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rebut every guest and audience member's comment or question, as he demanded. (He insisted on insulting most of them, including Lake, threatening them with an eternity in hell.) Her producers followed the pair backstage and asked them to return, which they did. Shortly thereafter, Phelps quoted Philippians 3:19-20 to Lake, indeed adding that her god was her rectum. This New Testament passage is usually understood to be a condemnation of overindulgence in food, making it a reference to Lake's former weight, not to any alleged sexual practices on her part. (I have no idea whether he knew Lake is Jewish. The subject never came up.) The Westboro Baptist Church often used that verse to describe anal intercourse as well, and the audience seemed to infer that meaning in light of Phelps's previous (and frequent) use of the term "rectum." Most versions of the Christian Bible render that word as "belly" or "stomach." Lake responded, "That's totally out of line!" Afterwards she cooled considerably toward Phelps, often cutting him off in mid-sentence to allow someone else to speak and then not letting him challenge the comment and berate the questioner, but she didn't force him to leave the soundstage -- at least not during the part of the show that was actually broadcast.
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have Fred Phelps removed from the telecast taped in 1993. At first, Phelps and his young follower (whose name was given as "Charles," I think, and who wasn't identified as Phelps's son) got up and started to leave the studio of their own accord after Lake and her producers wouldn't allow them to
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from people who never actually criticized any actual idea held by Judaism - they simply hate Jews, tell lies about them, and/or tried to kill them all. When I find other unjustified "critics of.." categories, I remove those too. I don't do that if there are examples in the articles of actual
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After letting it fester for a few minutes, I deleted the four categories. If someone disagrees, revert it. He sticks out like a sore thumb between all those real critics starting with A to P. (Don't look at Q to Z yet, they are full of antisemites.)
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It says in the excommunication and death section in the article that he preached his final sermon in September 2013 but that he was excommunicated from the church in August 2013. How does that make any sense?
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and opening paragraphs are POV. focused on negative characterizations and omitting, for instance, his civil rights work and campaigns for state-wide office.
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