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in the lead of this article; therefore, I'm going to remove that link. There's also a link to someone's personal website in the list – especially considering no other item in the list has an external link, I'm going to remove that too. Please let me know if you object to either of these changes here.
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Sourcing IRC clients for articles and this list has historically been difficult; for old clients, sources may be out of print and/or only available offline. For new clients, typically nothing is written about them in independent publications. It takes time to find sources, be patient. But please
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Could you please explain why you are massively removing content without prior discussion? Knowledge (XXG) is not a top site. If a given client went unmaintained, but was originally meeting the notability criterion, it should be moved to a separate section perhaps.
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Because I didn't see the banner before making my removal and instead independently came up with The Banner's criteria of requiring a standalone article. That banner is a decade old and I'm not sure of the degree it reflects consensus in 2024, if it ever did.
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which discuss the client in a few paragraphs, or one "excellent" source which discusses it extensively. These inclusion criteria are the result of long, painful discussion; see the Talk archives, above.
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Adiirc is not missing, it fails the selection criteria for inclusion. For starters, it has no own article on the English-language Knowledge (XXG). Without such article, it can not be included. Sorry.
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So, could you reconsider now and revert these changes, after reading through the banner and consensus formed on past discussions as per the archived talk pages? -
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The table under "Release history" has an error I can't figure out. It's pretty visible. Would someone better versed in this take a look? Thanks.
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No, because I am not bound by discussions over a decade old and I think that decision was wrong. And consider the more recent discussion at
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Let's just start with a concrete question. "HydraIRC" is mentioned in the banner as an acceptable inclusion. Why was it deleted then? -
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is established, or they must be verifiable using independent reliable sources which discuss the client. In addition to an optional
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A rigid consensus on inclusion criteria for this list has not been reached, but this is the gist of what has been wrangled so far:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110831124745/http://www.irc-junkie.org/2010-02-03/limechat-for-the-mac-releases-version-1-5/
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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You talked about notability as the rationale behind your removals, while the banner elaborates:
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https://web.archive.org/web/20090507061510/http://en.ntalk.de/Nettalk/en/index.php?page=Download
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https://web.archive.org/web/20110728124548/http://www.reactos.org/compat/?show=entry&id=285
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https://web.archive.org/web/20090912170438/http://wiki.flashtux.org/WeeChat_cygwin
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is required for this list, not general notability(required for article topics)."
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Adiirc irc-client is missing from the page, here's the homepage of the client:
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http://www.irc-junkie.org/2010-02-03/limechat-for-the-mac-releases-version-1-5/
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ircii had the original xdcc script authored by some idiot whose name slips me
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IRC clients added to this list must either have their own article, in which
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source (the author), the client must be supported by either two "passable"
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after extensive discussion; these have been cited in the list.
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And adding each and every package, will make it fall foul of
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Linking to project-space in an article (plus external link)
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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Examples: these clients each have two "passable" sources:
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