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Otherwise, my request is that you (Bobrayner) recuse yourself; your actions have been questionable and you are a novice without mediation experience. Yet, this
Mediation Cabal case should remain active ("Cases needing mediators") because there is the possibility that an experienced Mediator(s) will
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Perhaps there has been some misunderstanding, skyeking. I am here to mediate on the subject that you proposed for mediation. I am not here to accuse or exhonerate you of other things that might or might not have happened on that article; you seem very sensitive about ownership but we don't have to
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reluctant to move people's text around, but I think it was necessary again, because skyeking accidentally put a large volume of text in the "mediator notes" section, of which only a small part was related to anything I said. Skyeking is not the mediator. Since the text appeared to be discussion, I
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This is the second case that I have taken on as mediator. If you had specified in advance that you required a mediator with experience of more than X cases, I would not have taken on this case. Do you have any other rules that you want to apply to mediation? Please let us know sooner rather than
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Your question is ambiguous. My interpretation of your question is, “I would like to help you (and 207.61.241.100). Can you and I (as we await 207.61.241.100) calmly and logically discuss why you and 207.61.241.100 are at an impasse in the editing dispute discussion? – (as defined in the DRR
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I have seen the discussion you link to. I have also seen the article history and the article talkpage history, which contains a great deal more information relevant to the subject, much of which has been deleted by skyeking. Now, can we try to discuss the problem that you
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reluctantly moved it to the "discussion" section. If you feel it is important to put it under "mediator notes", or if you are not sure how to edit, please let me know and I will try to help. It would be good if everybody could try to present their points clearly.
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I'm sorry if you feel I accused you of anything. Looking at the page history, I think the page might have some ownership problems, but I certainly did not accuse you of anything. However, if people feel that page ownership is part of the problem, we can discuss
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I have removed the comment above which implied agreement by 207.61.241.100, because it was written by
Skyeking. I hope you don’t mind. Please try to avoid the appearance of putting words in other people’s mouths. If you agree to mediation, please sign
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I have removed the comment above which implied agreement by 207.61.241.100, because it was written by
Skyeking. I hope you don't mind. Please try to avoid the appearance of putting words in other people's mouths. If you agree to mediation, please sign
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The following conversation relates to the
Section: Mediator Notes. I (Skyeking) would normally copy portions of Bobrayner’s statements; provides continuity of discussion. But, in this situation readers will need to reference the Section: Mediator
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If you do not agree to moderation then we cannot make much progress here, and I may close the case. Are you sure? There does still seem to be a problem on the page. If you would like to work towards a solution, I would like to
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consider accepting you as a
Mediator – when an additional Senior Mediator (i.e. User:PhilKnight) is assigned (his name added to the information block; confirmation) to oversee you, and monitor your compliance with mediation
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Mediator (Bobrayner) from the above Section: Mediator Notes. In addition, Skyeking copied portions of Bobrayner’s statements; provides continuity of discussion.
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be applied to the mediation discussion. And my request is that this
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when you use the generic word “page” – i.e. Article Page / Article Talk Page / User Talk Page / User Page / Skyeking’s User Talk Page / and so on. Otherwise, you are causing ineffective communication.
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In addition, at this time, I believe you have a responsibility to consult with User:PhilKnight (or other Senior
Mediators) – the beginning of this mediation has already become crippled.
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refrain from birthing a human (population control) – unselfish action(s), motivated by the desire to benefit others – volunteering (choosing) to help lower human overpopulation.
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later. I hope there won't be many rules, as the more you try to control the discussion, the less likely it is that we'll reach a solution everybody is happy with.
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PhilKnight, thanks for closing the case. I had been waiting for 207.61.241.100 to contribute, but we can only wait so long. Thanks, everyone, for your time. ;-)
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methods. And should I err (violate mediation methods) my hope is that others will offer me a definitive correction statement for my evaluation (understanding).
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Do you believe that you have complied with the following links? If so, what percentage number (20% – 40% – etc.) would you assign to your level of compliance?
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numbers. It is illogical to define and/or require altruistic action(s) to be dependent upon a numbers game – such numbers are
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To those who have edited (or interest in) the VHEMT Article, "What are your thoughts about closing this
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discuss it here if you don't want. However, you now seem more willing to continue with mediation. Is that the case or not?
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Is there a cut-off date when people are no longer allowed to sign-in (i.e. become participants in this mediation)?
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Duly noted, I'll do the best I can with it, thanks for the clarification.
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