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Those sources were challenged, reasons provided. The first source was released before the renewal, making it outdated and therefore useless to the argument at hand. But hey, you've got great detective skills. And you're more than welcome to hold an RFC or post to WP:TV, given that it is you trying to
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You are still not here to discuss the revert, then, just to try to drive your own point home. You have presented zero arguments in the face of it, and one cannot seek consensus if you refuse to actually discuss it. Do you want to discuss it and have me seek consensus, or not? If you cannot provide a
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is a policy. The content you've added is being challenged, based on the fact that what you're adding is the opinion of a single reviewer, and that is the only website that you are citing, and the only one you are able to, as the series is referred to as such in such a minimal manner. Understand that
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reviewer that says "miniseries" twice in the article does not necessarily solidify the content as true; it needs to be referred to as such by a wide range of sources to be true and not just by one reviewer. If that one article did not exist and the personal review (so not exactly a reliable source,
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implement your edits on the apparent miniseries status of the series. I'm not implementing anything here, I'm restoring the article to how it's been since its creation. But until you do so and gain a consensus for your contested bold edits, the status quo remains.
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