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eagerly looked to for advice. You want to improve an article on a subject that you know nothing about and don't have the faintest clue about what is a reasonable question to ask. You don't want to piss me off yet that is inevitable given that you refuse to actually read the background material about the subject you are trying to write about. You are putting effort into this I can see from your sandbox, but no amount of such effort negates ignorance. Read the source material.
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This simply isn't good enough for wikipedia. I know US experts (generally) have global influence, but we need to have this referenced from a credible second or third party source. As this is something sort-of-fresh of the table, it really begs its encyclopedic value until it actually has been tested
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