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therefore terminate in 1798. At that time a French army entered Rome and made the pope a prisoner, and he died in exile. Though a new pope was soon afterward elected, the papal hierarchy has never since been able to wield the power which it before possessed. The persecution of the church did not continue throughout the entire period of the 1260 years. God in mercy to His people cut short the time of their fiery trial. In foretelling the "great tribulation" to befall the church, the Saviour said: "Except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." Matthew 24:22. Through the influence of the Reformation the persecution was brought to an end prior to 1798. Concerning the two witnesses the prophet declares further: "These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth." "Thy word," said the psalmist, "is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Revelation 11:4; Psalm 119:105. The two witnesses represent the Scriptures of the Old and the New Testament. Both are important testimonies to the origin and perpetuity of the law of God. Both are witnesses also to the plan of salvation. The types, sacrifices, and prophecies of the Old Testament point forward to a Saviour to come. The Gospels and Epistles of the New Testament tell of a Saviour who has come in the exact manner foretold by type and prophecy. "They shall prophecy a thousand two hundred and three-score days, clothed in sackcloth." During the greater part of this period, God's witnesses remained in a state of obscurity. The papal power sought to hide from the people the word of truth, and set before them false witnesses to contradict its testimony. (See Appendix.) When the Bible was proscribed by religious and secular authority; when its testimony was perverted, and every effort made that men and demons could invent to turn the minds of the people from it; when those who dared proclaim its sacred truths were hunted, betrayed, tortured, buried in dungeon cells, martyred for their faith, or compelled to flee to mountain fastnesses, and to dens and caves of the earth--then the faithful witnesses prophesied in sackcloth. Yet they continued their testimony throughout the entire period of 1260 years. In the darkest times there were faithful men who loved God's word and were jealous for His honor. To these loyal servants were given wisdom, power, and authority to declare His truth during the whole of this time. (....) "When they shall have finished their testimony." The period when the two witnesses were to prophesy clothed in sackcloth, ended in 1798. As they were approaching the termination of their work in obscurity,

791:"When they shall have finished their testimony," that is, "in sackcloth." the sackcloth state ended, or as elsewhere expressed the days of persecution were shortened (Matthew 24: 22), before the period itself expired. "A 'beast' in prophecy, denotes a kingdom, or power. (See Daniel 7: 17, 23.) The question now arises, When did the sackcloth state of the witnesses close? And did such a kingdom as described make war on them at the time spoken of? If we are correct in fixing upon A.D. 583 as the time of the commencement of the sackcloth state, forty-two months being the 1260 prophetic days, or years, would bring us down to A.D. 1798. About this time, then, did such a kingdom as described appear, and make war on them, this beast, or kingdom, is out of the bottomless pit--no foundation--an atheistical power--'spiritually Egypt.' (See Exodus 5: 2:'Pharaoh said, Who is the Lord, that I should obey His voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord, neither will I let Israel go.') Here is atheism. Did any kingdom, about 1798 manifest the same spirit?--Yes, France; she denied the being of God in her national capacity, and made war on the 'Monarchy of heaven.' "In the year 1793, . . . the gospel was, by a solemn act of the Legislature and the people abolished in France. (Continues for two pages about the Bible and France.) Uriah Smith, 758:--the beast from the bottomless pit--was to arise to make open, avowed war upon the word of God. "The great city" in whose streets the witnesses are slain, and where their dead bodies lie, is "spiritually" Egypt. Of all nations presented in Bible history, Egypt most boldly denied the existence of the living God and resisted His commands. (....) According to the words of the prophet, then, a little before the year 1798 some power of satanic origin and character would rise to make war upon the Bible. And in the land where the testimony of God's two witnesses should thus be silenced, there would be manifest the atheism of the Pharaoh and the licentiousness of Sodom. This prophecy has received a most exact and striking fulfillment in the history of France. (Continues about the French Revolution for the rest of the chapter.) During the Revolution, in 1793. Ellen White, 1434:

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1,260 days. The most important 'allusion', however, is the fulfillment of chapter eleven of the Book of Daniel being a past occurrence now, something which wikipedia has great difficulty in realizing because when prophet Daniel was given the prophecy, the Giver of the prophecy was not chained to the "five pillars", nor the wiki-this nor the wiki-that. Knowledge needs to think outside its man-made bun which just doesn't apply to texts written outside of it in the first place, texts which, ultimately, have no need of wikipedia, nor its tyranny. - Prophet of the Most High -

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Prophets. The early church has two examples of the witnesses as the two testaments. A revision of Tyconius, found in the Turin fragments, has this. And this view is listed with many others by Beatus of Liebana. The same identification returned with the Reformation and had several people espousing it after the French Revolution. Since the mid-1800s, I am only aware of Adventists promoting this view.

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who were contemporaries of the author of Revelation (e.g., the Apostles, Peter and Paul). For symbols, some have chosen to see many individuals (e.g., part or all of the Christian church), while others have chosen to see non-personal entities (e.g., the Law and the Prophets or the Old and the New Testaments).

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where it is implied that the two olive trees are taken to represent the word of God. Says George Croly: "The 'Two Witnesses' are the Old and New Testaments." These declarations and considerations are sufficient to sustain the conclusion that the Old and New Testaments are Christ's two witnesses.(....) Verse 7

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I would propose a separate fourth section for the two witnesses as sacred writings. Granted that Adventists are the only ones who seem to be espousing this today, but it has a history before Adventists existed. Under this section, one could also note those who see the two witnesses as the Law and the

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Others have proposed Moses, for his ability to turn water into blood and the power to send plagues on the earth (Exodus 7:17-21; 9:13-14; Revelation 11:6). His companion would be Elijah the prophet, predicted to return (Malachi 4:5-6) and who prevented it from raining in Israel in the days of Ahab (1

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Interpreters have understood the two witnesses to be two individuals or a symbol or a combination of the literal and the symbolic. For individuals, some have chosen to see two people who will appear in the future (e.g., Enoch and Elijah returning to earth), while others have chosen to see two people

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whether one views it as futurist men who walk and prophesy or as historic fulfilled in the banning of the Bible. The article lacks the Historicst view and presents the Futurist view as conclusion (ie., "Two Witnesses are prophets"). Uriah Smith and Ellen White wrote of the events of Revelation 11 as

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The text includes allusions to previously recorded miraculous events, as in my stopping the heavens for 3.5 years ca. 3,000 years ago. The parallels to chapter eleven of the Book of Revelation and chapter eleven of the Book of Daniel are astounding, especially as regards the use of 3.5 years, aka

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The Two Witnesses.--During this time of 1260 years the witnesses are in a state of sackcloth, or obscurity, and God gives them power to endure and maintain their testimony through that dark and dismal period. But who or what are these witnesses? Evident allusion is here made to Zechariah 4: 11-14,

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I cleaned up excessive links in the "see also" section. The article on the Second Coming isn't near this detailed, this article is about the two witnesses (who are rarely mentioned compared to the Second Coming) it is 'not' a textbook for eschatological differences (yes, good, cover them for this

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I am Joseph of THEE tribe of Joseph I am one of two witnesses I have witnessed THEE BOTTOMLESS PIT open and the Wicked pour out APONE earth. I've seen the coming in the clouds, Heaven come down to earth, I've seen Jesus Christ in the clouds and on the cross as in the flesh. I've seen Michael THEE

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The early Christian writer, Hippolytus of Rome, concluded that the two witnesses would be Enoch and Elijah, the two individuals who did not experience death according to other biblical passages (Genesis 5:24; 2 Kings 2:10-11; Hebrews 11:5). This is the earliest proposed identification for the two

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It is YOUR view that it is a symbol no matter what, other people have interpretted it in different ways. The article already says different people see them as "two literal individuals who may be present now, a symbolic concept (e.g., the Old and New Testaments of the Bible), or two corporate

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Revelation 11:2-11. The periods here mentioned--"forty and two months," and "a thousand two hundred and threescore days"--are the same, alike representing the time in which the church of Christ was to suffer oppression from Rome. The 1260 years of papal supremacy began in A.D. 538, and would

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Symbolic interpretations become more prevalent in the literature with the coming of the Reformation. For example, Heinrich Bullinger identifies the witnesses as all the faithful preachers who from 763 CE until the final judgment oppose the antichrist, which he understands to be the Papacy.

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The article does not reflect neutrality as there is a Historicst view not presented. When sourced edits were made it was removed. Seventh-day Adventist pioneers Uriah Smith and Ellen white wrote about the two witnesses being fulfilled at the time of the French Revolution. (Smith, Uriah,

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Other contemporaries of the author of Revelation have been proposed instead of these: James, the brother of Jesus, and Peter; James, the brother of Jesus, and John; James and John, the sons of Zebedee; two unnamed Christian prophets active during the first Jewish War; and others.

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I believe there are better references for this section. For example, the citation of Bullinger is misleading. Bullinger in his Apocalypse commentary proposed the two witnesses as two currently unknown individuals who will appear in the future. See Ethelbert William Bullinger,

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Within the scenario of the Revelation predictions, they are two specific people, and not two random witnesses such as may be found at the scene of an incident or waiting about in some courthouse/etc, and thus may merit being called the Two Witnesses with capitals as a

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This is quite an exotic idea considering the fact that corporations did not symbolise peoples in biblical times (if they even do now.) If this is a concept in biblical scholarship it still requires some citation otherwise this excerpt should be removed.

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entities symbolizing peoples," "the witnessing church," "Moses and Elijah," "Enoch and Elijah," or "two Jewish prophets in the period of the 70th Week of Daniel." It goes on to say that "Their description as "two olive trees and two lampstands" may be

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Another example is the proposal of David Pareus. He identifies the witnesses as a succession of individuals, whether preachers, teachers, princes, or kings, who maintain true religion opposite antichrist, which he understands to be the Papacy.

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Every view under the sun? The Historicist school is in the sidebar, and this page needs to comply. The sources are from SDA since they are the Historicist. Ellen White's Great Controversy has an entire chapter called

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It had been Rome's policy, under a profession of reverence for the Bible, to keep it locked up in an unknown tongue and hidden away from the people. Under her rule the witnesses prophesied "clothed in sackcloth."

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The earliest symbolic interpretation of the two witnesses is that proposed by the 4 century commentator, Tyconius. He concludes the witnesses represent the church prophesying by means of the two testaments.

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The quote by Bullinger is referenced as being in 1889, but specificlly mentions events which occurred after that date (e.g. death of Queen Victoria). If the quote is accurate, the date must be incorrect.

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Some commentators have concluded that the two witnesses were the Jewish high priests, Ananus and Jesus, who were killed during the turmoil in Jerusalem prior to the destruction of the city in 70 CE.

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witnesses. This view is evident outside of early interpretive or apologetical Christian literature. For example, the apocryphal Gospel of Nicodemus (also known as Acts of Pilate) states …

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Others have proposed two people who are now unknown to the world who will appear in the future as the witnesses. They may be seen as coming “in the spirit” of the prophets of old.

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subject). This isn't the portal page for various eschatological views, it is a page on a small subject within eschatology. The links by and large were only remotely related.

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In attempting to interpret Revelation 11, commentators have generally understood the two witnesses in one of four ways or as a combination of two or more of these ways:

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Again, citations are not horseshoes. The pages you cited in your addition to the article did not contain the information you added. Your addition to the article cited

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Sodom and Egypt). The lead states as fact the witnesses are literal when the next verse says they are candlesticks. Why have you not included the Historicist view?

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Agreed. I commented out the image for now, as I don't see any mention that it is even related to the two witnesses, and the source of the image is unavailable. ~

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Kings 17:1; Luke 4:25; James 5:17; Revelation 11:6). These two appeared with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration (Matthew 17:1-8; Mark 9:1-8; Luke 9:28-36).

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More recently, some commentators follow the thought of Tyconius and conclude that the witnesses are the Christian church, during a certain period of history.

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In many of the nations of Europe the powers that ruled in church and state had for centuries been controlled by Satan through the medium of the papacy.

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Still others propose that the two witnesses are the apostles, Peter and Paul. This was argued most extensively by the Danish scholar, Johannes Munck.

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Similar to this type of proposal is to see the witnesses as models for Christian testimony in action for the audience of Revelation.

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Others see the two witnesses as representing only part of the Christian church, such as the martyrs, the teachers, or the prophets.

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has no clear relation to the subject. There is nothing in the text that discusses the subject of the image, "measuring the temple".

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The introduction to the exegetical section is not general enough and seems to favor a dispensationalist reading of the passage.

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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as individuals appearing in the future, being either two returning biblical figures or two presently unknown figures;

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war was to be made upon them by the power represented as "the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit."

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I have removed the quote and the surrounding material. It all was straying off the "Two Witnesses" subject.

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as a corporate and personal symbol, such as the martyrs or the totality of the Christian church;

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Out of twenty or so mentions in the article itself, only three capitalize it ("Two Witnesses").

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These two were murdered in the Streets of Future of Earth. . Who exactly was their murderer??

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as to how they should be linked. But if someone has a better method, please give it a try. --

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Petrus und Paulus in der Offenbarung Johannis: Ein Beitrag zur Auslegung der Apokalypse

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This is what I propose for the third section, but I would add a few more references:

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as a non-personal symbol, such as the Old and the New Testaments or mercy and grace.

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I would propose that after the introductory sentence it should say as follows:

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Others see the two witnesses as representing Israel and the Christian church.

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In Divinam Apocalypsin S. Apostoli Et Evangelistæ Johannis Commentarius

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Proposal for Exegesis section 2: Individuals who were contemporaries

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as individuals who were contemporaries of the author of Revelation;

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But you know what? When I have time, I'll go through and cite the

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Most of the citations currently in this article attempt to use the

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But here is brought to view a new manifestation of satanic power.

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The introductory paragraph to this page is not general enough.

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The lead in is not neutral since it presents a Futurist view.

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The section doesn't contain a single citation and is rubbish

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Proposal for Exegesis section 3: Symbol for God's people

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