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reliable. An analysis of the manner of treatment is crucial as well; Slashdot.org for example is reliable, but postings to that site by members of the public on a subject do not share the site's imprimatur. Be careful to check that the author, publisher, agent, vendor. etc. of a particular book are
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of the game or topic, with at least some of these works serving a general audience. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. Some of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to
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is not by itself an indication of notability as such websites are non-exclusionary, including large numbers of vanity press publications. There is no present agreement on how high a book must fall on Amazon's sales rank listing (in the "product details" section for a book's listing) in order to
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It is not sufficient to show that a game or game topic is notable within a particular fictional setting; sources must establish that the topic is notable from a real-world perspective. Hence, unless a source contains a non-trivial amount of coverage of a game or game topic from a real-world
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articles about games that are not yet published are generally discouraged unless multiple independent sources provide strong evidence that the game is widely anticipated and unless the title of the game and its approximate date of publication have been made public.
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magazine cannot be used to establish notability of products released by TSR or
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Although the rules of most role-playing games are published in books, these criteria do not apply to articles dedicated to those books if a separate article exists to describe the game. Articles solely about books should be evaluated using the
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for the verifiability and neutrality problems that affect material where the subject of the article itself is the source of the material). The barometer of notability is whether people
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