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Praimnath's story a million times, I can recite it as if I was actually there. Both of the men have done multiple video interviews where they tell their story and I have watched all of them and this is exactly what they say in all of them. It might be a little "wordy" but considering the whole notability of Clark is in reference to 9/11, it seems okay to me to elaborate a little more on his story of the day. However I stopped at the descent section, if I get some time I might work on that as well.
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BLP1E doesn't mean we aren't allowed to have biographical articles on people only known for their involvement in one event. It means such articles need to be examined carefully. In this case, although Brian Clark's 'notability' relates to the events of one day, it's clear that he has been the subject
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The article states that a roof rescue was 'impossible', but there's no cite for this statement/paragraph. It's a matter of fact that there was a helipad on the roof, therefore it is reasonable to suppose that nothing prevented a landing during normal conditions. With regard to the smoke and updraft,
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I made some rather drastic changes and additions to the articles body. I had trouble making the old reference work, but if someone wants to add more references, or requests that I do it, then let me know. But I promise you everything I added is true and can be referenced. I have heard Clark's and
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While it's true to say that the combined circumstances of locked roof doors, confusion, and lack of available helicopters or prior planning made such rescue attempts difficult, they were not 'impossible'. I've removed references to 'impossible' until proper cites can be provided.
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Ah, yes, I see that deletion discussion now--thanks for pointing it out. I guess this is just one of those cases where something is so blindingly obvious to me, but others disagree. Guess I'll just take this off my watchlist so it doesn't irritate me :).
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for the same reasons as Calidum - he is not noted as a businessman, he is noted because of the 9/11 connection. However, I don't see the reason to remove "attacks" from the disambiguator. The article itself is called
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of continuing media coverage and attention in the years since. That makes him worthy of inclusion. Furthermore, this article was considered for deletion
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the proposal since he is primarily know as a 9/11 survivor. I would suggest we retitle it (September 11 survivor) instead.
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in the title, because it just does not sound right. Thanks for your feedback.
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an approach from the windward side would have been fairly straightforward.
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Can someone please explain why this isn't obviously deletable under
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