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1587:: OK, I am for keeping it the way it is. While I suspect more people drink alcoholic drinks than work in chemistry labs, that doesn't mean that they are so interesting in reading about it here. And even if more do look for a page related to drinking it, they might not be all that interested in reading the page. Note also that alcohol is commonly used for household cleaning and (both ethanol and 2-propanol) for medical uses (that is, rubbing alcohol). And note that this page does cover much of the history of alcohol for drinking. 247: 584: 479: 458: 750: 574: 547: 1069: 301: 1048: 280: 1170: 1149: 1079: 1890: 674: 207: 390: 369: 955: 238: 976: 1830: 1180: 1902: 1865:
I'm not a fond of a particular English variant. If you would like to use British English, I'm OK with that, just change the template and change all the words which differ between the US and the UK English. However, I found out that the article uses mostly US words, so it was easier to change UK to US
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is a link to mainspace pages with wikilinks to the basename. It's sorted by random, so if you refresh, you'll get a new random set. A very high proportion (maybe around 10-20%) of these wikilinks are mistargeted, which is a strong indicator that the current primary topic setup is not working. Making
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A recent edit mentions saturated carbons, and also more than one. I haven't thought about this for a while, but the usual alcohols are on saturated carbons. Reminds me that benyl alcohol, unlike the name sounds, has a carbon between the ring and the OH. There are also diols and triols, with two or
1701:, the titles as-is are correct. "Ethanol for human consumption" is a subtopic, and the common name refers to that ethanol as alcohol in a form of metonymy. (I can't speak to the etymology, I am claiming that is what the words mean today.) As far as the hatnote handles that, I think we are good. 1558:) which lists the various articles related to 'alcohol'. If you think, like Zxcvbnm below, that people are by far most likely looking for the class of chemical compounds and that this is the primary topic, nothing needs to be changed and you should !vote oppose. Thanks! 1530:). To which one of those should readers be directed when typing in 'alcohol' and hitting enter? Some of the !voters here (the ones saying 'retarget to alcoholic drink') seem to be of the opinion that by far the most likely topic people are looking for is 1491:
I suspect that most know that alcohol is a chemical that is also used for drinking. They won't be surprised that the page discusses its chemistry. (On the other hand, it seems that many do not know that water is a chemical.) As long as the
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it's not clear what your opinion is here. We have 4 major articles which people could be looking for when typing in 'alcohol': one on the class of chemical compounds (this one), one on the specific type of alcohol in alcoholic drinks
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the basename a dab will force editors to make a conscious decision about whether they're referring to the class of chemical compounds, or ethanol specifically, or ethanol as a drug, or alcoholic drinks, or something else.
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project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects,
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The result of the move request was: There's no consensus what (if any) the primary topic of "alcohol" is, so the page will be moved off primary and a dab will be placed there.
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Would you mind if I've changed 2 words (catalyse) from UK English to their US English version added the "Use American English" template, in this edit:
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The current primary topic may serve as a broad-concept article on the other hand there are several unrelated uses so a DAB may be better anyway.
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The drink is named after one type of alcohol, so being the base topic where the other meanings originate from, this should definitely be primary.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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You can probably remove semi-protection from this page, now that it's no longer the redirect when you search for "Alcohol".
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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dab. In a situation where we have credible arguments that A is primary and also credible arguments that B is primary, a
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It is not clear that "Alcoholic drink" is the clear primary topic and I oppose moving that to the primary topic.
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both have very good claims (though perhaps the former's claim is somewhat stronger), such that neither is
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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Alcohol_%28chemistry%29&diff=1193270702&oldid=1185209041
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between
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should be added to the hatnote. I think the rest is fine as-is. Just considering the articles
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Anyway, we should have a consistent English version usage, we should not intermix US and UK.
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three OH groups, ethylene glycol and glycerine (1,2,3-propane-triol) being two examples.
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would be the most likely topic of the 4 (which I doubt), it's not
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outcome is all but inevitable. As another piece of evidence,
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