Knowledge

Talk:Atheistic existentialism

Source đź“ť

726:
but independently arrived at similar ideas, which is how the three of them came to be friends in the first place. Camus did not feel that rejection of a god was a necessary part of the absurd, certainly, but he treated god's absence as a given: "His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land." To say that Sartre never experienced existential angst while Camus did is a very peculiar claim as I imagine almost everyone has experienced it at some stage of their life. Sartre was at times jealous of Camus, who was younger and more attractive, and who politely declined de Beauvoir's advances.
762:
of the early existential thought came from theists, so I don't see a need to seperately define 'atheist' existentialism. I don't see any part of this article covering material that doesn't exist in more advanced articles. So I was wondering if maybe it would be a good idea to either delete this page or merge it with another. I'm not going to start any process just yet, so that people who would like to defend the article needn't feel that it's up against the wall.
74: 53: 650: 634: 22: 682: 536: 505: 546: 761:
I'd also like to question the entire existence of an article that covers "atheist existentialism": The principle figures mentioned are all covered extensively in the articles on existentialism and their own biographies, and existentialism is not implicitly or explicitly theistic simply because some
725:
The page is poorly written and would benefit from substantial editing. There is more opinion here than documentation and the whole thing reads like the essay of a first-year university student. Some of the material is downright questionable: Camus and de Beauvoir didn't follow in the vein of Sartre
976:
I've moved some content around and played with the intro paragraph a bit. Please not that I also changed the heading for "Major Works" to "Notable Proponents" and will be adding a section on Nietzsche and perhaps Simone de Beouvior (pending additional research on her). I intend to address existing
837:
Sartre: expand more on his ideas rather than just a description of the novel Nausea. Potential edit for Sartre section: Jean Paul Sartre’s contribution to atheist existentialism was his idea that “existence precedes essence” (Salisbury source) The concept denotes the idea that the individual must
802:
I will be editing this page to add more information and provide citations. I plan to expand the sections on Sartre and Camus. I may also add a brief section on Nietzsche as well. I'm open to other suggestions as well.
827:
Introduction - provide outline of what atheistic existentialism is not just in relation to its opposite, Christian existentialism. What are the key differences between Kierkegaard's and Sartre's philosophies?
222: 848:
Add to Major Works section - Simone de Beauvoir who is mentioned in the introduction but not listed under major works. Nietzsche who was a major contributor to the discussion of atheistic existentialism.
691:
in Spring 2015. Further details were available on the "Education Program:California State University, Channel Islands/Ethics for a Free World (Spring 2015)" page, which is now unavailable on the wiki.
977:
areas where citations are needed and original work is suspected. I also hope to add more bulk to the "Thought" section. Please let me know if you have any suggestions/concerns with what I am doing.
781:
To be honest, I mostly wanted to write about the work of Evan Fales, but found this page was quite poorly written and redundant. As a result I have made very many changes. I hope no one minds!-
1172: 1157: 838:
exist and live to, afterwards, define himself and his existence. Inversely, man cannot define, categorize, or label (essence) himself without first coming into existence. Source:
1167: 1152: 1177: 1162: 912:
Leiter, Brian, "Nietzsche's Moral and Political Philosophy", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2015 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), forthcoming URL = <
567:
on Knowledge. If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the
446:
needs a reassessment of its Importance level, as it has little to do with atheism and is instead an article about anti-theist/anti-religious actions of governments.
1070: 1066: 1052: 855:
Provide citations where requested in existing article or edit according to newly acquired source citations. Remove or edit sections listed as original research.
657: 519: 234: 1147: 604: 594: 391: 641: 515: 890:
Brown, Jr., Stuart M. "The Atheistic Existentialism of Jean-Paul Sartre," The Philosophical Review, Vol. 57, No. 2 (Mar., 1948), pp. 158-166. Print.
1142: 1137: 366: 165: 124: 114: 944:
Varga, Somogy and Guignon, Charles, "Authenticity", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall 2014 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
171: 1018: 893:
Crowell, Steven, "Existentialism", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2015 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), forthcoming URL = <
384: 298: 1132: 928:
Smart, J. J. C., "Atheism and Agnosticism", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
569: 763: 936:
Smith, David Woodruff, "Phenomenology", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
920:
Metz, Thaddeus, "The Meaning of Life", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Summer 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
326: 312: 227: 160: 952:
Wicks, Robert, "Friedrich Nietzsche", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2014 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
882:
Bergoffen, Debra, "Simone de Beauvoir", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall 2014 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
155: 90: 901:
Flynn, Thomas, "Jean-Paul Sartre", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Fall 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
874:
Aronson, Ronald, "Albert Camus", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Spring 2012 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.), URL = <
559: 510: 909:
Griffin, James T. "Existentialism: The Atheistic Thread," Philippine Studies, Vol. 8, No. 1 (January, 1960), pp. 75-81. Print.
750: 199: 734:
He was a contemporary of Kierkegaard and provided the foundation for Sartre, Camus, and all other atheist existentialists.
688: 330: 305: 279: 182: 143: 81: 58: 1113: 341: 33: 334: 204: 176: 1069:
to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
913: 1002: 767: 187: 21: 1019:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090430123712/http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org:80/existentialism-theory-faq.htm
1104: 1010: 193: 929: 429: 1088:
If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with
1076: 39: 1009:. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit 1043: 894: 789: 738: 945: 937: 984: 962: 921: 862: 810: 742: 703: 351:
by checking whether ] has been added to atheism-related articles – and, where it hasn't, adding it.
292: 1022: 831:
Thought - expand in greater detail, perhaps make connections between existentialism and nihilism.
89:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
746: 711: 465: 210: 1073:
before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template
953: 883: 1089: 839: 902: 551: 875: 477: 348: 1096: 340:
Add Atheism info box to all atheism related talk pages (use {{WikiProject Atheism}} or see
295:
to your page ({{User WikiProject Atheism}} or {{User WPA2}}) and attract potential members.
782: 1055:, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by 980: 958: 858: 806: 362: 283: 1095:
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with
649: 633: 73: 52: 1126: 707: 453: 443: 372:
Try to expand stubs. Ideas and theories about life, however, are prone to generating
1118: 988: 966: 866: 814: 792: 771: 754: 715: 449: 377: 1062: 406: 1061:. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than 702:
This article discusses Sartre as being part of the "early modern period", but
564: 541: 914:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/spr2015/entries/nietzsche-moral-political/
681: 373: 142:
If you would like to participate, you can edit this article and visit the
930:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/spr2013/entries/atheism-agnosticism/
563:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of content related to 471: 86: 535: 504: 136:
For more information and how you can help, click the link opposite:
895:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/spr2015/entries/existentialism/
946:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/fall2014/entries/authenticity/
938:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2013/entries/phenomenology/
922:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/sum2013/entries/life-meaning/
480:
defines it as a being restricted to America in the 21st century.
1023:
http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/existentialism-theory-faq.htm
676: 15: 954:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2014/entries/nietzsche/
884:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/fall2014/entries/beauvoir/
845:
Camus: include more detail on what is meant by "the absurd."
1028:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
840:
http://faculty.salisbury.edu/~jdhatley/101EXISTENTIALISM.htm
648: 632: 903:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/fall2013/entries/sartre/
1013:
for additional information. I made the following changes:
325:
Use a "standard" layout for atheism-related articles (see
876:
http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/spr2012/entries/camus/
1006: 267: 262: 257: 252: 706:
is usually used for a considerably earlier period. --
85:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 1065:using the archive tool instructions below. Editors 615: 376:, so some stubs may be suitable for deletion (see 361:Find sources for all positions of an article (see 347:Ensure atheism-related articles are members of 1173:Mid-importance Continental philosophy articles 1158:Mid-importance philosophy of religion articles 1051:This message was posted before February 2018. 871:Proposed Bibliography (subject to revision): 8: 1168:Start-Class Continental philosophy articles 1153:Start-Class philosophy of religion articles 235:Articles recently added to Category:Atheism 19: 1178:Continental philosophy task force articles 1163:Philosophy of religion task force articles 1001:I have just modified one external link on 612: 499: 132: 47: 501: 49: 573:about philosophy content on Knowledge. 1040:to let others know (documentation at 7: 557:This article is within the scope of 166:Links to atheism-related information 79:This article is within the scope of 687:This article was the subject of an 38:It is of interest to the following 1148:Mid-importance Philosophy articles 14: 1005:. Please take a moment to review 680: 579:Knowledge:WikiProject Philosophy 544: 534: 503: 385:list of atheism-related articles 72: 51: 20: 1143:Start-Class Philosophy articles 1138:Mid-importance Atheism articles 599:This article has been rated as 582:Template:WikiProject Philosophy 119:This article has been rated as 716:21:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC) 1: 815:21:10, 26 February 2015 (UTC) 777:Many changes and improvements 172:List of free online resources 99:Knowledge:WikiProject Atheism 93:and see a list of open tasks. 1133:Start-Class Atheism articles 1119:14:58, 20 October 2016 (UTC) 418:Articles on notable atheists 102:Template:WikiProject Atheism 1194: 1082:(last update: 5 June 2024) 998:Hello fellow Wikipedians, 989:05:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC) 967:05:57, 13 April 2015 (UTC) 793:21:14, 13 April 2011 (UTC) 605:project's importance scale 456:: discuss whether you are 125:project's importance scale 867:01:51, 2 March 2015 (UTC) 755:01:53, 24 June 2010 (UTC) 656: 640: 611: 598: 529: 392:write for an encyclopedia 131: 118: 67: 46: 1003:Atheistic existentialism 772:04:44, 19 May 2010 (UTC) 280:Join WikiProject atheism 156:Project's main talk page 994:External links modified 616:Associated task forces: 387:and add to accordingly. 200:About original research 689:educational assignment 658:Continental philosophy 653: 642:Philosophy of religion 637: 560:WikiProject Philosophy 470:Clarify references in 177:Writing about religion 28:This article is rated 721:Quality and relevance 652: 636: 331:"The perfect article" 228:the "Atheism" article 1063:regular verification 1053:After February 2018 1032:parameter below to 698:early modern period 585:Philosophy articles 437:Immediate attention 401:Articles to improve 311:Help out with this 183:Article development 82:WikiProject Atheism 1107:InternetArchiveBot 1058:InternetArchiveBot 654: 638: 570:general discussion 367:atheism references 299:Help with articles 34:content assessment 1083: 758: 741:comment added by 695: 694: 675: 674: 671: 670: 667: 666: 663: 662: 552:Philosophy portal 498: 497: 494: 493: 490: 489: 486: 485: 356:Maintenance, etc. 335:Featured articles 304:See this month's 205:Assume good faith 194:Verifying sources 1185: 1117: 1108: 1081: 1080: 1059: 1047: 820:Proposed Changes 786: 757: 735: 684: 677: 623: 613: 587: 586: 583: 580: 577: 554: 549: 548: 547: 538: 531: 530: 525: 522: 507: 500: 478:Secular movement 474:using footnotes. 378:deletion process 306:adopt-an-article 243: 242: 133: 107: 106: 105:Atheism articles 103: 100: 97: 76: 69: 68: 63: 55: 48: 31: 25: 24: 16: 1193: 1192: 1188: 1187: 1186: 1184: 1183: 1182: 1123: 1122: 1111: 1106: 1074: 1067:have permission 1057: 1041: 1011:this simple FaQ 996: 974: 834:Major Works - 822: 800: 798:Editing Planned 784: 779: 736: 732: 723: 700: 621: 584: 581: 578: 575: 574: 550: 545: 543: 523: 513: 430:an atheism stub 272: 240: 239: 217:Recent activity 104: 101: 98: 95: 94: 61: 32:on Knowledge's 29: 12: 11: 5: 1191: 1189: 1181: 1180: 1175: 1170: 1165: 1160: 1155: 1150: 1145: 1140: 1135: 1125: 1124: 1101: 1100: 1093: 1026: 1025: 1017:Added archive 995: 992: 973: 972:Recent Changes 970: 844: 821: 818: 799: 796: 778: 775: 764:203.217.150.69 731: 728: 722: 719: 699: 696: 693: 692: 685: 673: 672: 669: 668: 665: 664: 661: 660: 655: 645: 644: 639: 629: 628: 626: 624: 618: 617: 609: 608: 601:Mid-importance 597: 591: 590: 588: 556: 555: 539: 527: 526: 524:Mid‑importance 508: 496: 495: 492: 491: 488: 487: 484: 483: 482: 481: 475: 468: 447: 433: 432: 422: 420: 419: 410: 409: 397: 396: 395: 388: 381: 370: 363:Citing sources 353: 352: 345: 338: 317: 316: 309: 302: 296: 274: 273: 271: 270: 265: 260: 255: 249: 247: 241: 238: 237: 232: 231: 230: 214: 213: 202: 188:Citing sources 185: 174: 163: 161:Article layout 158: 149: 148: 138: 137: 129: 128: 121:Mid-importance 117: 111: 110: 108: 91:the discussion 77: 65: 64: 62:Mid‑importance 56: 44: 43: 37: 26: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 1190: 1179: 1176: 1174: 1171: 1169: 1166: 1164: 1161: 1159: 1156: 1154: 1151: 1149: 1146: 1144: 1141: 1139: 1136: 1134: 1131: 1130: 1128: 1121: 1120: 1115: 1110: 1109: 1098: 1094: 1091: 1087: 1086: 1085: 1078: 1072: 1068: 1064: 1060: 1054: 1049: 1045: 1039: 1035: 1031: 1024: 1020: 1016: 1015: 1014: 1012: 1008: 1004: 999: 993: 991: 990: 986: 982: 978: 971: 969: 968: 964: 960: 956: 955: 950: 947: 942: 939: 934: 931: 926: 923: 918: 915: 910: 907: 904: 899: 896: 891: 888: 885: 880: 877: 872: 869: 868: 864: 860: 856: 853: 852:Minor Edits: 850: 846: 842: 841: 835: 832: 829: 825: 824:Major Edits: 819: 817: 816: 812: 808: 804: 797: 795: 794: 791: 788: 787: 776: 774: 773: 769: 765: 759: 756: 752: 748: 744: 740: 730:No Nietzsche? 729: 727: 720: 718: 717: 713: 709: 705: 697: 690: 686: 683: 679: 678: 659: 651: 647: 646: 643: 635: 631: 630: 627: 625: 620: 619: 614: 610: 606: 602: 596: 593: 592: 589: 572: 571: 566: 562: 561: 553: 542: 540: 537: 533: 532: 528: 521: 517: 512: 509: 506: 502: 479: 476: 473: 469: 467: 463: 459: 455: 454:False dilemma 451: 448: 445: 444:State atheism 442: 441: 440: 439: 438: 431: 428: 427: 426: 425: 417: 416: 415: 414: 408: 405: 404: 403: 402: 398: 393: 389: 386: 382: 379: 375: 371: 368: 364: 360: 359: 358: 357: 350: 346: 343: 339: 336: 332: 328: 324: 323: 322: 321: 320:Be consistent 314: 310: 307: 303: 300: 297: 294: 290: 289: 288: 287: 285: 281: 276: 275: 269: 266: 264: 261: 259: 256: 254: 251: 250: 248: 245: 244: 236: 233: 229: 226: 225: 224: 223:Core articles 221: 220: 219: 218: 212: 209: 206: 203: 201: 198: 195: 192: 189: 186: 184: 181: 178: 175: 173: 170: 167: 164: 162: 159: 157: 154: 153: 152: 147: 145: 140: 139: 135: 134: 130: 126: 122: 116: 113: 112: 109: 92: 88: 84: 83: 78: 75: 71: 70: 66: 60: 57: 54: 50: 45: 41: 35: 27: 23: 18: 17: 1105: 1102: 1077:source check 1056: 1050: 1037: 1033: 1029: 1027: 1000: 997: 979: 975: 957: 951: 943: 935: 927: 919: 911: 908: 900: 892: 889: 881: 873: 870: 857: 854: 851: 847: 843: 836: 833: 830: 826: 823: 805: 801: 783: 780: 760: 733: 724: 701: 600: 568: 558: 461: 457: 450:False choice 436: 435: 434: 423: 421: 412: 411: 400: 399: 355: 354: 327:layout style 319: 318: 278: 277: 216: 215: 207: 196: 190: 179: 168: 150: 144:project page 141: 120: 80: 40:WikiProjects 1044:Sourcecheck 737:—Preceding 520:Continental 464:this merge 407:Agnosticism 30:Start-class 1127:Categories 1114:Report bug 576:Philosophy 565:philosophy 511:Philosophy 383:Watch the 374:neologisms 313:to-do list 151:Quick help 1097:this tool 1090:this tool 981:Wikiriker 959:Wikiriker 859:Wikiriker 807:Wikiriker 785:Tesseract 704:that term 1103:Cheers.— 751:contribs 743:X Trev x 739:unsigned 708:Delirium 516:Religion 342:info box 211:Be civil 1030:checked 1007:my edit 603:on the 472:Atheism 462:against 390:Always 349:Atheism 293:userbox 284:be bold 258:history 123:on the 96:Atheism 87:atheism 59:Atheism 1038:failed 790:(talk) 424:Expand 413:Create 291:Add a 246:To do 36:scale. 948:: --> 940:: --> 932:: --> 924:: --> 916:: --> 905:: --> 897:: --> 886:: --> 878:: --> 452:into 268:purge 263:watch 1034:true 985:talk 963:talk 863:talk 811:talk 768:talk 747:talk 712:talk 466:here 365:and 333:and 282:and 253:edit 1071:RfC 1048:). 1036:or 1021:to 949:. 941:. 933:. 925:. 917:. 906:. 898:. 887:. 879:. 595:Mid 460:or 458:for 115:Mid 1129:: 1084:. 1079:}} 1075:{{ 1046:}} 1042:{{ 987:) 965:) 865:) 813:) 770:) 753:) 749:• 714:) 622:/ 518:/ 514:: 380:). 369:). 337:). 329:, 146:. 1116:) 1112:( 1099:. 1092:. 983:( 961:( 861:( 809:( 766:( 745:( 710:( 607:. 394:. 344:) 315:. 308:. 301:. 286:. 208:· 197:· 191:· 180:· 169:· 127:. 42::

Index


content assessment
WikiProjects
WikiProject icon
Atheism
WikiProject icon
WikiProject Atheism
atheism
the discussion
Mid
project's importance scale
project page
Project's main talk page
Article layout
Links to atheism-related information
List of free online resources
Writing about religion
Article development
Citing sources
Verifying sources
About original research
Assume good faith
Be civil
Core articles
the "Atheism" article
Articles recently added to Category:Atheism
edit
history
watch
purge

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.

↑