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share attrition rate of IE is also a fact of life that is even more prominant in the article. This much is neutral. However, the author blames Microsoft for doing things to cause the demise of Netscape. Is that neutral? Netscape failed to adhere to external specifications (such as CSS), and that and not Microsoft is what ultimately sent them packing. Ultimately it is the issue of standards compliance in particular, which is driving the present attrition rate of IE's market share, because developers are realising that their market share depends a great deal on coverage - and coverage is governed by standards. To me, this is neutral. To someone with an axe to grind, it may be positively actionable. This leaves of with the question of factual accuracy. When an article is reduced to the bare facts, with neither omission, repetition, nor spin, it cannot be other than neutral, no matter who or how many claim it isn't.

1041:, I and others need to discuss the best way to include comments made fairly widely, and exemplified by geeksmack.net, regarding the very temporary 'dethroning' of 'Microsoft and IE7' recently. The article makes it clear that this was temporary and was due to easily explicable factors, but I still think it makes a good point about the current 'browser wars' that these points are still being amplified and echoed around the web. If they don't think that the point is made fairly (and I have moved it closer to the exact wording in that source today) then this is the place to discuss what they see as the problem and what to do about it; not by starting a revert war. 896:

depend on browser specific bugs. Non-Microsoft browsers that do not check the Windows Internet Security settings in the registry prior to turning on Java and plug-ins also demonstrate serious security flaws that result from a failure to fully comply with external specification. There is plenty of blame for all concerned. Security issues have more to do with the fact that today's developer's are far too arrogant to check to see if what they are doing has been done before and find our what the problems were - before going ahead and repeating the screw-ups of history for the umpteen-millionth time...

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above. Moreover, this major security hole constitutes the worst of the browser wars legacy. It is a veritable unexploded shell that remains buried in every browser on the market. On the Windows operating system, this problem is controlled by the appropriate setting of the Windows Internet Security Settings. Sadly, to date, only Internet Explorer complies with these settings. It is a verifiable fact that none of the other browsers check these setings before enabling Java, JavaScript, and plug-ins on installation.

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features. Also 60 % in 2017 is a bigger achievement than IE's 90 % in 2001, in 2017 a lot more countries and a larger population over the world had access to the internet compared to 2001. Despite Chrome being the clear winner it lacks sufficient focus unlike with IE the winner of the first war. More information on Chrome's success should have been included on the second war section. The least I could do was to add a picture of Chrome.

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following section, 'In development'. This article is not a place for browsers to advertise and provide links to their latest releases. Unless someone can improve the sections, and convince me otherwise, I intend to remove these sections soon. I may try to find something about a purported browser war for HTML5 going on now, to replace the lists, but I'd appreciate some help finding such a

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Web for what widely read sources say about it, I guess -- but clearly IE9 is *something*, certainly as much of a notable event as the IE7 to IE8 upgrade. The prerelease history of other browsers is noted (e.g., "In 2003, Apple had begun work on a new browser...") so the fact that IE9 isn't a final release doesn't mean we can't mention Microsoft's work so far.

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Internet Explorer" — if you took this article as written then you'd believe that web browsers are sentient. In addition, the whole thing seems to be written by someone with an adolescent obsession with military metaphors and is full of self-repetitious sentences like "In 1993 more browsers were released - Cello, Arena, and Lynx also came out. " —

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IMO, it reflects what browsers people use. Someone may use Internet Explorer at home for 90% of their browsing, but Firefox at work. If you try to measure users, you presumably give them both 1 "user" point, which doesn't seem like a good idea (although conversely, you could argue them to be separate

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I readded the tag for the pre browser wars/mosaic wars. This section tag may be incorrect, but the fact is there: totally the story is missing, there was a mosaic war (and it was so called!), there were ~120 mosaic derivates (and one won: netscape) and so on. I think that I was the previously tagging

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Honestly, the content of this article is such that it is nearly impossible to talk in neutrality. Everybody has their opinion on this subject, and it is pretty much impossible to set aside your prejudices, no matter how hard you try. It seems that the person that wrote this article is clearly pro-IE.

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The article seems sort of biased favoring Firefox and over emphasizing its achievements in the second browser wars, even adding picture of Firefox's search engine. Chrome entered later in 2008 but by 2012 overtook Firefox as the dominant browser yet little emphasis have been given on its success and

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No, they aren't misnumbered, the truth is that there were no Mosaic wars but only incruent confrontations among first browsers who struggled a bit to demonstrate their best; the fact that, till 1995, behind these products there was no big private Company but only research organizations, universities

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With the current running of ads by Google on major programs in America such as American Idol and 60 Minutes it seems to me like Google has become more aggressive in their goal of having people using Chrome. Although I know I might sound very POV, isn't it possible that we are seeing the beginning of

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section is now anti-IE, as it has omits any mentions of Netscape's frequent crashes, buggy features, and inability to adopt new standards like CSS. Instead it blames the problem on Microsoft's dominance in the OS market and resources, and allocates 1/4 of the section to the anti-trust court case. It

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Well, if s/he\it spent half the article complaining about IE's dominance, or on the other hand lauding IE for it's dominance, that would not be neutral. Netscape self destructed and a rather singed Mozilla emerged from the flames. That IE became dominant in the meantime is a fact of life. The market

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The second browser war is about the slow decline and death of IE at the hands of a group of smaller W3C standards-compliant browsers. The current period is distinctly different: no small browser engines like Presto remain, IE is nowhere to be seen and instead there is fierce competition between the

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I made a small change to one of the sections in the article. The rest of the section is a chronological list of events, starting with the date they happened. The apple part started with a date in non-chronological order, so i moved the relevant,chronologically correct, date to the beginning of that

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Also, the current material which is considered pro-IE is not very opinionated, that is, it doesn't move particularly far beyond what the statistics say. If you put in more facts about strong pro-Firefox opinions, along with more pro-Firefox references, that would be giving undue weight to Firefox,

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I disagree. I think that of course google is trying to make theirs the most used browser. It may not be their explicit and stated goal, but still, as it said in TechRepublic, they don't want to rely on the continued goodnature of IE and Mozilla. Google would be ecstatic if everyone on earth used

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Someone reverted my edit, and i do understand and agree with their rationale. Instead of my edit, would someone who has a bit more time on their hands mind changing the phrasing of that apple related part? I get that it flows better the other way, and I still think it feels weird jumping to a 2002

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Internet Explorer 9 seems relevant to the Second Browser Wars section. To me, it more or less represents Microsoft's effort to match the technical progress the other browser vendors and WHATWG have made. That might not be the neutral, non-original-research phrasing of it -- I'd have to scour the

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I think that rather thank hog-binding the wording in the article to that in that one source, we should give a better impression of how this brief event was reported more widely, maybe by finding other sources and agreeing a more general (though admittedly partisan) wording. The whole point about a

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The spread of worms is facilitated most by allowing applications to masquerade as documents. Most exploits are based on the inability of users to quarantine active content prior to scanning for viruses as virus scanners only work if the virus is old enough to be catalogued. Few worms by comparison

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From where I'm sitting, hyperbole is just one of the symptoms of this thing being written as though it were some sort of hagiography that's just poorly constructed all around. From the introduction: "the competition between market-dominating Netscape Navigator and its eventual defeat by Microsoft

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Despite Internet Explorer's ubiquity, its lack of updates and its integration into the operating system; additional problems due to browser specific security holes remain statistically insignificant in comparison to the sheer number of successful attacks via the Active Content Exploit described

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in its present form. It appears simply to be a list of version numbers and release dates for various browsers. Without some well-sourced prose about the subject of the title, and some narrative for the reader to follow, there is no purpose to this in this article. I think the same goes for the

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During December 2009 and January 2010, StatCounter reported that its statistics indicated that Firefox 3.5 was the most popular browser, when counting individual browser versions, passing Internet Explorer 7 and 8 by a small margin. This is the first time a global statistic has reported that a

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To people unfamiliar with the topic, it may be beneficial to briefly explain in the first paragraph why this is significant. Something along the lines of "Web browsers are the most widely used category of software." or something along those lines. I'll leave it to someone with better ideas to

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You wrote, "The whole point about a 'war' is that there are at least two partisan sides, so when we report on it, we have to give both sides' views... Reporting a brief skirmish in the 'browser wars' without really mentioning the non-Microsoft side's position at the time would be a bit

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I have removed this paragraph, having first tried to edit it and then to find some (any) verification for the points raised. Apart from the spelling, it used 'statistics' that don't seem to exist, emotive, unencyclopedic language about 'unexploded shells' and was completely uncited.

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Given the fact that there has yet to be any significant IE "worm", does this really do the article justice? Blaster and Sasser spread without IE. Nearly every definition of the term "worm" indicates compromising a large number of machines without the users having to do anything.

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Why are the browser wars misnumbered? The "first" is the second, etc. The one before the first doesn't have a number. Shouldn't the numbers be reformated to match the first, second, third wars, instead of Mosaic, First, Second? Browsers existed before Microsoft started in MSIE.

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Addendum: I think we're spending too few words on mobile browsers relative to their current importance and projected growth. I also wonder if info on browser history/competitive browser history is scattered among too many articles (this article,

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IE9 also points to future directions for the "wars" like hardware acceleration -- acceleration is one of the top things the IE Team has discussed on their blog, and Apple and Google both talk about current and future GPU work on their browsers.

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users). As per StatCounter in your quote: "we feel that this gives the fairest approximation of internet usage". Note that the article does refer to Net Applications a few times, and I don't think there's too large a bias on StatCounter. —

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all these organisations compete to create the most popular web browser. Ultimately, what do they get out of it? All major browsers are free so how to they make money (which I assume is the ultimate motivating factor) for their owners?

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or small companies and the fact that at the beginning the share market was increasing at a very fast pace (so that there was space for every kind of product in its initial development stage) classifies these struggles as small or

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date out of the blue and then immediately jumping back to the continued chronological structure; so i think it would be better if that part were re-written to flow well AND start with the chronologically relevant date.

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I like metaphors, but I'm not so sure that this metaphor is appropriate. It suggests that Firefox, Chrome, Safari, and Opera are allied against IE, which I doubt is true! Do the sources paint the same picture?

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Is it just me or there is a very large difference between 2 world maps in this article? The top one shows Firefox as a dominant browser in Africa, while the second map it is Opera. And why does it have 2 maps

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their browser, as would every company developing their browser. Ever additional person who uses chrome is an additional person who is using all of google's services. By the way, Firefox ROCKS!

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There are a few people in Antarctica too, on the research stations. I guess they've got Internet, too. It's not as primitive there as it used to be during the times of Amundsen and Scott. --

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Hi, 50.73.95.156. It was me who reverted you. I also just moved your new comments to the bottom of the Talk page (where we normally put them. I'll have a good look at the point you raise. --

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of the article, not in the reference alone, per WP:ASSERT. Unless the wording is general enough to cover each of the sources individually, it cannot be applied to all of the sources.

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I love how Konqueror gets a passing reference at the start, and from there on depraved mac fanbois shoot sticky wads of iGoo all over themselves talking about Safari and webkit.

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is true that Microsoft had those advantages, but part of Netscape's demise was self-inflicted. In order for this section to be neutral, it needs to address both perspectives. --

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person: I would and I will fix/expand it, but at the moment I am expanding historic browser articles from the time between 1992-1997 with user smallman12q.

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non-Internet Explorer browser version has exceeded the top Internet Explorer version in usage share since the fall of Netscape Navigator. This feat

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I noticed that on the Marketing via Continent map, it shows Antartica using mainly Firefox. Is this a fact, or was it just overseen

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is NetFront based. However it's incorrect to use the name "Opera Mini" for the Opera-based Nintendo browsers, so I changed that. —

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Deleting and then reverting out referenced stuff you don't like is not the best way to reach a consensus and a balanced article.

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is encroaching on Firefox's market share, and Apple is very belligerent towards all browsers, and even threatened to privatize

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If and when you try to find other sources to make a more general statement about pro-Firefox opinions, please keep in mind

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This strikes me as very unencyclopedic language, in fact it's sheer hyperbole. There's more examples through the article

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That's not what I did. Even in the version which you reverted, the following text explains the pro-Firefox point-of-view:

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I was reading this article, and it says Opera Mini was on the Nintendo Wii and DS. Doesn't it mean 3DS instead of DS?--

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He/she/it spends at least 1/2 the article talking about Internet Explorer's total dominance. Just slightly prejudiced?

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and more sources and facts about strong pro-IE opinions would need to be added to balance this out. --

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Its not all other browsers vs IE, they are fighting each other too, Chrome vs Mozilla for example

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and expand the article - on the other side: IE9 has 0% market share because it isn't released!

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Agreed, but it's also not Firefox and Opera versus Chrome and Safari versus IE is it?

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I would also readd the infobox. It is only the naming of the box that do a confusion.

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a third browser war between the major players Firefox, Explorer and Chrome? Thanks --

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My question is, is there ANY way to make this article meet neutrality standards??

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Are you counting this material as pro-IE? If so, please explain why.

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I agree with Melchoir. It's not IE vs. all other browsers.

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