825:
804:
1259:
details of the supposed existence of this individual ring very, very untrue. There are several RS which refer to "Apache" as a legend, particularly the most notable mention of her, the one in the reliable secondary source by academic Jerry
Lembcke, which devotes two pages to the myth. Hopefully someone can look at that and put the story in its correct context. For my two cents, this looks like a US soldier (or US soldiers) attempting to justify their killings of female Vietnamese soldiers and civilians, but we all know what opinions are like.
463:
445:
743:
759:
775:
285:
351:
327:
1472:
war consider these accounts to be untrue" is not supported by
Fracassa's words. Fracassa is giving a LITERARY review of the way women are portrayed in military memoirs, specifically comparing how women are portrayed in Charles Henderson's biography "Marine Sniper" and Clint Eastwood's biographical film "American Sniper" with Nicolai Lilin's fictional work. (And the focus of the paper is on Lilin.)
727:
835:
191:
612:
233:
1149:
article, if all the info in this article is appropriately sourced and not a direct word-for-word copy of any copyrighted material. Is there any copies or close phrasing of other sources, then I'm sure the creator will adjust as needed. I think the objective here should be to assist an inexperienced editor and assist with any needed improvements to this article. (jmho) -
684:
673:
662:
640:
247:
222:
911:
413:
552:
513:
651:
361:
1279:" - Wow. I would strongly encourage you to strike that and apologize. There are many Vietnam vets, their families and such, as well as other vets, that all use WP and could read this page and that take as a slap to the face. We're long past spitting on Vietnam vets at airports, we shouldn't be doing it here either. -
1497:
That is a massive stretch. No historian at all supports the existence of this fictional character, and the
Vietnam War is one of the most closely studied periods of all of history. Fracassa's viewpoint is legitimate as a scholar on cultural representations of the Vietnam War, of which Hathcock's tall
1348:
Well, luckily enough
Fracassa's view of the Apache story is very similar to mine, so there's a happy ending where my opinion above doesn't look out of place. It's perhaps best not to ask people to apologise for saying things that Vietnam vets and their relatives might not like tho...not censored etc.
1471:
After reading
Fracassa's article, " "Etica ed estetica del cecchino nella narrativa di Nicolai Lilin" (or "Ethics and aesthetics of the sniper in the fiction of Nicolai Lilin" in English) this is not a proper source for a historical viewpoint. The statement, "However, academics studying the Vietnam
1451:
Per a recent discussion at the RS noticeboard, I have removed several sources written by non-historians in the style of dramatised military memoirs. I have also removed the use of the
History Channel as a source of information, as HC is not reliable for historical facts. I have also put Hathcock´s
1258:
On this article, all the sources lead back to
Hathcock. I do not doubt that he talked about a character called "Apache" after the war, it may even be that contemporary US Marines talked about a character called "Apache". That isn't really much evidence that such a person existed. Furthermore, the
1148:
It appears that the AfD you're referring to (from 7 years ago), did not result in deletion, but in merge/redirect. It also appears this iteration of the article was submitted to AfC and approved (just 2 weeks ago). Lastly, I'm not sure why an editor needs to prove this isn't a copy of a reddit
1420:
There is evidence that the
Vietnamese committed war crimes, as did the Americans. The type of war crimes that "Apache" was supposed to have committed having been perpetrated against US soldiers? Not so much. If somebody had been out there skinning and castrating GI's, we would have a lot more
1475:
Fracassa is a professor of
Literary Criticism and Comparative Literature, not a historian. They aren't giving any judgment on the veracity of Hathcock's version of events, nor are they providing any historical perspective. Nor are they qualified to give either. (Which, again, they are not.)
1380:" - applies to article content. This is a talk page where some decency and decorum are excpected. Your comments were both provocational and needlessly offensive, hence the suggestion you strike them and apologize. You refuse to do that, so... that's on you. I think we're done here. -
1479:
The comments about
Fracassa should be removed. This also makes me suspicious of the value of including Jerry Lembcke as a source, given that the citation is for a highly controversial book (which Lembcke admits himself in the preface) about Jane Fonda.
766:
531:
1127:
928:
1028:
This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because... (this was also from Military Wiki; Reddit probably copied that from the military wiki, so Reddit should be accused for copyright violation)
750:
527:
153:
1229:
Is there a non-Hathcock based source on this woman? Photos of her, military records, birth certificate, CPV membership? I would love to be proved wrong, but this seems to me like another "Erwin Koenig" story.
1296:
Are you suggesting that Vietnam veterans didn't kill women or they didn't fell guilty about it? The first is better documented than the second, but I reckon both are quite easy to source. Still, not a forum.
1607:
1407:
1210:
935:
782:
535:
955:
There is a long and contentious history of this topic. There have two AFDs with different results. Review of this draft must take that history into account, and the history must be preserved.
1602:
1182:
Well, either they learn the rules and fix the page, or if they perist in violating them, they get blocked. But the fate of that editor and this article needn't necessarily be the same. -
258:. The project works to allow users to contribute quality articles and media files to the encyclopedia and track their progress as they are developed. To participate, please visit the
147:
1552:
427:
625:
602:
564:
1597:
1547:
1406:
Easy to source? There is enough evidence to get the falsehood removed that the VC and NVA did not participate in atrocities, but oddly enough, it is still listed on here.
44:
1592:
611:
1567:
1557:
1587:
1532:
259:
254:
227:
854:, an attempt to create a comprehensive, neutral, and accurate representation of Vietnam on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the
79:
1572:
1133:
Likely the Reddit reused wiki or mirror thereof. But also that means this article is due for deletion if nothing has changed since the deletion discussion.
889:
734:
523:
422:
337:
1582:
592:
379:
559:
518:
1627:
879:
85:
1562:
1542:
1327:. There is also a section on war crimes. If the content on that article is not complete or sourced to your satisfaction, feel free to discuss it
383:
1632:
1622:
1617:
568:
309:
30:
378:, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Knowledge (XXG)'s articles about people. All interested editors are invited to
1577:
1411:
1214:
479:
168:
1612:
1030:
387:
1074:
1006:
374:
332:
135:
99:
1537:
1527:
1311:
I am suggesting that Knowledge (XXG) articles and talk pages are not the place for this kind of discourse. Knowledge (XXG) is not a
104:
20:
1276:
this looks like a US soldier (or US soldiers) attempting to justify their killings of female Vietnamese soldiers and civilians...
1103:
Like I mentioned below, the article went thru it's first AfD 7 years ago. I've since tagged both AfDs on the talk page header. -
1044:
So you need to show the original -wherever it is - has the right sort of copyright notice that allows reuse in Knowledge (XXG).
232:
855:
849:
809:
74:
1091:
1452:
very fishy narrative in as much context as possible, as the best sources on this consider the narrative of Apache to be false.
1245:
There's a dozen sources, none of them are Hathcock. Do you have any sources that state 'Apache' is an apocryphal character? -
202:
470:
450:
65:
974:
In my opinion, although the true Vietnamese name of the subject is apparently not known, and although she does not satisfy
129:
1319:
1498:
story is one. As for Lembcke, it is without doubt the best scholarly source on the page, you seem to be falling foul of
917:
1499:
125:
24:
109:
991:
960:
303:
175:
824:
803:
1203:
The date, 1/1/1936, seems to approximate. There were probably few birth certificates in Vietnam at that time.
208:
190:
1173:
1138:
1049:
1014:
563:. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a
1206:
1165:
1034:
462:
444:
55:
1506:
1457:
1426:
1354:
1302:
1264:
478:
on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
975:
70:
141:
987:
956:
299:
1313:
910:
1231:
1085:
161:
1235:
1169:
1134:
1045:
1010:
1381:
1332:
1280:
1247:
1183:
1150:
1104:
1059:
51:
1502:
1453:
1422:
1350:
1298:
1260:
742:
366:
983:
1485:
979:
758:
1510:
1489:
1461:
1430:
1415:
1392:
1358:
1343:
1306:
1291:
1268:
1253:
1239:
1218:
1188:
1177:
1155:
1142:
1109:
1098:
1078:
1064:
1053:
1038:
1018:
995:
964:
840:
1521:
1128:
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Apache (Viet Cong soldier) (2nd nomination)
1324:
774:
726:
350:
326:
1481:
830:
356:
284:
920:. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:
986:. There is more than a 50% chance that this will survive a third AFD.
246:
221:
551:
512:
386:. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the
475:
412:
1323:. If you're looking for content about the war, head over to →
905:
184:
15:
773:
757:
741:
725:
610:
411:
283:
1122:
This appears to be recreation of previously deleted article
1070:
294:
1168:. History of problems with copyright and attribution.
160:
1608:
Southeast Asian military history task force articles
623:
This article has been checked against the following
474:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
708:
622:
174:
1603:C-Class Southeast Asian military history articles
268:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Articles for creation
33:for general discussion of the article's subject.
1069:I've declined the speedy deletion request. See
8:
1553:Low-importance biography (military) articles
577:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Military history
982:as listed in this draft that she satisfies
767:Southeast Asian military history task force
188:
1598:Asian military history task force articles
1204:
798:
705:
619:
507:
439:
321:
271:Template:WikiProject Articles for creation
252:This article was reviewed by member(s) of
216:
1548:Start-Class biography (military) articles
557:This article is within the scope of the
1593:C-Class Asian military history articles
1408:2600:8805:A985:4300:3905:B1B6:9F63:FD28
1211:2a00:23c4:4e9f:d101:7016:4912:bb40:6241
978:, enough has been written about her by
800:
509:
441:
323:
218:
1568:Start-Class WikiProject Women articles
1558:Military biography work group articles
1376:
1275:
567:. To use this banner, please see the
1588:C-Class biography (military) articles
1533:AfC submissions by date/28 April 2021
927:Merge/Redirect, 19 January 2014, see
580:Template:WikiProject Military history
396:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Biography
7:
468:This article is within the scope of
372:This article is within the scope of
1573:All WikiProject Women-related pages
864:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Vietnam
207:It is of interest to the following
23:for discussing improvements to the
14:
1583:C-Class military history articles
751:Asian military history task force
488:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Women
423:the military biography work group
255:WikiProject Articles for creation
50:New to Knowledge (XXG)? Welcome!
1126:After some digging I found this
909:
833:
823:
802:
682:
671:
660:
649:
638:
550:
511:
461:
443:
359:
349:
325:
245:
231:
220:
189:
45:Click here to start a new topic.
1628:Low-importance Vietnam articles
916:This article was nominated for
884:This article has been rated as
597:This article has been rated as
292:This article was accepted from
1563:WikiProject Biography articles
1543:Start-Class biography articles
399:Template:WikiProject Biography
1:
1633:All WikiProject Vietnam pages
1254:04:54, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
1240:22:44, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
735:Military biography task force
482:and see a list of open tasks.
420:This article is supported by
298:on 28 April 2021 by reviewer
42:Put new text under old text.
1623:Start-Class Vietnam articles
1618:Cold War task force articles
1416:00:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
867:Template:WikiProject Vietnam
560:Military history WikiProject
384:contribute to the discussion
1511:16:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
1490:01:58, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
1007:this 5 year old reddit post
1005:Text seems very similar to
934:Keep, 16 January 2012, see
1649:
1578:WikiProject Women articles
1447:Removed unreliable sources
996:23:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
965:20:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
890:project's importance scale
643:Referencing and citation:
494:WikiProject Women articles
491:Template:WikiProject Women
25:Apache (Viet Cong soldier)
1613:C-Class Cold War articles
1462:07:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
1219:15:13, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
883:
818:
781:
765:
749:
733:
704:
596:
583:military history articles
545:
456:
419:
344:
291:
240:
215:
80:Be welcoming to newcomers
1538:Accepted AfC submissions
1528:Start-Class AfC articles
1431:19:57, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
1393:03:30, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
1359:22:33, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
1344:21:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
1307:19:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
1292:18:26, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
1269:14:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
846:This article is part of
1189:13:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1178:13:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1156:12:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1143:12:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1110:17:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1099:16:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1065:12:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1054:11:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1039:11:23, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
1019:21:07, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
709:Associated task forces:
654:Coverage and accuracy:
1166:User_talk:72.229.7.184
778:
762:
746:
730:
687:Supporting materials:
615:
416:
288:
197:This article is rated
75:avoid personal attacks
1225:Existence of "Apache"
1009:. As in too similar.
970:Further Reviewer Note
777:
761:
745:
729:
614:
415:
375:WikiProject Biography
287:
265:Articles for creation
262:for more information.
228:Articles for creation
201:on Knowledge (XXG)'s
100:Neutral point of view
1073:that existed before
105:No original research
1320:WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS
976:military notability
850:WikiProject Vietnam
785:(c. 1945 – c. 1989)
783:Cold War task force
676:Grammar and style:
629:for B-class status:
1024:Contested deletion
984:general notability
779:
763:
747:
731:
616:
565:list of open tasks
417:
402:biography articles
289:
203:content assessment
86:dispute resolution
47:
1500:Wp:JUSTDONTLIKEIT
1377:Not censored etc.
1317:, nor a place to
1221:
1209:comment added by
1097:
1071:this old revision
948:
947:
944:
943:
904:
903:
900:
899:
896:
895:
797:
796:
793:
792:
789:
788:
700:
699:
656:criterion not met
601:on the project's
569:full instructions
506:
505:
502:
501:
471:WikiProject Women
438:
437:
434:
433:
320:
319:
316:
315:
183:
182:
66:Assume good faith
43:
1640:
1421:evidence of it.
1390:
1387:
1384:
1341:
1338:
1335:
1322:
1316:
1289:
1286:
1283:
1250:
1186:
1153:
1107:
1094:
1088:
1083:
1081:
1062:
1001:Copy/attribution
980:reliable sources
922:
921:
913:
906:
872:
871:
870:Vietnam articles
868:
865:
862:
843:
838:
837:
836:
827:
820:
819:
814:
806:
799:
716:
706:
690:
686:
685:
679:
675:
674:
668:
664:
663:
657:
653:
652:
646:
642:
641:
620:
585:
584:
581:
578:
575:
574:Military history
554:
547:
546:
541:
538:
519:Military history
515:
508:
496:
495:
492:
489:
486:
465:
458:
457:
447:
440:
404:
403:
400:
397:
394:
380:join the project
369:
367:Biography portal
364:
363:
362:
353:
346:
345:
340:
329:
322:
297:
276:
275:
272:
269:
266:
249:
242:
241:
236:
235:
234:
224:
217:
200:
194:
193:
185:
179:
178:
164:
95:Article policies
16:
1648:
1647:
1643:
1642:
1641:
1639:
1638:
1637:
1518:
1517:
1469:
1467:Sources are sus
1449:
1388:
1385:
1382:
1339:
1336:
1333:
1318:
1312:
1287:
1284:
1281:
1248:
1227:
1201:
1184:
1164:Have a look at
1151:
1124:
1105:
1092:
1086:
1079:
1075:the reddit post
1060:
1026:
1003:
988:Robert McClenon
972:
957:Robert McClenon
953:
869:
866:
863:
860:
859:
839:
834:
832:
812:
714:
688:
683:
677:
672:
666:
661:
655:
650:
644:
639:
582:
579:
576:
573:
572:
539:
521:
493:
490:
487:
484:
483:
401:
398:
395:
392:
391:
365:
360:
358:
335:
300:Robert McClenon
293:
273:
270:
267:
264:
263:
230:
198:
121:
116:
115:
114:
91:
61:
12:
11:
5:
1646:
1644:
1636:
1635:
1630:
1625:
1620:
1615:
1610:
1605:
1600:
1595:
1590:
1585:
1580:
1575:
1570:
1565:
1560:
1555:
1550:
1545:
1540:
1535:
1530:
1520:
1519:
1516:
1515:
1514:
1513:
1468:
1465:
1448:
1445:
1444:
1443:
1442:
1441:
1440:
1439:
1438:
1437:
1436:
1435:
1434:
1433:
1372:
1371:
1370:
1369:
1368:
1367:
1366:
1365:
1364:
1363:
1362:
1361:
1226:
1223:
1200:
1197:
1196:
1195:
1194:
1193:
1192:
1191:
1159:
1158:
1123:
1120:
1119:
1118:
1117:
1116:
1115:
1114:
1113:
1112:
1025:
1022:
1002:
999:
971:
968:
952:
949:
946:
945:
942:
941:
940:
939:
932:
914:
902:
901:
898:
897:
894:
893:
886:Low-importance
882:
876:
875:
873:
845:
844:
841:Vietnam portal
828:
816:
815:
813:Low‑importance
807:
795:
794:
791:
790:
787:
786:
780:
770:
769:
764:
754:
753:
748:
738:
737:
732:
722:
721:
719:
717:
711:
710:
702:
701:
698:
697:
695:
693:
692:
691:
680:
669:
658:
647:
633:
632:
630:
617:
607:
606:
595:
589:
588:
586:
555:
543:
542:
532:Southeast Asia
516:
504:
503:
500:
499:
497:
480:the discussion
466:
454:
453:
448:
436:
435:
432:
431:
428:Low-importance
418:
408:
407:
405:
371:
370:
354:
342:
341:
330:
318:
317:
314:
313:
290:
280:
279:
277:
250:
238:
237:
225:
213:
212:
206:
195:
181:
180:
118:
117:
113:
112:
107:
102:
93:
92:
90:
89:
82:
77:
68:
62:
60:
59:
48:
39:
38:
35:
34:
28:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1645:
1634:
1631:
1629:
1626:
1624:
1621:
1619:
1616:
1614:
1611:
1609:
1606:
1604:
1601:
1599:
1596:
1594:
1591:
1589:
1586:
1584:
1581:
1579:
1576:
1574:
1571:
1569:
1566:
1564:
1561:
1559:
1556:
1554:
1551:
1549:
1546:
1544:
1541:
1539:
1536:
1534:
1531:
1529:
1526:
1525:
1523:
1512:
1508:
1504:
1501:
1496:
1495:
1494:
1493:
1492:
1491:
1487:
1483:
1477:
1473:
1466:
1464:
1463:
1459:
1455:
1446:
1432:
1428:
1424:
1419:
1418:
1417:
1413:
1409:
1405:
1404:
1403:
1402:
1401:
1400:
1399:
1398:
1397:
1396:
1395:
1394:
1391:
1379:
1378:
1360:
1356:
1352:
1347:
1346:
1345:
1342:
1330:
1326:
1321:
1315:
1310:
1309:
1308:
1304:
1300:
1295:
1294:
1293:
1290:
1278:
1277:
1272:
1271:
1270:
1266:
1262:
1257:
1256:
1255:
1252:
1251:
1244:
1243:
1242:
1241:
1237:
1233:
1224:
1222:
1220:
1216:
1212:
1208:
1199:Date of birth
1198:
1190:
1187:
1181:
1180:
1179:
1175:
1171:
1170:GraemeLeggett
1167:
1163:
1162:
1161:
1160:
1157:
1154:
1147:
1146:
1145:
1144:
1140:
1136:
1135:GraemeLeggett
1131:
1129:
1121:
1111:
1108:
1102:
1101:
1100:
1095:
1089:
1082:
1076:
1072:
1068:
1067:
1066:
1063:
1057:
1056:
1055:
1051:
1047:
1046:GraemeLeggett
1043:
1042:
1041:
1040:
1036:
1032:
1023:
1021:
1020:
1016:
1012:
1011:GraemeLeggett
1008:
1000:
998:
997:
993:
989:
985:
981:
977:
969:
967:
966:
962:
958:
951:Reviewer Note
950:
937:
933:
930:
926:
925:
924:
923:
919:
915:
912:
908:
907:
891:
887:
881:
878:
877:
874:
857:
853:
852:
851:
842:
831:
829:
826:
822:
821:
817:
811:
808:
805:
801:
784:
776:
772:
771:
768:
760:
756:
755:
752:
744:
740:
739:
736:
728:
724:
723:
720:
718:
713:
712:
707:
703:
696:
694:
689:criterion met
681:
678:criterion met
670:
667:criterion met
659:
648:
645:criterion met
637:
636:
635:
634:
631:
628:
627:
621:
618:
613:
609:
608:
604:
603:quality scale
600:
594:
591:
590:
587:
570:
566:
562:
561:
556:
553:
549:
548:
544:
537:
533:
529:
525:
520:
517:
514:
510:
498:
481:
477:
473:
472:
467:
464:
460:
459:
455:
452:
449:
446:
442:
429:
426:(assessed as
425:
424:
414:
410:
409:
406:
389:
388:documentation
385:
381:
377:
376:
368:
357:
355:
352:
348:
347:
343:
339:
334:
331:
328:
324:
311:
308:
305:
301:
296:
286:
282:
281:
278:
261:
257:
256:
251:
248:
244:
243:
239:
229:
226:
223:
219:
214:
210:
204:
196:
192:
187:
186:
177:
173:
170:
167:
163:
159:
155:
152:
149:
146:
143:
140:
137:
134:
131:
127:
124:
123:Find sources:
120:
119:
111:
110:Verifiability
108:
106:
103:
101:
98:
97:
96:
87:
83:
81:
78:
76:
72:
69:
67:
64:
63:
57:
53:
52:Learn to edit
49:
46:
41:
40:
37:
36:
32:
26:
22:
18:
17:
1478:
1474:
1470:
1450:
1375:
1373:
1328:
1274:
1246:
1228:
1205:— Preceding
1202:
1132:
1125:
1058:See below -
1031:72.229.7.184
1027:
1004:
973:
954:
885:
856:project page
848:
847:
624:
598:
558:
469:
421:
373:
306:
274:AfC articles
260:project page
253:
209:WikiProjects
171:
165:
157:
150:
144:
138:
132:
122:
94:
19:This is the
1503:Boynamedsue
1454:Boynamedsue
1423:Boynamedsue
1351:Boynamedsue
1299:Boynamedsue
1261:Boynamedsue
665:Structure:
199:Start-class
148:free images
31:not a forum
1522:Categories
1314:WP:SOAPBOX
936:discussion
929:discussion
295:this draft
1080:Anarchyte
524:Biography
393:Biography
333:Biography
88:if needed
71:Be polite
21:talk page
1232:Andro611
1207:unsigned
918:deletion
626:criteria
536:Cold War
338:Military
310:contribs
56:get help
29:This is
27:article.
888:on the
861:Vietnam
810:Vietnam
599:C-class
540:C‑class
154:WPÂ refs
142:scholar
205:scale.
126:Google
1482:GlenH
1329:there
528:Asian
485:Women
476:women
451:Women
169:JSTOR
130:books
84:Seek
1507:talk
1486:talk
1458:talk
1427:talk
1412:talk
1355:talk
1331:. -
1325:here
1303:talk
1265:talk
1249:wolf
1236:talk
1215:talk
1185:wolf
1174:talk
1152:wolf
1139:talk
1106:wolf
1093:work
1087:talk
1061:wolf
1050:talk
1035:talk
1015:talk
992:talk
961:talk
382:and
304:talk
162:FENS
136:news
73:and
880:Low
176:TWL
1524::
1509:)
1488:)
1460:)
1429:)
1414:)
1389:lf
1357:)
1340:lf
1305:)
1288:lf
1273:"'
1267:)
1238:)
1217:)
1176:)
1141:)
1130:.
1090:•
1077:.
1052:)
1037:)
1029:--
1017:)
994:)
963:)
715:/
534:/
530:/
526:/
522::
430:).
336::
312:).
156:)
54:;
1505:(
1484:(
1456:(
1425:(
1410:(
1386:o
1383:w
1374:"
1353:(
1337:o
1334:w
1301:(
1285:o
1282:w
1263:(
1234:(
1213:(
1172:(
1137:(
1096:)
1084:(
1048:(
1033:(
1013:(
990:(
959:(
938:.
931:.
892:.
858:.
605:.
593:C
571:.
390:.
307:·
302:(
211::
172:·
166:·
158:·
151:·
145:·
139:·
133:·
128:(
58:.
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.