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this article is focused exclusively on biology and genetics and has nothing about social, cultural, or environmental factors. Clearly I'm not an expert; I had a general idea of the biological side of gender incongruence and was reading these articles to learn more about external factors, and I was surprised to find there was nothing about that here.
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Also, this article over-relies on primary sources; I have tagged many of the sources so that it will be easier to find the individual sources that should be reconsidered and (mostly) replaced. We sometimes see this happening when academics are contributing, because they're accustomed to the academic
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I haven't heard of them falling out of usage, but I think these terms are more informative than trans woman and trans man. People who are unfamiliar with the terms may think trans woman means ftm because afab who is trans or trans man means mtf because amab who is trans, even well intentioned people.
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I noticed this page makes frequent use of the abbreviations FtM and MtF. Why is this? From what I understand these terms are more casual, slang terms that shouldn't be used in an article about science, or even really on an encyclopedia. They also seem to be falling out of use generally. Would anyone
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There is no grounds for a blanket change, although it's possible there are some where it isn't needed. However, we need to stick to the terminology of the sources. "Transsexual" (which "MtF" often appears next to) is a smaller set than "transgender", referring specifically in these sources to those
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goes over a number of "factors influencing formation," including social and environmental factors. One of the supplementary references at the top of this talk page, "Gender Identity Development: A Biopsychosocial Perspective," has a section on the social factors of gender-variant development. Yet
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who sought medical transition and surgery. And "MtF" does appear in many of the sources. How common it is in everyday discourse does not matter as this is a science article which uses more technical terms when the sources do.
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Simply refer to the kind of people traditionally known as MtF's as "trans women". Also, please note that trans women contrast with cis women, not real women, biological females, or women-born-women.
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states: "The causes of gender incongruence are unknown, but a gender identity likely reflects genetic, biological, environmental, and cultural factors."
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procedure applies to this page. This page is related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, which has been
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I think MtX and FtX are the preferred terms for nonbinary people, but yes mtf is still a better term for an amab enby than trans woman
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Yes, I agree. I have added several secondary sources under "some sources to use" (don't think they discuss Blanchards model tho)
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It also covers more of the "spectrum" (to put it somehow) of transition, e.g. transmasculine and transfeminine individuals
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Ettner, Randi; Monstrey, Stan; Coleman, Eli (20 May 2016). "Theories of the Etiology of Transgender Identity".
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The use of trans-eliminationist terminology matches the tone (and quality of the sources) of the article.
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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
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mtf makes it clear they are born male and transitoning to female and vice versa for ftms
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Just a friendly reminder that this article should be following the normal rule that we
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https://www.reddit.com/r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns/comments/a1fv1o/transmenarenotwomen/
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The “trans”woman brain is NOT closer to “cis”gender women than “cis”gender men.
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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:
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found that taking hormones causes measurable changes to the brain".
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Genetic Aspects of Gender Identity Development and Gender Dysphoria
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Writing an encyclopedia article instead of a literature review
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be against me editing to remove them and use better language?
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It is cited directly from the sources used, i think.
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