Talk:Iran/Archive 4 - Knowledge (XXG)

2065:, that would later be transferred to their newly freed Jewish subjects that in return would adapt these ideas, that would in turn enormously influence Judaism and later Christianity should not be encouraged. Misrepresenting the second Iranian dynasty, the Ashkanian, or Parthian Empire who reunited Iran and made it into a global power again, and who have had tremendous impact on the Iranian culture, should not be an aim of yours, just because it is simply more ``convenient`` for Western literature to do so. From its birth, Iran was called Iran (land of Aryans) by Cyrus the Great, not Persia, which is simply a province in Iran, yet so much inaccuracies have risen that the West thinks Persia is extinct, and the modern nation of Iran is different, which is false, in fact--from 525 BC up to 1979 AD, the country was called `Kingdom of Iran`; there is archeological proof of that. After the 1979 revolution, the country is now called `The Islamic Republic of Iran`. There are numerous articles and books that state Parthia was a country in Asia, or that the second Persian, i.e., Iranian dynasty was the Sassanid, or even more erroneously, and shockingly, that Parthian were foreign rulers of Persia. That is absurd; it is very much like saying Yankees in Boston in the north rose to power and formed Bostonia, later native Texans took back their land, and were the second American dynasty. Ashkanian, who came from the north of Iran and were from the ancient Iranian tribe of Ashkuzi (Scythians), reunited Iran, and revitalized Persian customs. Macedonia that was not even part of Greece, is under Ancient Greece, yet, people seem to have separated Persia, Parthia, and Iran. As such, because Wikepedia gives people a chance to make wrongs right, it is essential that right in the beginning of the sentence, the empire’s real name be embedded in there, so when a reader studies it for the first time, he or she would know the origin of the empire. Calling that era of Iran, Persia and Parthia is absolutely confusing, and above all false. The correct name for the country was, and is simply, Iran. 4191:

dominated by high level clergy" then we could wonder why Hashemi Rafsanjani didnt become president. However it is evident in Iran why he was not chosen as a cleric. Any country can proclaim to be a democracy. Even Baathist and Soviet regimes, however all countries have a partial democracy by this logic. USA just as Iran has requirements for a president-elect and both claim to be a democracy. Irans requirements of a president are in the Iranian constitution. Wich demands the ruler be a Muslim. Those with a secular agenda are banned simply because this is in contradiction to the constitution and the Islamic republic itself. It is as if i would run for president in the US with a theocratic agenda to make the nation abide by Islamic law. Pigs are not going to fly. Iran is far from being what Fox portrays you to be. It is not a talibanic country where people have no rights. They do vote and have voted for presidents many times. In most cases their popularity defined their victory. The past and present has shown AhmadiNejad and Khatami were both voted in by the masses. A democratic country is not a country that abides by the USA's rules (as well as under the guise of "Freedom House" or not) or its wishes, as much as they would like this to be the case.--

5201:" is halfy correct, before 1979 people on average although did not have the best living standards across the country, it was only in 1979 when the Khomeini's speeches started to hit Iranian people effectively which led to the revolution. The opposition groups which Shah had opposed who later overthrew him, established a much more dictatorial state where people now truely do not have any sort of rights, and minority groups such as Bahai's do not even have the right to become citizens of Iran or get passports. So I think the sentence is abit problematic for these reasons as it might give the impression that now Iranians have much more "civil liberties" as you put it. The only thing that Iran has now is a president, who pretty much doesn't have any power, none over the army especially as the Supreme leader has power over all 3773:

realized I made a mistake becuase in Iran's population consensus they are not listed under ethnic groups but under religious. I put it there by mistake and I was fixing my mistake. Anyway you look at it they must be taken offf. If they are even kept there it would go against the mathamatical figures making all the stats wrong. SO I will remove them. Once again you have made a comment that distroys your credibility on these subjects. Assume good faith. You can not jump the gun. You have also made outrageous statments that Iranian Jews were in Iran before Armenians which is totally wrong once again. See the Persian Jew discussion. Iranian Jews are no different from other Iranian but in faith. No racial differences. I would also like to point something out the group that is the object of this discussion is labelled

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think the viewpoint that Iran is preparing a nuclear strike against Israel might be a bit off-base. Let's look at the facts- Mahmoud knows that Israel already has nukes (A LOT of them, as frightening as that sounds), so a nuclear strike against that nation would certainly result in annhilation of Iran (MAD is a rather frightening thing). He also must know that even if Iran were sucessful in launching a nuclear attack and survived, that instead of liberation, the region would be contaminated with deadly poisons and unliveable for generations to come, and indeed, the fallout would form a cloud that would likely destroy the very Palestine sliver that exists.

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the world to ask the country they were in to refer to Persia as Iran. So in fact both of your reasons are right. Later in 1959, some scholars such as Ehsan Yarshater started rasing questions as to why Iran is not called Persia because of its great history, and you should note that it was during this time Ehsan Yarshater made that comment provided by Aucaman. And so in 1959, Mohammad Reza Shah, who was very much in favor of returning Iran to its powerfull heritage, told other countries that both names can be used in calling Iran/Persia. This is a fact, many Iranian scholars including Ehsan Yarshater whom I have talked to agree with me on this. --(

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clothing. There are different levels of restriction however this alltogether has nothing to do with a country being a democracy. A country can be both Theocratical and democratic. If you believe that people are handpicked by clerics this is merely an oppinion. However it is a fact people like Khatami and Ahmadinejad were chosen by people due to an overwhelming popularity and promises they made. This is a democracy. Im sure the mollah's could of handpicked better people to rule the country. However what you and me "Think" is of no relevance. Its the mere process that is relevant and this is as legitimate as any other regime. Motaasefaneh.--

4208:, I am an Iranian and not an American and yet I believe Iran is not democracy (and believe me aziz, I am not alone!). Ahmadinejad and Khatami and everyone else who stand up for elections are hand picked by the clerics and supreme leader. "People have rights" is arguable also. What kind of rights? Certainly no rights such as freedom of speech or religion or clothing or movement or infact anything people in the west take for granted. So indeed I agree with "theocracy with democratic elements". Now I am not saying I agree with the American politics - their politics is far from reasonable and clean. 958:, a state 1/72 the size of Iran and only 300 years old? It's taken us a year, me and a group of around 10-15 editors, to get the article to where it is now. A lot of hard work, a lot of debate, a lot of research. The article is already critically short as it is. Any shorter, it will not reflect the true image of Iran, even in a summary. The Economy section, I did not work on. But pretty much all other sections must not be reduced, if not expanded. It simply wont do justice to a topic like 494:

the term "Shah" that spontaneously entered the English media and literature during the process of 1978-9 revolution). What I find odd is that some Iranians have this tendency to bring original words like "Farsi", "Majlis" (or now even "Rahbar"!) into the English literature. Knowledge (XXG) will last long our generation, so the future generations may and will do further adjustments as needed, but I don't see the need to rush to to this artificially.

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have to keep in mind that despite this, the Parliament (which is democratically elected by average citizens) retains a decent level of control over domestic issues and such, and people are able to vote for the President (though candidates need to be approved by the theocracy). All in all, it's a very different situation from the Soviet Union, which indeed was an out-and-out dictatorship where average citizens were completely cut of the loop.

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when all editors are against your demands you try new tactics! This is obviously wrong. Do you not think your cyber-actions are Self-contradicting? If the discsuusion histories you are in are all read by users they will see you contradict yourself and not consistant in your rational and argument. DO not take this as a personal attack but as observation of the content you push. You are creating a negative atmosphere in the community.

1453:; it should be nominated by someone with enough time and willingness to address the objections as they come. Usually the way featured article candidates pass is if most of the Object votes have been addressed and those voters change their votes to Support. This time there will probably be at least some initial Support votes, as the article in its current form has reached 3471:

English. It's also clear from the WP article that the dispute started in 1935, with the decree, and has simmered along since then. However, it may have gotten more intense in the 1980s with the vast increase in the Iranian diaspora after the Revolution. Stuff that doesn't matter when you're living in Tehran may matter a lot more when you're living in L.A.

3819:. The only point you make that is on-target is that "Iranian Jews" is a general term for Jews geographically in Iran, a population that consists of people who identify themselves as ethnically Tat, Kurdish, or Persian. But you seem unwilling to concede that they also identify themselves as ethnically Jewish. Please debate this over in the talk pages for 1324: 4114:. I acknowledge that the government of Iran has some democratic aspects, but to call it democratic is, in my opinion, not very accurate. Recently, someone has reverted my rewording into a "theocracy with democratic elements", giving the reason that "Wether USA is democratic can also be subject to discussion, however both proclaim they are". 1633: 2261: 5184:" doesn't seem right, civil liberties are "Fundamental individual rights, such as freedom of speech and religion". Minority groups in Iran such as Zoroastrians and Jews had much more freedom under Pahlavi dynasty than before Pahlavi or very much after Pahlavi. Shah basically crushed the opposition groups. 3703:

On WP, people can go against consensus, if there is reason to believe that they represent a notable point of view. If there's a dispute, we give all POVs. So instead of trying to stamp out any dissent, the question should be one of notability. There are numerous cites establishing notability, notably

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User:Acuman all your questions and concerns have been addressed, but you insist on going in loops until you can edit the article the WAY YOU ALONE WANT. When facts were presented about Kurds being an ethnic Iranian people you suppressed them based on a so-called, unjust, and hollow consensus, but now

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As I said, the article says that Persian scholars protested the name change. It also says that the decision was later reversed. You don't think the decision was controversial if it was later reversed by the same person who advocated it? When was the last time you heard a monarch reverse his decree on

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That's last year. The article was written by an Iranian and published in an Iranian newspaper. Now Aucaman may be right in saying that these are all geriatric scholars and everyone else has adjusted and let's all just move on, folks, there's nothing to see here -- that's the part that we can't decide

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Zmmz, why remove the note? It's true that Iranians/Persians dispute the issue. Is it just because we made a change without your approval? Other people seemed to be fine with the change, which seemed to me to be primarily copyediting, not substance. The only problem some people had was the whole "Nazi

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OK, I read the section again, and it didn't give me the impression that the name change was caused by popular demand. All it says is that it was prompted by Pehlavi. I don't know much about the subject, but the German thing doesn't seem to help much. The reader could easily assume that the population

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As much as I don't particulary understand why Aucaman wants that info in the main article, other people's edits to quickly remove it without discussion here on the talk page about why it shouldn't be in the article is also definitely not correct. Aucuman has shown he wants to discuss it's inclusion,

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to asked all countries to call Persia as to Iran, which means the Land of the Aryans, and since Hitler was working on the speculation that he was from real Aryan race, this change would put Iran in good grounds with him. And so on March 21 1935 Reza Shah sent a message to all Iranian delegates around

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The history section for the Iran page is incomplete and lacks specific information. The page says that written history in Iran began around 3000BC but when you follow the link provided that page gives the date 3200 BC. The history of Iran has been proven by archeologists and scholars to be much more

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I think the "Persia/Iran" naming convention paragraph should be trimmed or removed altogether. It is absolutely pointless - this is an article about Iran. If a few Iranian scholars and academics in the United States believe that a "controversy" exists about the name of the country, that does not make

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Honestly, Khashayar's "version" says the exact same thing as the one that the group had agreed on beforehand- that the Shah took control (with US help), and that his rule was dictatorial. What he leaves out is the extent of the Shah's tactics regarding the people, the UK's involvement in the illegal

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One would assume one would write down Iran's actions that led up to the Security Council's concerns, then Iran's response, and finally the latest Security Council statement regarding the 30 day warning. We should follow it up with anything Iran's done very recently. And remember that we must keep it

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All the beheadings, murder of foreign reporters, mosque bombings, and terrorist activities in Iraq are committed or sanctioned by Anglo-American occupation forces or Israel. Israel is very much so involved in North Iraq that is why there is new claims that Kurds and Jews are one and the same race by

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To the Iran editors, please do not take my recent edits as being against the people of Iran. I love the Iranian culture, people, history and country; it is my heritage, and I owe a lot to it. So please don't take my statements here against Iran in anyway. The only thing is that I don't appreciate

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Firstly Iranian Jews are not an ethnic group and Jews are not an ethnic group. A ethnic group is almost homogenous. There are Asian Jews, Arab Jews, Iranian Jews, Black Jews, German Jews, Slavic Jews, etc. They are not a an ethnic group. I was the user who added them to the list of ethnic groups but

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Tell user: Acuman that when high quality proof was presented to him about KUrds being ethnic Iranians hew pushed it aside for unjust consensus or he waited it out and edited whatevcer he pleased. THE KURDISH ARTICLES MUST BE FIXED FIRST. HE BELEIVES HE HAS SECURIED HIS IDEALS IN THAT ARTICLE AND CAN

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I'm not doubting Yarshater credentials or status as a reliable historian. But the tone of the article you referenced is very hypothetical and vague. Many respected and influential scholars provide side commentary on topics that they don't expect to stand up to the same scrutiny as their major works.

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Aucaman, I've just finished reading the excerpt from Ehsan Yarshater that you linked. Frankly, it seems very vague 'it is said' is used twice, the ambassador is unnamed, as are his 'German friends'. Without having read the rest of the article, it seems like Yarshater is relating an unprovable aside,

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I never said Iranians haven't been calling their country Iran. (The article says the name "Iran" goes back to Sassanians, but I think it even goes back more.) But the decision to change the countrty's name was proposed by Germans, and I wanted this included in the section. It's been reverted without

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In the future I'd love to see a map showing Azerbaijan as an entity unto itself...this region is clearly not Persian, and the only thing that makes it Iranian is the border on Araz Chayi (Aras River). Perhaps Christian Armenia would like to join "Islamic" Iran in a federal union of sorts, given the

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Golbez protected it, not Aucaman, firstly. Secondly, I don't think that the Iran talk page is the appropriate place to be discussing his actions- if he's causing an edit war, I would recommend you alert the administrators regarding the matter instead of foffling up an army here. Yes, he's disputing

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Of COURSE it belongs there- it's an integral part of Iran's history. The effects that khomeyni's influence had on Iran and its politics reverberated far beyond just the individual elements of the Revolution. I'm putting back the part you erased, because, quite simply, it's a major part of what Iran

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I've taken the relevant portion of the article and created a more NPOV form of it; it is noted that even though the President of Iran has been very hostile, the politicians lower in the chain have been active in portraying Iran as a peaceful nation not interested in conflict. They've repeatedly had

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It might also be worth mentioning that, as of this writing, the three images in the gallery are the only images with dubious status--all unsourced images have been replaced or tagged as copyright violations, and the other fair use images (emblem and Majiles) have been sufficiently explained by tags

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I would guess that this debate matters primarily to people who speak languages other than Persian -- which would be academics specializing in Persia/Iran, Iranians in diaspora, and Iranian intellectuals. Yes, this discussion would hold no interest for some guy in a village in Fars who doesn't speak

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Aucaman asked me to look at this article, and I'm sorry to disappoint him, but I don't think that there's much wrong with the naming section. The only thing that might be changed is the word "although", which suggests that non-Iranians were using the word Persia in defiance of Iranian wishes. IMHO,

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No one can ever ruin Iran. Iran has been around for at least 7000 years. We have fought the Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Turks, Mongols, etc....We are still here and our culture and heritage is as strong as ever. One day soon when we get rid of the stupid mullahs in Tehran then Iran will become a strong,

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The article says that written history starts around 3000BC When in fact the Elamite tablets that have been found date back to much before 3200BC. Also, why does wikipedia start with "written" history in regards to Iran. For other countrys they start right from the date that the earliest settlements

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Misrepresenting one of the most glorious and influential times in Iranian history, and for that matter world history, the dynasty of Achaemenids, Ashkanian, and Sassanids in all called the Persian Empire--the first global empire; the largest the world had seen yet--the empire that gave humanity for

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I think the second one (probably from "Persepolis"(Takht-e Jamshid)) is better since it refers to some historical event, which has taken place, while the first one is a religious figure (an angle) which can not be considered a historical one and it does not refer to any historical event. It is more

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hello everyone, just have some questions- since the article mentions religion and political systems, is there no need or requirement to flesh out that issues such as women's rights (I'm not a woman ), political freedom, repression, hostagetaking, support for terrorism, and other elements which give

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The point is that we don't have to force the ethnic words into the English literature; the examples like the Russian "Duma" have entered the literature a long time ago and through a natural course i.e., frequent communication between people and different media (one example in our recent history is

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and that it would happen "soon". Words like "in a single blow" and "the storm" were used. I'm sure that SOMEONE will attempt to jam a POV into the article and say that his remarks were connected to Iran's nuclear program, so I think it worthwhile to nip it in the bud here on the discussion page. I

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press release, the Secretary-General was shocked to see the remarks attributed to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, in which he reportedly cast doubt on the truth of the Holocaust and suggested that the State of Israel should be moved from the Middle East to

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WP also has a policy that the mainstream view of things takes centre stage and other views are noted as such. If there are other cites to support this view being very well accepted, then great. Otherwise it needs to be presented as 'Yarshater speculated that the German ambassador....' (if at all).

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The section on Mossadegh appears somewhat inaccurate. From what I understand he did not abolish the monarchy, which prior to the coup was severely limited in scope due to it being a constitutional monarchy. After the coup the Shah simply assumed authoritarian powers that he did not have before the

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No, what I'm saying is that why pick on Iran instead of the US, Israel, Russia, or any other large country article (i.e. most of them). I can guarantee you that those articles will probably stay at the same size they are currently at or even expand further due to the fact that country articles are

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Technically (and legally) it is a democracy - this is identified in the Constitution. In reality, however, it is a "democratic theocracy" (this is accurate) - that is to say, the average citizens are cut of the democratic process, which is almost entirely dominated by high-level clergy. Also, you

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That's covered in the article on the naming dispute. We can't drag all the details from that article into the main Iran article. I've seen this happen over and over in the years I've spent on WP -- people seem to want everything in the main article, which grows until it is so long and so detailed

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I'm against censorship. against oroginal research. against accusation. I'm not angry this is you who are angry because could not provide any sources for the article. I'm just suggesting to you calm down. Before you wrote this accusations I had left that page but if you still think that dispute be

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It's been a while that some people with bad intentions, have been writing suspicious and anti-iranian stuff in the following pages. Their evil goal is to promote the idea of independence of Arabs in Khuzestan. Specially users with the names "Zora" and "Ahwaz" have been very active in this regard.

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Nowhere in the article (not even in the political section) is there any mention of the role Iran has played in the tension in the region. Setting aside any animosity with the west, Iran's nuclear aspirations have many nations in the region very uneasy, and for good reason. The ability to conduct

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This gallery contains a large amount of fair use images that cannot be fully justified. I don't want to remove it outright, but that will probably have to happen if this article is to become featured. (All fair use images in featured articles are supposed to have full rationales, and replaced if

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An ethnic group is a group of people who closely identify with one-another (sometimes through having common ancestors, but not necessarily so) and share a unique culture and language. Persian Jews definitely fall in this category. They identify closely with one another (for most of their history

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If you read the section over again, it is written as if the decision to change the country's name was caused by a popular demand. It ignores the fact that the decision was highly influenced by outside forces and that it was opposed by a lot of scholars inside and outside the country (who rightly

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That's an excellent good point actually. Unless other country articles should be trimmed as well (since they all have numerous main articles linked to the primary country profile), this one should be continued to expand, though I would rather see less focus on the history since there are so many

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I agree with this. We can remove the comment about the Shah. But I think a lot of readers confuse Iran with Persia and an explanation is necessary (preferably in the beginning of the article). You can edit the article the way you want and then we can discuss your changes. I like the introductory

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Hmmm. No, I wouldn't trust the World Gazeteer too far, because it doesn't give sources for each of its estimates. It seems to be a site that gets eyeballs with the collected stats, and makes money from displaying ads. I'd trust the CIA factbook more, ditto official census figures. Good point re

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Anyone can start an article on wiki, this so-called controversy is no controversy to Iranians and certainly not significant enough to be included in this article. Iran has always been named Iran by Iranians and Reza Shah decided that Westerners should use the native name Iran instead of Persia.

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Looks good to me. I want to add a point in regards to the German influence over the 1935 name change however. It is important to understand that it is usually the detracting opinions of anti-monarchial, and in particular anti-Pahlavi forces that resort to this fact whenever there is a chance to

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people just accept that other languages use different words (Nihon/Japan, Deutschland/Germany, etc.) A semicolon would do the job. Any allegations of Nazi influence should be discussed in the naming controversy article, not in the main Iran article. Too much detail and an article is unreadable.

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I have to jump in here and say something. I have done much research into the topic and know much regarding the Naiming of Iran. You are both correct about this. Iranians have been calling their home land Iran for hundreds of years and to be more exact since the time of the Safavids. But foreign

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I did not mean to make a big deal out of this. It was just something to think about. I personally don't like reading long articles, but I did not suggest getting rid of important information (or any information). You also have to note that because of its rich history and complex nature, all the

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As well, we should keep in mind that the monarchy was abolished many years ago and any rulings made by the last Shah were made obsolete after he fled (or rather abandoned) the country, and most especially with the establishment of the Islamic Republic. Why it is necessary to state that the Shah

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No, I haven't been to Khuzestan. However, having been in Khuzestan would make absolutely no difference in terms of judging reliability of data. Living in Khuzestan for twenty years would not be the same thing as conducting a reliable census! Estimates from reliable sources take precedence over

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There is a line beween having reasonable concerns, and being unreasonable in order to push a POV, that to you may seem a no brainer, yet to scholars it is either unacceptable, or at best ify. Simultanously disputing these articles, non-stop, and not accepting multiple universal refrences is a

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I'm not one of the reverters, but am just adding my opinion for perspective. While the info may well be true, I don't see it as terribly notable. This is an article about Iran in general and this little factoid, while interesting, seems too be a bit of a tangent, unless it is explained how the

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If you put in something about terrorism, make sure that it's in the greater context of the region. Just up and calling a nation of people "terrorists" because of the comments of a single man is extremely POV and doesn't enlighten the reader about the greater conflict creeping into the nation.

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Actually this is all very incorrect, people do vote in Iran and there is no such thing as the person aboved me claimed "The average citizens are cut of the democratic process". May i remind you AhmadiNejad was no more a cleric than you or me. If indeed your argument were true about "It being

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on his page. Nothing yet. He has a history of reverting any edit I make without much explanation, so I'm not surprised. And the article does go into detail about how and why the name was changed, so if someone is interested they can just click on the article and read it. As for verifiability,

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I dont know why being Iranian or not actually matters, im an Iranian too and im saying Iran is just as much a democracy as any other country. A democracy doesnt necessarily mean people can like whatever they wear or say whatever they want. Freedom of speech is restricted everywhere and so is

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be stored in just one article, but has to be expanded through several articles. A person looking for specific information about Iran's economy shouldn't have to read 9 unorganized paragraphs (in terms of headings and readability) just to figure out that the information he/she needs is in the

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is a well-known figure and his word should be trusted. I'm sure he wouldn't just publish these if he wasn't sure about the accuracy of the claims. The same article has been used by people to source various other claims (both on this page and others). And I don't know of any other articles

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Diyako, calm down. Read my comment above more carefully. Do you see me even using the word "support" above? But I did say that you are doing their work. And that is a plain fact. That's why I provided the link. Also, youre the one who is angry and determined to censor Iranian pages. Not

4705:. Judging sources is not our business on WP because it can easily lead to POV disputes on who is a more legitimate or accurate source. Therefore, if you are able to provide documentation for your claim, you'll then have a green light here and we will include the figure in the article. 2474:

appeared on the front page yesterday. Unfortunately, the article contains very little information on t'aarof, but is rather a Marxist criticism of it. If any of the knowledgable editors here would like to go over and add some information on what t'aarof involves , that would be great.

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because he claims that the source of the page is incorrect. Please visit the talk page on Persians and see for yourself. He wont cooperate and is giving bad atitude. Majority of editors on that page claim that the source is right but he just wont stop. SO please help. Thank you all,

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Iran was called a state sponsor long before President Bush was elected to office. So please do not say this is something new!! Also, please do not delete the fact that UN SG Annan condemned the comments made by Ahmadinejad about its nearby neighbors! That is just selective history!!!

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First of all, this page needs no clean up and second of all MR.AUCAMAN, you and some others just came and deleted many section people worked hard on. You know that people put time on thier edits.What happened to the climate section? Who do you think you are? People WORK HARD!!!!!

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The Secretary General condemned Ahmadinejad's comments about its nearby neieghbors, so did the European Union and the United States. The EU ans the US have also recognized Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism. I hope this will change in the future so that all may live in peace.

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ancient than what is claimed on Knowledge (XXG). Certain settlements and villages that have been excavated prove that civilizations and permanent settlements have existed in Iran for at least 7000 years. The date on the history page should be corrected to say at least 5000BCE.

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history articles, and we need to encourage editors to add more and more detailed information to those individual articles. There is not enough focus on modern Iran and the technological and economical developments and so forth, and there is so much more to add in that respect.

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nuclear warfare (in other words, the desire to create nuclear weapons) would have drastic ramifications and would completely reshape Iran's position of power in the region. It would stand to reason that SOMETHING should be mentioned in this article regarding such things.

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Actually my friend it is not my opinion, It is a fact that those who stand for elections are handpicked by the supreme leader and the council of guardians (who are also handpicked by the supreme leader). I am too busy to find a good link for the full procedure but I think

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Maybe you should leave messages on the reverter's talk page? But I disagree that your additions 'put things in context'. There is no context in your edit, the sentence just mentions the Nazis with no explanation of why they would care about what the country calls itself.

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Well the article says that Persian scholars protested the name change. It also says that the decision was later reversed. You don't think the decision was controversial if it was later reversed? When was the last time you heard a monarch reverse his decree on something?

954:, but almost every US state page is above the 20k mark. And here we are trying to present a country with a 7000 year history that is on the brink of conflict with the international community. Surely there is much more to say in this article than the 64k long article of 3319:

Hi Zora. Surely 'disputes' on WP talk pages don't count as verifiable evidence. It would be good if these reverters did provide more commentary. But the article text states there is debate amongst Iranians themselves, and I think we do need evidence for this. Regards,

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We cannot afford to be neutral - Iran is a risk, a great threat which has to be dealt with. The people of iran are a noble one, but their government is the most dangerous group of terroists in the world. God bless Geroge W Bush for his hard line. 06:14 March 19 2006

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Seized and burned by Alexander the Great's conquering army, shaken by uncounted earthquakes, eroded by 25 centuries of rain, fluctuating temperatures and scouring winds, Persepolis-the greatest of the royal residences of ancient Persia-is a definitive ancient ruin.

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These three users are on some sort of anti-Iranian crusade vandalizing all the Iranian and Persian related articles. We need to keep an eye on their " edit activities" as their intentions is not sincere but merely for the purpose of propagating false information.

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possible.) A quick search of the Internet finds no encyclopedia-proper Creative Commons images of the cities whose images are currently fair use. Then again, a number of Wikipedians here are Iranian--could someone perhaps upload self-taken photos to use? Thanks,

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I would have proposed the same changes for other articles if I had the time. Let's see if can finish this one now. These kind of stuff aren't really worth talking about. I'm just trying to make the article look nice and readable. Shouldn't require justification.

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Yet, the place remains an awesomely impressive sight 2,500 years after it was built. Even today, those who step up to its gigantic terrace of 125,000 square meters and see its majestic columns are filled with a sense of awe drifting into a dream-like trance.

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Could not believe my eyes when i saw that, khomeyni helped make the country into democratic what??? lol There is no room for propaganda, if you don't understand that the admins will make you understand, then you have to write your propaganda in chatrooms.

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I think both are excellent. The first, however, has a more specific symbolic meaning, and can be dated back to older times than the second. I would also prefer that one. Just a suggestion: Isn't it possible to put a picture of the Cyrus cylinder instead?

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It is relevant to state it, but not written in this lopsided manner, not in the introduction section, and perhaps not even in this article, but rather in an article about the politics of Iran-US. Also, why did you erase every single, factual mention of

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Islamic republic of Iran is very different to "democratic" (See discussions above). If you believe we can word this better, suggest it. I worded that and I am not sure its the best but you can be pretty sure that it was not intended to be propoganda!

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demonize Iran's final dynasty. Although it should be noted in more detailed accounts of the international name change, it should be buffered by the notion that it was also fomented by Reza Shah's administration under his nationalistic mandate.

5418:"Over the centuries the Jews of Iran became physically, culturally, and linguistically indistinguishable from the non-Jewish population. The overwhelming majority of Jews speak Persian as their mother language, and a tiny minority, Kurdish." 4700:

We would all like to believe what you say. But WP rules specifically mention "verifiability" as the central criterion for basing information. In other words, it doesnt matter if the source is the CIA, World Gazeteer, or Iran Census Bureau,

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Israeli and U.S. intelligence are concentrating hard on Iranian minorities, because they have no military solution for this problem. They want to disintegrate Iran into a few countries like the Soviet Union and that is not going to happen.

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One other thing, interestingly, there are 22 Arab States most of them with parliaments which they call "Majlis" but they use the term "parliamnet" in English texts. BTW, the way the term is pronounced in Iran it should be spelled "Majles".

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and has waited for responses, and others are not willing to discuss, but just remove the disputed statement. I'm not for or against it's inclusion, but Aucaman has a source, and it should be discussed rather than just merely removed. --

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Someone had vandalized the article by placing a pornographic picture in a section labeled "miscellaneous topics." I deleted it, but I'm not a proper member of Knowledge (XXG) so I thought I'd better drop a note here to let you know.

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relationship with the Germans is significant to Iran. It seems like it would be better placed in a seperate article detailing the history of the name of Iran, or Nazi Germany's odd relationship with the idea of Aryans/Iranians etc.

511:, but I've never heard anyone try to avoid using the term "Knesset" just because it's not English. But whether or not you call it the Majles depends on the context. "Rahbar" is totally different. I think its use should be limited. 360:

Yes it is. It is a breach in the internal affairs of a sovereign UN member state, which is illegal. We're not here on WP to promote certain groups to secede or to fight, or to do whatever our agenda dictates. Further translation:

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Fine that you implemented the change, but why did you go further and add back the Nazi reference, which people agreed on non-including. You don't seem to be helping your own cause of trying to discuss before making changes. --

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No the controversy is pretty much over now. The country is now usually called Iran, although in historical contexts it is sometimes be called Persia. The point that I was trying to make is that the decision was controversial

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I agree the article is a bit too long. Most of that is in the Politics and Economy sections (which could undoubtedly be trimmed to a limited extent without harming the content), but the length of the lead is fine. Also note

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Due to vandalisim of calling Iranians terroists and popups of telling people to vadalize this page I am going to put this page on protection by not letting non-admins edit. Thank you and please help to stop vandal attacks.

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to restate his comments so as to avoid escalating tensions in the middle east. I've also restructured the article a slight bit, setting "pre revolution" and "post revolution" sections for easier reference/reading. Cheers!

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which is what 'I' added becuase you always try and push just Persian Jew to create division amongst various ethncicities of Iranian background. Why don't you go make an article for Iranian Jews, which is a union of Jewish

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Sorry I have every right to question different aspects of articles, especially their POV issues. This is part of verifying the NPOV status of articles and is done only in good faith. The fact that I get shot down for even

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in my book is an absolute joke! Fine, do not have talk of the decades long label of state sponsor of terror, but please don't say that it is a POV that SG Annan stated that the comments made by Ahmadinejad were shocking!

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contradict that assertion. People can associate with more than one ethnic group, and can (and do) identify as culturally & hereditarily Jewish, even if they don't actively practice Judaism. The fact that you included

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Well, I edit Ahvaz topic on dec 2005 but nobody was disagree with me about popu. ... one of my relatives is in state ministry , she told me that Ahvaz is about 1,600,000 and they expect 2,500,000 on 2020. Even here:

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Knowledge (XXG) is truly being taken over by those who want only their opinions expressed, this is not the forum for that. Knowledge (XXG) should be a place to state the facts. Failure to mention condemnation by the

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Thanks Zora! Actual evidence! The linked article states that serious debates started in the 1980s, which seems to contradict the 'contraversial back then' claim. Also, the 'Bring Back Persia' linked article states:

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I'm not saying we should get rid of anything. Some stuff have to moved to other articles. Again, read what I've said above. These sort of stuff should not require an explanation. It's Knowledge (XXG) common sense.

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I just finished trimming the Political section, as much as it could take. I will leave the trimming of the economy section perhaps to one of our erudite editors, so that we can go ahead and submit our request for

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Ashmoo, the evidence is in the WP article to which readers are referred. There are multiple statements there saying that Iranians/Persians didn't agree re the name change. The article links to this 2005 essay

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Because it is just a theory. The name of Iran has been Iran for the last few hundred years, by putting that it came under influence of Nazsi's like how you have put it, makes it sound like it was a new name.

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There were seven people running for the post out of more than a thousand initial candidates, most of whom were disqualified by the Guardian Council, which holds veto power over all political candidates in

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That translation is wrong and it says seperation among manny things. The Arabs of Iran are very proud Iranians and fought in the highest numbers with Saddam and Iraq even with Saddam's Pan-Arab propaganda.

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spy actions that robbed Iran of any choice in leadership, and it's rather poorly worded to boot. There isn't any reason to shift this paragraph to one that is both lesser in information and in quality.

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Persian Jews have been living in secluded "Jewish ghettos") and they most certainly share a unique culture and language. Questioning the ethnicity of Persian Jews is simply absurd. Let me also re-quote

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Aucaman, 37k is not really that large. I think youre being a bit picky. But guidelines "are not policies" either. There is no mandate to implement them. Especially when there is a case. And the case of

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I consider this a personal attack. A very premature one. If there was a climate section and it's now missing, I've had nothing to do with it. I've made only two edits to this article. In the first one,

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it true, considering that this a total non-issue in Iran today. The section should be removed and the link to the naming dispute article moved to the links section where it belongs. Just a suggestion.

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as the southern most state. The Caucasian Mountains start in Northern Iran. Iran is also regionally part of the Central Asia and the Middle East. Within the Middle East there are sub-regions like the

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I agree that there is a lot of democratic elements in Iran, for example the elections in Parliment, but it is far from being a democracy, especially when these candidates need to be approved by the

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article and there were no complains - perhaps because I was dealing with an admin and not inexperienced users), but I'm short on time, so I thought it would be better to ask for help. Never mind!

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That looks pretty good to me too. That is assuming that there is actually debate in Iran over the name of the country. It would be good to get some actual evidence of the scope of the debate.

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Huh? If we have an article entitled Naming dispute, isn't that evidence of a dispute? Plus it seems kinda disingenuous to deny that there's a dispute when I've been berated for using Persia

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at large were 100% behind the Germans in the name change. Maybe you could a mention that there was internal opposition to the change, and very briefly describe the nature of the opposition?

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Can anyone help me gather all the information on some of the important foods of Iran ;) , I will start gathering information... But is it okay with other users? Oh and what are the rules? --

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becomes a weekly article improvement drive and gets extra sets of eyeballs and further improvement, or it is removed for not meeting the 3-vote-per-week requirement to stay as a candidate.

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I dont agree with GMotamedi. I think it is appropriate to use both English/Persian names such as "Iranian Parliament" and "Majles". Or "Supreme Leader" and "Rahbar". Obviously words like

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Someone took off the dispute tag, so I'm going to implement these changes for now. If someone has a problem they should use a dispute tag and then come here and discuss their problems.

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They are acceptable with a good rationale; however, it would be difficult to compose a sufficient rationale for these images, as they are not being discussed at length in the article.

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This is not a political forum of false Pan-Turkish ideals. But I do agree with you on one point I would like to see the Azerbaijani Republic as an whole within the boundaries of Iran.

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Nicely done. You clarified it and saved the specifics that detail the US and the UK interfering in the country's internal politics- and you've kept the paragraph NPOV too. Good job.

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Zora, you and Ahwaz take your separatist drivel somewhere else...this page is about Iran...and all of us are for the territorial integrity of Iran. One Iran, undivided and whole.

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countries have referred to Iran as Persia since the time of Achamenids. In 1935, as hitler was gaining power, the Iranian ambassador fell under the influence of the Nazi and asked

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Britain "apologizes" for terrorist act in Basra; Rescue of SAS men who were planning to place bombs in Basra City Square: Global Research.ca, Center for Research on Globalization

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That's all we know and that's all there is to it. The rest are speculations based on POV. They don't belong on this article, there should only be facts stated not speculations. --

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Iran now has nuclear weapons. Keeping with NPOV (That means not going off and calling people "terrorists", something should be written about this quickly-shifting tide of power.

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Thank you. I understand why the Politics section might have to be long (Iran has a complex political system), but I don't know about the Economy section. For one thing, based on

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ARTICLE is not even this long. I've never seen anything like this. All I'm saying is that some the information in the economy section of the Iran article should be moved to the

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lots of people migrate to Ahvaz every year, I know lots of Tehrani people who have Fast-Food restu. , Yazdis and Azeris who have bakeries, Sepahanis who have Beryoni restu. !

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thought the renaming would distance Iran from its history). If everything is as black-and-white as some people here say, then why do you think there's a "naming controversy"?

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The only thing khomeyni help doing, is executing hundreds of iranians and many other crimes, if you want to mention khomeyni in this page, mention him by what he really did.

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I'm putting this up here for comment. I was just going to change the "although" to a semi-colon, but when I started work, I decided that looked abrupt. Perhaps this will do?

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Also, if that's why you're taking them out you should probably take out Armenians, Assyrians and other groups for the same reason. But you only take out Persian Jews. Why?

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In any case what's wrong with calling the decision to change the name of the country "controversial"? The person reverting it is not also not participating in these talks.

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I never said anything about promoting it, but outside of Knowledge (XXG), why is it evil? A breach in the internal affairs of a sovereign UN member state? So I suppose all

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No, it isn`t censorship, it`s you refusing to accept refrences and going against consensus, yet again, while hidding under the protecting umbrella of being a neutral user.

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claimed to be a democracy too, does that make the USSR a democracy? Virtually every country claims to be democratic. Furthermore, most neutral third paries, for example

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featured on March 21st. But we dont have much time. Please peruse the article and enhance all that can be improved. Thanx. Anyone willing to take the lead for this?--

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Persian Jews are PERSIAN Jews. They are as Persian as Persian Muslims and all other Persians. I hate how ignorant fools try to disassociate Jews from everyone else.

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This strange act met no significant resistance at home, given the totalitarian nature of the regime, widespread illiteracy, and the intelligentsia's lack of insight.

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Please act civil. and do not turn discussions to a personal, racial, national, religious, cultural, local, international, political or historical or even family war!

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contradicting what he's saying, so I have no reason to believe what he's saying is wrong. Any further research into the specifics of this would probably fall under

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Concur with Zora. Only admins have the technical capability to protect a page; simply tagging it has no effect and is misleading. Please make a formal request at

3790:, but you wont because you do not want Kurds to be recognized as Iranians even though they are.....the Kurdish Jews even claim Ester (a Persian) as there mother. 1273:

As some of you can tell, I translated the verses in the culture section myself. If you think you can do a better job of translating them WITH RHYMES, go for it.--

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. So we shouldn't implement Knowledge (XXG)'s guidlines regarding style because they're not implemented in the US page?

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Israelis. This has resulte din an alliance between a very small minority of Iraqi Kurds and Israelis. Connect the dots with what is happening from Iraq to Iran.

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There's nothing wrong with calling it the Majles. It also doesn't have anything to do with history. The Iranian Majles is definitely older than the Israeli

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British Special Forces Caught Carrying Out Staged Terror In Iraq?: Media Blackout Shadows Why Black Op Soldiers Were Arrested: USA, Information Liberation

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verifies what youre saying anyway (about much older excavations existing). As far as I know, we have settlements dating back to pre-historic times there.--

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The next link is photographic evidence taken by Iraqi Police, before British Military attacked police station and freed the British terrorist operatives.

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Third and as a result if you have not enough source for an article it is not a good reason to become angry and provoke other newcomers against some users.

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crucial perspective to the existing decription of the counrty? Should there be an analysis area, or some contextual couching of the existing narrative?

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First your wording is very aggresive and provokes anti-pathy I do not believe it is encouraged in wikipedia. Attack or dispute? fighting or discussion?

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region too. Iran is also next to the Indian sub-continent which starts with Pakistan and in very close proximity to Europe which is just north of Iran.

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You keep bringing this up, but I think it is a red herring. As wikipedia editors we aren't allowed to speculate on why historical events happened. We

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I dont think we really need the milad tower image on the front page. (especially that it still isnt finished.) It already appears on the Tehran page.

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Part of Iran is in the Middle East, but the other half is in Central Asia. Shouldn't we describe it as both a Middle Eastern and Central Asian state?

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I asked for help regarding uploading an excellent 25 Meg video clip of Tehran University. I got no answer so far from any of the admins I consulted.

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Iran is usually included in Southwest Asia, not Central Asia. Having it be both in Southwest Asia and Central Asia would be confusing to the reader.

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The article is too long. I propose cutting down the Politics and the Economy section and moving useful information to the corresponding articles.

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Okay, I did some reseach (what you should have done if you were really that concerned) and it looks like the Climate section was taken out by

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The information is selective and based on some author's POV/speculation without any documents and certainly doesn't belong in the article. --

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On March 29, the Security Council adopted a statement that gave Iran 30 days to clear up suspicion that it wants to become a nuclear power.

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By the way, who knows the real pop. of NYC? in WP NYC's total pop. is 8 but Metropolitan area is 21 and meanwhile whole NY state is 18 !!!

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More job opportunities(Oil & Gas indus. , Steel indus. Petrochem. indus. ... ), cheaper life, universities, sport clubs, and and and.

4250: 3812:" in your list of examples and said there are "no racial differences" among Jews in Iran indicates that you're conflating ethnicity and 2750:'s article is a good enough source? Do you have any reason to believe this is not true? And no, the section is not neutral as it stands 3969:"Persepolis Recreated" is the name of the most recent documentary film , which is available and you can view here online at this site: 1071: 673: 582:

proclaimed that both "Iran" and "Persia" are appropriate is beyond me - it is an extremely moot point, and probably a POV one at that.

483:, etc..., are part of the English vocabulary. The "Majlis" of Iran isnt any different. It is a unique assembly of power in the world.-- 5402:

Even someone as hot-blooded as Mahmoud isn't going to obliterate both his own nation and the nation he wants to "liberate". Comments?

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featured as a featured page. But I have made sure that it will be listed on the main page as a holiday in the "On this day" section.--

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The suggestion for the change is said to have come from the Iranian ambassador to Germany, who came under the influence of the Nazis.

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The suggestion for the change is said to have come from the Iranian ambassador to Germany, who came under the influence of the Nazis.

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I'd like to propose that we vote on this issue (otherwise, the picture will keep changing as different users have different tastes):

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I just trimmed down the history section as far as possible. This is as short as it can get without substantial loss of information.--

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rather than trying to present a thesis. Unless you have I better cite than this, I don't think it meets WP:Verifiability. Regards,

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Does anybody know how to upload a clip to WP? I reckon it must be thru Wikicommons. But Im not sure about the logistical details.--

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I am surprised to see that there is no mention of meaning or root word description for the term "Iran". Somebody could contribute.

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Broad statement based on speculations shouldn't be included in the article. There is no data of what Iranian think or believe. --

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Abadan+khoramshahr are a little smaller than Ahvaz (Abadan Khoramshahr are stick together, only one street far from each other)

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A dream in which one tries to visualize the beauty and dazzling splendor of Persepolitan palaces before their sad destruction.

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Pending fix of pre-existing tasks (see opentask box above). Once those are all addressed Peer Review will immediately follow.

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Haha well the dance was quite surprising really, but no it looked like everything was done with Salavats and Allaho'akbars --

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history" dates back 3000BC. There's a difference. Excavations do not necessarily imply written history. Besides, the article

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And if you thought it was just some hostile so called anti-Iranian editors trying to erase the memory of Iran, think again.

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fact that the Tehran regime is Armenia's number one trading partner, supplier of oil and natural gas, protector, and ally.

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belonged in that box, just that it is an applicable topic. Please put it in the categorization you think it belongs in

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problem. This an encyclopedia afterall, and many of these allegations are suitable for newspaper articles, not here.

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Iranians still differ strongly as to whether, when speaking English, Iran or Persia should be the preferred term. See

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Im sick and tired of fighting these Iranophobes. WP has turned into a magnet for such twisted agendas of separatists.

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That's what we are working on here: trying to accurately represent Iran. You can help us out by contributing! Thanx!--

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The United States article is around 72KB, Israel is 41KB, Russia is 47KB. A large article size does not seem unusual.

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Why word it at all?, that part does not belong there, it belongs to an article about iranian revolution for examlpe.

4175:. Therefore, I am rewording it to read "theocracy with democratic elements", as I believe this to be more accurate. 922:

Ahem, Zereshk and myself are very experienced editors here, and we've been around longer than you it seems. Thanks.

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It really depends on what one considers as 'democracy' - IR of Iran certainly doesn't meet my criteria for it! --

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So I uploaded the video clip file to my own website, and provided links instead. You can see the clip by going to

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article. How can the summary of an article be as long as the article itself? (They both seem around 9 paragraphs.)

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They fabricate and manipulate information and I for one 100% agree that these individuals must be complained on.

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I agree, it's not a particularly good picture as it's hazy. Maybe a picture of agriculture or oil instead? --

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As those of you keeping up on all things Iran already know, Mahmoud went out and publicly stated (again) that

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I just finished constructing the following article from scratch. Please feel free to edit, if you see errors:

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It says: "khomeyni helped transform Iran into a constitutional theocratic republic with democratic elements."

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I dont see anywhere that he has 'decided' to do so? those are all 'proposed' ideas, correct me if I am wrong.

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were everyone fights each other like in Yugoslavia. And who wins with fabricated ethnic disputes? Guess who!

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Being a poetry crazed people, the page seriously needed a verse or two to reflect on that character of Iran.

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guidelines, which call for brief summaries. (Although they are only guidelines, if this article is to become

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does not suggest they are a seperate ethnicity, so why should they be listed as a seperate ethnicity group?

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This hanging was not the first one and does not fit in this section. This should not ever be added again.

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That is an invalid argument. Just because Iran claims to be a democracy does not make it one. The former

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I still don't know why my additions were removed without any reasons. It simply puts things in context.

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And also, I made the badly needed doogh template. (How can yall live without it for crying out loud??)--

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Looks awkward in the middle of the article. Perhaps we should delete, or maybe create a gallery page?

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If everything is a clear-cut as you say, then could you tell me why the decision was reversed in 1959?

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How shall we describe the Council statment, in relation to Iran's development of enriched uranium? --

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because most non-Iranians had never heard the term "Iran". This should be reflected in the article.

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article. This is a no brainer. Normally I would take the initiative myself (I just did this for the

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before declaring that the article on Iran mustn't include Jews in its list of Iranian ethnicities.—

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text that came directly from Britannica, but that should be dealt with over there, not over here.

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Yes, of course. I'm still rather new around here, so I'm still getting used to the terminology.

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Thats your particular view, and it happens to be a view that is not backed up by any evidence.-

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If they were an ethnic group then other sources such as Cia factbook would list them as such. --

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Now go and read the folowing articles and get back to me with a response (I expect an apology):

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The anti-Iranian edits of these users has led several editors to report the 3 editors above to

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Im basically asking all Iranian editors to keep an eye on these pages (listed). That's all.--

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berated for using Iran, right here on Knowledge (XXG). There seems to be some disagreement!

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Please kindly help us to safeguard the historical territorial integrity of the land of Iran.

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They are doing the work of western intelligence agencies that specifically intend to bring

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By "sources" you mean that one sentence which does not mention the word "Persian Jews"? --

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The Jews trace their heritage in Iran to the Babylonian Exile of the 6th century BC and,

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I wouldn't complain if you took it out, but the article does have to be reduced in size.

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CIA factbook? The source used for the population of major cities is the World Gazetteer

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If I am correct (by WP guidelines), this vote ballot will endure for one week. Thanx.--

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This statment says it all about that region and goes beyond its statement about Iran.

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I dont know how long that box will last though, since it seems, unfortunately, that

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Persian Jews are not any different to Persians beside their religion, thats why. --

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like the Armenians, have retained their ethnic, linguistic, and religious identity.

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the actions of the current administration to intice hatred towards the Baha'is. --

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to find out (and fix) objections in advance (before they appear on FAC). If we get

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The article doesn't suggest that Khomeini made Iran anything democratic. It says "

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So I take it that fair-use images are not acceptable, rationale or no rationale?--

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To all our Kurdish, Afghan, Indian, Azeri, Turkish, Tajik, Uzbek, Asian brothers:

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the comment. He has a history of just removing my edits without much explanation.

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Yes, but do you have any evidence that the decision was controversial back then?

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Second what you mean by linking to an article about western intelligence agencies

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of the main article, but the Economy section of the article seems as long as the

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Also, if you try to edit the article, you'd see this comment on top of the page:

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Basra Council Cutting Ties with British: China Radio International (CRI), China

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Anglo-American Forces and Israel are fostering these artificual problems in Iran

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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breakthrough. Clearly they want to become or are already now, a nuclear power.

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The Islamic republic was soon established after the revolution led by Khomeini

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So hearsay from an anonymous user is supposedly better than the CIA Factbook?

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because it is ignoring the real reasons and causes behind the change in name.

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Please read what I said above. The article is 43KB. Short is under 20KB. Read

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secessionism here on WP. Let the world turn as it wants to. That's my point.--

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It has come to my attention that it would be a splendid task if we could get

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an ethnic group and a religious group. In this regard they're similar to the

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rely of 3rd party analyses of events and provide cites to them in our edits.

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appropriate for pages about the ancient Iranian religions (Zoroasterianism).

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Indeed Iran was forced under threat of Russian military invasion to sign the

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without a poll -- but it's clear to me that dissent hasn't died completely.

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on his page (again, what you should have done if you were that concerned).

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something? The evidence is out there; it just requires a small inference.

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issued a decree asking foreign delegates to use the Persian-language term

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give the impression that the name change was caused by popular demand. --

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But the bandwidth on my website is limited. IOW, this is a temporary fix.

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Iran is a hybrid that is part of the claimed places. Politically it is in

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I think you guys are right. The Economy section could use some trimming.--

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I've provided sources that say they have retained their ethnic identity.

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Even if it did, we do not use other Knowledge (XXG) articles as sources.

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I have tried to make the wording better, let me know what you think --

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The second to last sentence in the lead section states that Iran is a

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I second that, Happy Norouz to everyone. May you have a great year.--

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Agreed. It does not give such an impression and seems neutral to me.

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status (whereas the article when submitted last time would not have).

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period, Persian-speaking Iranians have referred to their country as

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Ive finished filling in all article gaps for Pahlavi era section of

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Gazeteer. Are the official Iranian census figures online anywhere?

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http://imp.lss.wisc.edu/~aoliai/languagepage/iranianlanguages.htm

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Basra council severs relations with British: Daily Star, Lebanon

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Update: The three (out of eight) images that are fair use are of

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as long as the information can be verified to be from that source

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to get the page temporarily protected or semi-protected. Thanks.

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is once again being attacked by extreme anti-Khomeinist vandals.

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Im fine with waiting longer and weeding out more imperfections.--

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The independence of Khuzestan Arabs is an "evil idea"? Hmmm... --

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Diyako is trying to delete yet another Iranian related article:

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Is the cleanup tag actually necessary? The article isn't messy.

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http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/february/indoIranianBranch.html

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continued then no problem I'll nominate that page for deletion.

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Which of the following pics do you deem most befitting for the

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for saying I have "deleted many section people worked hard on".

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If provided with a source, as was done for the 800,000 figure

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It sounds to me like this is the case for this comment of his.

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which Southwest Asia is a divison of. Geographically it is in

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Just look at the Economy section. It's 9 paragraphs long. The

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Troops free SAS men from jail: The Telegraph, United Kingdom

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Template, which is used everywhere on Iranian history pages?

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1/4 of whole armed forces of Iran are living in Khouzestan.

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in formal correspondence. After Persian scholars protested,

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Ayatollah Khomeini gained much popularity between Iranians

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Well you're being extremely vague. Here's the statement: "

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that it is nigh unusable. Please, let's keep this short!

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article and not the main Iran article. Think about that.

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http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2005/sgsm10258.doc.htm

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Khouzestan is one the most important provinces of Iran.

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1.2 million people in Khorramshahr? Are you kidding me?

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Thanx for the vote y'all. We'll keep it as it is then.--

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may i remind you that this is an english language site?

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Hey, yes his rule was dictatorial however "but crushed

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Do you what this means? It means the article requires

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Iran accuses UK of bombing link: BBC, United Kingdom

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Why remove note saying to see naming dispute article?

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What you mean without any documents? You don't think

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Knowledge (XXG):Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

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Please feel free to add info to the new accompanying

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name" thing, which we kept out of the main article.

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and accuse some wikipedians to be supported by them?

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Some editors are in the process of erasing the page

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Iran, Iraq, Caucasia, and the Middle East are being

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Persepolis Recreated - Reconstruction of Persepolis

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See 199:which is constantly attacked by Turkish editors. 4962: 4019:for example. They have more than one gallery.-- 3660:been discussed before proves the high level of 2377:powerful, and respected PERSIAN country again! 5035:Well, they certainly cleared up any lingering 4671:OK, but what about World Gaze. is it accurate? 3271:on his talk page. He did not respond and just 1388:, the following should probably happen first: 950:'s page is a special one indeed. Not just the 2028:the first time the ideas of monotheism, the " 8: 5416:From the Library of Congress Country Study: 3954:Persepolis Recreated - The Movie Documentary 3719:NOW MOVE ON AN EDIT OTHER IRANIAN ARTICLES. 2036:, which in English, the term may refer to a 384:active autonomist and secessionist movements 323:Thanks for the translation Heja Helweda. -- 5469:http://www.bartleby.com/61/99/A0449900.html 5039:with the dance party they threw over their 4550:2005-2006 US-Israeli threats to attack Iran 1910:Vote is now over. Thank You all for voting. 243:Can we have a translation then. Thanks -- 3704:in the WP article devoted to the dispute. 2512:Diyako's latest attack on Iranian articles 407:I think the translation was clear enough: 4477:say Persian Jews are not an ethnic group. 3829:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Ethnic groups 1964:I agree, First one can hardly be seen..-- 634:, I just added a cleanup tag. Now please 121:Important message for all Iranian editors 4963:So don't talk about it at all? Come on!! 2048:; it is the origin of the English words 1766:is a better authority than me on this.-- 5461: 4536:, we can surely mention it of course.-- 4325:It's a minor ethnic group. That's why. 1607:. It could be mentioned here as well. — 4406:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 1255:, which i still lacking in that area. 1072:Knowledge (XXG):How to break up a page 760:load the page the way it currently is. 674:Knowledge (XXG):How_to_break_up_a_page 363:WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A POLITICAL PLATFORM. 226:Of course you may. Sorry about that.-- 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 4045:Only admins are supposed to do that. 2569:" It's from his well-published paper 1520:Azeris are ethnic Iranians and proud. 1074:, each section is supposed to have a 596:paragraphs the way they are now. But 540:You are right. "Majles" is correct.-- 7: 5390:Latest remarks from Iran's President 4641:is 8 million ! can you believe it ? 4204:First of all please remain calm and 3439:Am I understanding this correctly? 1627: 1318: 1287: 409:Promoting secessionism on WP is evil 5313:which led to the Iranian revolution 4251:Iranian presidential election, 2005 2561:from a well-respected Iranologist, 670:Knowledge (XXG):No_personal_attacks 2363:Fortunately thats not your call.-- 1742:political boxes be removed from WP 411:. It's not your or my business to 24: 4603:Have you ever been to Khouzestan? 3976:State repression of homosexuality 3756:ethnic group. See the article on 3040:Would this do for a name section? 1495:pages. Please feel free to add.-- 1384:Before we submit this article on 313:Thank you for the confirmation.-- 4829:Thank God for such congressmen: 3094:could be used interchangeably. 2485:New addition to Iranian articles 1631: 1322: 653:. That's all I was pointing out. 29: 4281:from Britannica Encyclopedia: " 2536:Vandal attacks over at Khomeini 2437:. Please voice your opinions.-- 2246:"violent fragmentation" to Iran 2221:The fighting is also going in: 2203:Another attack on Iranian pages 1347:List of Prime Ministers of Iran 3984:For those who are interested: 3912:To all our friends worldwide: 3883:Update: We're too late to get 1984:"Miscellaneous topics" deleted 1740:(WP founder) has decided that 1603:The etymology may be found in 1: 5412:Jews of Iran an ethnic group? 3190:Looks good to me as well. -- 2480:23:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC) 2403:Heja Helweda, Diyako, Aucaman 2368:23:42, 24 February 2006 (UTC) 2356:23:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC) 2324:22:54, 24 February 2006 (UTC) 2306:22:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC) 2253:21:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC) 2193:21:11, 24 February 2006 (UTC) 2144:21:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC) 2124:upload video files to Commons 2117:20:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC) 2086:08:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC) 2070:22:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC) 2014:02:29, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1994:01:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1979:09:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC) 1969:22:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1959:11:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1945:04:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1900:22:44, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1892:22:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1884:21:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1876:11:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1866:05:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 1858:04:55, 10 February 2006 (UTC) 285:Hi, here is the translation: 3656:certain questions that have 3086:in 1959 announced that both 2213:"such a term does not exist" 2130:B: in the right format (see 2000:looks like the image was on 1940:is also a very good choice. 1927:12:22, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 1842:12:22, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 1834:00:54, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 1819:00:54, 9 February 2006 (UTC) 1771:00:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC) 1749:04:13, 5 February 2006 (UTC) 1731:12:34, 4 February 2006 (UTC) 1676:01:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC) 1667:00:08, 28 January 2006 (UTC) 1617:03:11, 27 January 2006 (UTC) 1598:02:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC) 1583:21:43, 26 January 2006 (UTC) 1573:21:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC) 1551:16:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC) 1500:05:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC) 1491:Ive finished working on the 1482:05:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC) 1472:02:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC) 1379:23:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC) 1360:09:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC) 1278:23:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC) 1260:07:01, 20 January 2006 (UTC) 1238:10:16, 18 January 2006 (UTC) 1194:09:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 1184:06:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 1168:07:43, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 1156:06:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 1142:07:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC) 1122:00:02, 18 January 2006 (UTC) 1089:21:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 1042:20:12, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 1004:16:46, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 967:09:46, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 927:07:24, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 906:07:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 869:07:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 841:07:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 808:06:52, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 795:06:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 783:06:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 770:06:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 740:06:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 723:06:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 706:07:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 683:06:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 620:06:10, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 607:06:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 587:03:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 575:03:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 564:17:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC) 545:06:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC) 532:04:01, 16 January 2006 (UTC) 518:16:50, 16 January 2006 (UTC) 499:21:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC) 488:02:07, 15 January 2006 (UTC) 449:08:28, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 420:07:35, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 391:07:22, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 370:05:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 352:05:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 328:13:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 318:05:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 308:05:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 269:04:45, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 248:01:15, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 231:01:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 218:00:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC) 208:06:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC) 142:Ethnic politics of Khuzestan 116:00:44, 10 January 2006 (UTC) 5070:I hope you meant "NPOV" :) 3816:, which is a separate topic 2132:Knowledge (XXG):Media#Video 1374:being a featured article?-- 281:Translation of the Comments 5509: 5456:08:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC) 5445:19:44, 16 April 2006 (UTC) 5426:17:02, 16 April 2006 (UTC) 5407:11:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC) 5365:13:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC) 5338:11:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC) 5277:Khomeyni helped what?? 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