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thousands of kilometers from the underlying dense viscous fluid and (or) plastic solid. The volume of gas giant planets includes the volume of atmospheric gases up to the upper edge of the clouds. And rocky planets have either sparse or dense atmospheres. But the volume of rocky planets does not include the volume of atmospheric gases from the surface to the upper edge of clouds. Therefore, the calculated density of rocky planets is many times greater than that of gas giant planets.
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color, but to be accurate it's more like iridescent or opal-blue. And also Great White Spot is not a long living storm. I occurs in a cycle, like once every 10 to 20 years. Uranus is not always featureless, though it looks bland and pale blue most of the time. Somewhere in the section you should mention about the dark spot, probably one storm happens over coldest seasons when the disc looks greener. The sky is more like turquoise or azure blue.--
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Yes, sorry. UBeR restarted an article with similar content and I just fixed the page history as to where it came from; after Stephan put a request on UBeR's talk page ref licences. It needs a considerable rework to match the title: he did this a bit but his revisions got lost because I couldn't see a
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Also I forgot, Great Dark Spot is not a permanent storm on Neptune. THe disc is rich tropical blue, when the disc looks greener over coldest seasons, the dark sopt fades away, Voyagers have found a time when Neptune becomes featureless or a bland turquoise globe. It is better to mention somewhere in
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When we talk about Saturn's atmospere layers, the disc is actually dull blue or something like opals. The sky in the upper layer must be something like blue-purple or indigo color smae as Jupiter, or Saturn is multi-color almost like Jupiter. I'm not sure of any source say the exact of disc Saturn's
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A certain height of the atmosphere of different planets is either included in the total volume of the planet, or is not included. Whereas gas giant planets have very dense clouds in their atmospheres, impervious to the optical range of electromagnetic radiation, located very high: many hundreds and
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But most of the content is currently about atmospheres within the solar system, so "Exoplanet atmospheres" doesn't work. The casual reader is not going to get hung up on the definition of a "terrestrial planet" - I think "Extraterrestrial" nicely encapsulates the topic; ie, atmospheres other than
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A categorization of extraterrestrial atmospheres would help - any opinions on how to do so, e.g. by type of astronomical body (terrestrial type, gas giant, moon, star), or atmospheric composition? Given the title, we should definitely include extrasolar planets and possibly stellar atmospheres.
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What is the goal for content in this article? It shouldn't be just a list of descriptions of the atmosphere of each planet. That can go in the planets' individual articles. There has to be some common thread to tie the content together. And keep in mind that
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sound like having to do with non-terrestrial planets; the technical definitions are lost on casual readers. (Yes, some "exoplanets" may not be true planets, but things are sketchy enough at this point that they are fine all lumped together.)
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As long as it's here, it might as well have content; its unclear right now whether an article on a set of such disparate topics is more useful than leaving the content in the individual main articles, but perhaps something more can be made of
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exoplanet's atmospheres the first one talks about atmospheres around exoplanets in general. I think these article titles are too similar and therefore can be confusing, but I'm not sure what can be done to solve this titling issue. Thoughts?
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as the methods of study, and levels of knowledge are very different. However the titles are confusing, and I suspected that I might read about stellar atmospheres, so instead of "Extrasolar atmosphere", use "exoplanet atmosphere".
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It presents a pretty narrow worldview. A collage of different atmospheric limbs for bodies of varying sizes would be much more appropriate. Suggestions are Saturn/Jupiter, Earth, Titan, Triton and a comet.--
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Looks like a good assessment of the article - Hammel and Lockwood cover some of this and some aspects of Uranian brightness in Icarus, January 2007. The Uranus correlation is somewhat more tenuous.
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remain: the article implicitly claims that the solar system is warming, which is original synthesis. It's better now that the title doesn't claim that, at least—but the content still does.
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I guess this thing gets a chance to develope but I share Nethgirbs concerns; this is too similar to the deleted article at the moment. It will get speedied if it isn't careful
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because the two topics are different. I think the confusion stems from the titles which are too similar. IMHO the right thing to do is to change the name of this article.
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way to merge two sets of histories. Give a few days to sort out a plan please...the title not longer claims the solar system is warming but the contents ain't great. --
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The atmospheres of different planets are included or not included in the volume of planets to calculate the average density of the matter of the planets
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is a big chunk already), and the article still remains small. When the size becomes prohibitive, it may be split in three: general/main article
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BTW, I planned add a description of the atmosphere of Jupiter, and someone already did! Now I have no excuse not to do my taxes... ;-)--
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Seems like these concerns will have to be addressed, or else the article will just end up on AfD again, wasting everyone's time. --
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check if our description is correct? At least in the abstract, I find no mentioning of a warming of Neptune, only of brightness.
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Probably - I would like to type things into similar groupings, but I'm not sure what the most obvious way to do that is.
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Maybe planets, then other solar system bodies (moons, comets), then beyond the solar system? (I am not an astronomer!)
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Fairly large consensus to merge, both numerically and in argument weight; any exoplanet-specific material can go to
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Actually, it might be useful to include content from the perspective of the study of planetary atmospheres, e.g.
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I see this article has returned from the dead a second time. I'm a bit concerned about this for two reasons:
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would be good for this situation. Any content that is specific to exoplanets, however, could be merged into
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sound like atmospheres having something to do with stars, while "Extraterrestrial"
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