninsulas to be cut by canals and thus turned into islands. And in both such cases, there is no clear pattern regarding the naming of such
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A similar thing happens in Queens, where each of the neighborhoods were towns/villages/etc in Queens County before they got gobbled up into "Greater New York". People in Queens still tend to use "Forrest Hills, NY", "Jamaica, NY", "Long Island City, NY", etc, as their postal address, instead of
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That makes sense, but I guess the next question is, "What is the City Island article about?". Is it about the community, or is it about the geographical feature? I think it's really about the community. Given your (quite reasonable) arguments, I'd say that the City Island article should be
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York) 16 October 2005 Pacific Coast Highway (Larry V m (moved City Island, Bronx, New York to City Island (Bronx, NY)) 5 January 2005 . . Rmhermen (City Island, New York moved to City Island (New York)) 21 November 2004 . . Decumanus (City Island, New York moved to City Island (New York))
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an island, with the municipality occupying only a small part of the island. If the island needed disambiguation, it would conflict with the name of the muncipality. In cases where the town occupies the entire island, that is not so bad, but there are exceptions (I know I've run across
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Anyway, I've protected both the article and the talk page against further renames, to avoid this sillyness in the future. If anybody thinks I've acted in error by applying the protection, go ahead and unprotect, but I think that will just be asking for more messes and wasted effort.
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Hmmm. I was just trying to help, but it seems I stepped into a minefield by accident. I saw an inconsistency, asked for advice (on the helpdesk page, which you apparantly saw), and just followed that advice. In fact, I didn't even get a chance to follow the advice,
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unless there is actually a city by the name that is coincident with the island itself. Neither Hart Island or City Island should have the comma, in my opinion, since there is no such municipality as "City Island, New York". If a comma is to be used, it should be
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I've been doing a lot of cleanup on this article lately, but it's mostly copyediting, I haven't been doing anything about verifying facts for the most part. If anybody wants to start tracking down citations for things, that would be a great help!
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City Island, New York → City Island, Bronx – The article is mainly about City Island as a neighborhood, not City Island as a geological feature. Thus, the article should follow the general format for NYC neighborhoods, which is <Neighborhood:
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in New Zealand, and likewise with Great Britain. They never cross national boundaries. That's a guess. All the rivers in North America, on the other hand (of which there are many more articles) take parentheses when requiring disambiguation. --
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All this has left behind a mess of redirects, double-redirects (and probably worse), and a lot of time wasted by everybody involved cleaning up (or leaving broken) all sorts of links. When I looked at this page this morning, I found that the
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By-the-way, when you wrote, "Geographic features, in my opinion, are must better designated by commas", I'm guessing you really meant, "... better designated by parenthesis", since that would fit better with the rest of your statements :-)
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No rabbits here; deer only come once every few years from the park. Wildlife diversity in birds is because the park is part of a major migratory pattern. Monk parakeets no longer here. The wetlands area on west Ditmars is not
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Yeah, a typo. I should avoid editing before coffee :). I meant parentheses, which is a harder word to type. In any case, don't feel bad. This is definitely something that should be debated, so it's good to get it out in the
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Since I actually live in the Bronx I understand and share Decumanus's sentiments. But I think the article and Talk should be renamed 'City Island (Bronx, NY)' and have done with, as it is more accurate and less confusing.
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have a comma because of what they are, even when they don't require disambiguation. Cities in the U.S. are like this. They always take a comma, even when they don't require disambiguation. Even if there is only one
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This page has gone back and forth a few times between being called "City Island, New York", and "City Island (New York)". Please leave the title in the comma style, as that is the wikipedia preferred style. See
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I'm a newcommer here. The last thing I want to do is get involved in a religious war between two old-timers, so I'm bowing out of this until you two can agree between yourselves what's right and what's wrong.
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I have to take new ones! There are many down by the Cemetary Beach living in the rip rap wall! They measure that long from nose to tail! They are an ugly grey pink and frighteningly big! They are nocturnal.
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How do Long Island sound currents affect waters around City Island? Where do currents meet? Does the East River current meet on the western shore of City Island and drop its stream load? Fay Jordaens
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Mention that August Belmont Jr purchased a franchise for IRT from the owner of the Pelham Bay Park and City Island Railway; he was the one who built the monorail and purchased a great many acres on City
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Astor and Morgan came to City Island because of their boats. Hearst may or may not have been here; August Belmont Junior bought up a lot of land here, which was auctioned off after his death in 1924.
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except that I clearly recognized the location as being on City Island.) The Internet Movie Database at IMDB.org confirms City Island as a location for this film, so this is not "original research".
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This page has keeps getting renamed and one person after another comes along and decides they have a better idea of what it should be called. Rummaging through the logs, I came up with:
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Resort taken over by the Collis P. Huntington Estate in 1900; rented to hotels, restaurants and then sold to the Morris Yacht Club when Robert Moses kicked it out of Pelham Bay Park.
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Mention somewhere that although many hundreds of boats were built or rebuilt on City Island since 1860, the boatyards did not retool for fiberglass and the business went elsewhere.
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It's worth noting that, in true geek form, it seems like the debate about what piece of punctuation to use in the article title has taken up more space than the article itself :-)
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articles in the form of "Neighborhood, Borough". Also, it is not as if the page is being constantly renamed, day after day. The move operations are taking place months apart. —
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take a comma should not take one when they require disambiguation. Islands are like this. When an island doesn't need disambiguation, it normally just stands on its own, like
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puts it into the false representation as a census-designated place in the United States, which it is not. "City Island, New York" is simply unacceptable by that standard.--
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All of the exterior scenes for The Family series, produced and written by Jenna Bans (of Grey’s Anatomy and Desperate Housewives) were filmed at Delmour’s Point in 2016.
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Another reason is that sometimes geogrpahical feaures straddle state boundaries in a way that works much better with parentheses that with commas, e.g.
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I strongly disagree. It is not the preferred style, since City Island is not a city. It is an island, that is, a geographic feature. The policy in
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Maybe someone could add a picture or pictures to this page, which would help to illustrate the village like, New England feel of the place. -
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so I'm requesting that some neutral party look at this, decide which is the right course of action, and implement it. Thanks. --
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We'll go with the full comma nabe form, since it's really standard with any other NYC article. If anybody objects, move it back.
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and merged the two into one, using the longer form of the name. All in all, I think the simplier form would make more sense.--
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I pointed out that it is made up of glacial deposits and basically CI and Hart Island is an overgrown Eskers from a Glacier.
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Yes, I agree about the content of the article. That's why overall I'm leaning in favor of the full neighborhood comma form:
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Admission to the Nautical Museum is now $ 8. Mention that P.S. 17 was built in 1898 by NYC (finished before the bridge). √
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Arsenic and Old Lace was not filmed on City Island in 1969. A photo of the Pell house was used in the movie but that’s it.
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At one time attached to the town of Pelham, Westchester County, it is now part of the New York City borough of the Bronx.
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and I suspect I missed a few. I know there were a few "cut and paste" type renames that aren't reflected in the logs.
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City Island was called Minneford Island or Greater Minneford Island after the tribe of Native Americans living on it.
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The island, known as Minnewits, Minneford, Minefer’s, Great Mulberry Island, stayed in the Pell family until 1761. √
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Regarding the terraserver site, if you place the arrow pointer over the area it gives you exact GPS coordinates!
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geographic features; sometimes they're updated, sometimes they're not. I'm going to try to find a better way.
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I know not everyone agrees with this policy as I've outlined it. Naming conventions are all over the map. At
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stepped in and did it for me. I did however follow-up with similar changes to Hart Island, and High Island.
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Only one boat built at Nevins successfully defended the America’s Cup; the other four boats were built at
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the stated approximate length and width of the Island produce an area that is about twice the stated area
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Well, I'll leave it up to you to do what you think is best, but my preferences would be ranked in order:
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City Island’s shipbuilding began much earlier than mid-20 th century; actually began in the 1870s.
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Part of one episode of Nurse Jackie starring Edie Falco was filmed at Delmour’s Point in 2010.
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There are not many large piers around the island; only on the east side and not many of them.
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William Belden was one of the leaders of Black Friday; needs his own entry. Awful man.
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It is a real island in Long Island Sound and it has a real community of @4500 people.
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apply in this case. Geographic features, in my opinion, are must better designated by
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Columbia University sailing team no longer here; nor is the Fordham University team.
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part of the title is inherently part of it, and not really used for disambiguation.
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UK Halsey sailmaker has moved off the island and Doyle is leaving this summer
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Native Americans only lived on the island during the summer, not in winter.
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Palmer changed the name to New City Island and later dropped the “New.” √
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Only two scenes for The Royal Tenenbaums were filmed at Delmour’s Point.
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PS I intend to give CI the very best description on the Internet! LOL!
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An Addition to the list of films which used City Island as a location.
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American Revolution – make a reference to the Battle of Pell’s Point.
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I live there and I have tried to make an accurate description of it.
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wants to protect Audrey the talking Mute Swan from the poachers.
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The Catholic grammar school, St. Mary Star of the Sea closed.
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it is referred to as Greater Minneford Island (City Island)
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Anne Hutchinson did not lead English settlers to the area.
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Holy Rosary academy no longer operates on City Island .√
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This list was compiled by Barbara Burn Dolensek for the
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There are now seven active beekeepers on the island.
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were likely the people who lived near City Island.√
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