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It is a general consensus on Knowledge that articles should not be split and split again into ever more minutiae of detail treatment, with each split normally lowering the level of notability. What this means is that while a game may be notable, it is not normally advisable to have a separate article
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reliable. An analysis of the manner of treatment is crucial as well; Slashdot.org for example is reliable, but postings to that site by members of the public on a subject do not share the site's imprimatur. Be careful to check that the author, publisher, agent, vendor. etc. of a particular book are
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Coverage from an online review website can be considered non-trivial for the previous criterion if the coverage includes work by at least one professional reviewer or staff writer. Multiple reviews on a single website do not impart additional notability, so online reviews must come from multiple
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In some situations, where the game itself does not fit the established criteria for notability, or if a game is notable but the designer or publisher has an article in Knowledge, it may be better to feature material about the game in that article, rather than creating a separate article for that
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of the game or topic, with at least some of these works serving a general audience. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. Some of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to
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is not by itself an indication of notability as such websites are non-exclusionary, including large numbers of vanity press publications. There is no present agreement on how high a book must fall on Amazon's sales rank listing (in the "product details" section for a book's listing) in order to
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It is not sufficient to show that a game or game topic is notable within a particular fictional setting; sources must establish that the topic is notable from a real-world perspective. Hence, unless a source contains a non-trivial amount of coverage of a game or game topic from a real-world
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articles about games that are not yet published are generally discouraged unless multiple independent sources provide strong evidence that the game is widely anticipated and unless the title of the game and its approximate date of publication have been made public.
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magazine cannot be used to establish notability of products released by TSR or Wizards of the Coast. Third-party sourcebooks on a topic are in general not independent references for the topic they cover, since their authors have a financial interest in that
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Although the rules of most role-playing games are published in books, these criteria do not apply to articles dedicated to those books if a separate article exists to describe the game. Articles solely about books should be evaluated using the
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The immediately preceding criterion excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the game or game
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or the first to use a setting which was later widely used; the first to be published in a certain way, for example online or print-on-demand; or which is otherwise described as a significant step by multiple reliable sources.
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mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular game or game topic. Releases by the publisher of a game do not establish notability; for example, reviews in
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game. Conversely, if a rulebook is notable but the game has an article in Knowledge, it may be better to feature material about the book in the game's article, rather than creating a separate article for the book.
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of the subject itself (or of its author, publisher, vendor or agent) have actually considered the book notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works that focus upon it.
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on a character or rulebook from the game, and it is often the case that despite the game being manifestly notable, a derivative article from it is not. Exceptions do, of course, exist—see
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for the verifiability and neutrality problems that affect material where the subject of the article itself is the source of the material). The barometer of notability is whether people
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The "subject" of a work means non-trivial treatment and excludes mere mention of the game, its author or of its publication, price listings and other nonsubstantive detail treatment.
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should or should not have an article on Knowledge. While satisfying these notability guidelines generally indicates a book warrants an article, failing to satisfy them is
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The game's designer or setting is so historically significant that any officially associated works may be considered notable; or it is the focus of an active WikiProject
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Although the term "role-playing game" is broadly used to cover many pursuits, these guidelines refer only to the games in which the participants assume the roles of
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perspective, it does not count towards this criterion. In particular, in-universe and game-mechanical descriptions of a topic do not meet this criterion.
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Either the page is no longer relevant or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion, seek broader input via a forum such as the
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Self-promotion and product placement are not the routes to having an encyclopedia article. The published works must be
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An "independent source" is a source which describes a topic from a disinterested perspective. Independent does
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This page gives some rough guidelines intended to be used by Knowledge editors to decide whether a
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The game or topic represents a significant milestone in the development of role-playing games.
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are notable precisely because they were among the first to be published independently.
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The game or topic has been a subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose
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do not prevent future setting-specific games from counting under this criterion.
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is dedicated to the game and should be evaluated using these criteria, whereas
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which was later widely adopted; the first game within a given major genre of
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Andrew Rilstone, "Role-Playing Games: An Overview" 1994, Inter*Action #1 at
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However, not all self-published games are non-notable, and some early
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A role-playing game or game topic is generally notable if it
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are dedicated to books and should be evaluated according to
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Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of information
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These guidelines may be considered a specialized version of
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Knowledge articles must not be vehicles for advertisement
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This includes licensed games of significant franchises.
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This page is currently inactive and is retained for
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