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Smokeing is bad and not health for u .you can die form lung caner so call now 1800-stopsmokeing and they will help u to stop smokeing and keep u smoke free for year just call that number and stop smokeing today there a lot of smokeing company that say it make u younger and feel good but it don't it
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