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Estonia have scored just as high or higher than some of these four in recent comparisons. It is also questionable if results on the PISA can be used to back up this statement at all. The "such as" suggests there are other comparisons with similar outcomes. If so, what are those comparisons? Otherwise, this should be changed to a simple statement along the lines of "High school students from these four countries consistently score near the top in recent PISA tests" with one reference.
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