Knowledge

Talk:Alexithymia

Source 📝

938:, who appears not to have been active on Wiki since 2022) to reflect her own perception or experience of alexithymia, which has to count for something. My own view – and I know not all editors agree – is that most articles are improved by having some sort of lead image, even if it is "eye candy", and only peripherally relevant to the topic. This article is about a psychological state, which is never going to be easy to illustrate: I think this image is far from perfect, but still quite a lot better than nothing. 158: 849:
she's in love with him - at which point he proposes to her. So she's certainly emotionally confused, but the quote about "She could really say nothing" has far more to do with her being overwhelmed by her emotions, rather than any sort of "emotional blindness". I appreciate that it's not easy to illustrate an abstract psychological state, but I think this image is downright misleading. Personally, I don't see what was wrong with the image that used to be in the infobox (right; removed by
608: 590: 827: 522: 504: 142: 668: 420: 399: 226: 755:
that I claim, though I do not have them with me now, other than my diagnostic use of it in a brief article about my clinical work, that I can provide. Also, I suggest that you contact some established psychiatrist for further information. I’m a retired MD neurologist, ph.d. neuroscientist, board certified in psychiatry and neurology, also with master’s degree in psychology.
257: 309: 288: 319: 430: 977:
to guide us): I feel the message of the image is just one of emotional confusion rather than anything more specific. However, I don't feel strongly on the matter, so I suggest we leave things for a few days for further input, and then if there's nothing and you want to remove the image, I'll have no
754:
Condition was common but is not mentioned in the article on Knowledge. During 10 year period 1991-2001 I evaluated Holocaust survivors for German government for Wiedergutmachung as restitution for war crimes, based on the concept of Vergangengheitsbewältigung. There are references to the connection
933:
I agree the image isn't immediately "readable" (in that it's not clear what the figure is holding); and, insofar as it is readable (it pretty obviously suggests some sort of confusion or mismatch between intellectual and emotional intelligence), it doesn't really enlighten the reader a great deal
848:
of 5 June, which seems to me quite wrong. In the novel, Emma is a self-confident young woman who tries to act as a matchmaker within her social circle, but has no desire to marry herself, and is in what she thinks of as a platonic friendship with Mr Knightley. At the end of the book, she realises
908:
Must have missed the ping on this one. I described this drawing of a person in silhouette holding some worms (?) as "puzzling" when I removed it last year, and would stand by that. It seems about as useful as something like
135: 150: 952:
I'm with you on the eye candy angle, a lot of my gnoming at Knowledge is adding even very mildly representative images to articles. My concern on this one is that the diagram may be slightly
337: 956:
than nothing by strongly evoking the conscious "do I use my head or follow my heart?" decision metaphor, which is (at least as I'm reading it) the opposite of alexithymia.
217: 171: 341: 916:
Maybe less useful, for looking more like a person wondering whether to go with their head or their heart on the issue of whatever they're holding in their hand.
1059: 1044: 566: 486: 476: 735:
Is there any evidence for the alternative etymology listed on this page? The word αλέξω being part of the etymology doesn't seem to make much sense here.
79: 1029: 381: 371: 1074: 1049: 184: 1034: 572: 992:
I am here for a few days. The person in the image is holding a tangle toy, which is a type of fidget tool that some neurodivergent people use.
627: 452: 85: 1069: 1064: 1039: 919:
I'd agree with your view on the Emma illustration. Perhaps this article just can't be usefully illustrated from what Commons can offer.
804: 346: 44: 1024: 542: 1054: 623: 618: 595: 443: 404: 910: 797:"Traumatic experiences, alexithymia, and posttraumatic symptomatology: a cross-sectional population-based study in Germany" . 99: 30: 740: 332: 293: 104: 20: 74: 529: 509: 268: 763:
If you can supply some bibliographical references, other editors can assess whether they meet Knowledge standards for
717: 65: 793:"Alexithymia, masked depression and loss in a Holocaust survivor" . Also possibly relevant is the much more recent: 684: 225: 213: 208: 736: 696: 236: 997: 126: 808: 191: 109: 274: 934:
specifically on alexithymia. But in its favour is that fact that it was created by an autistic artist (
800: 853:
20 Dec 2022), that was expressly created to illustrate alexithymia. Any further comments before I'm
756: 256: 993: 974: 935: 913:(a head outline with question marks), for the general idea of a human being puzzled in their brain. 198: 55: 541:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
451:
on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
983: 943: 897: 882: 862: 772: 702: 241: 70: 964: 924: 826: 607: 589: 435: 51: 794: 698: 667: 538: 238: 177: 534: 324: 973:
I'm not sure a better caption would really improve things (especially in the absence of
873: 854: 521: 503: 1018: 979: 939: 893: 878: 858: 841: 768: 830:
A drawing by an artist with alexithymia depicting confusion about one's own emotions
960: 920: 850: 836: 764: 419: 398: 165: 24: 448: 425: 314: 790: 786: 125: 700: 240: 1001: 987: 968: 947: 928: 901: 887: 866: 812: 776: 744: 533:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of all aspects of 308: 287: 825: 344:. Please visit the project page for details or ask questions at 789:"Alexithymia in Holocaust survivors with and without PTSD" and 141: 834:
I'm proposing to remove the infobox image (from Jane Austen's
703: 661: 250: 242: 15: 336:, which recommends that medicine-related articles follow the 795:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3402/ejpt.v5.23870
626:, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the 149: 845: 892:
No further comments, so I've switched the two images.
447:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of 571:This article has not yet received a rating on the 767:, and perhaps incorporate them into the article. 33:for general discussion of the article's subject. 340:and that biomedical information in any article 959:Maybe a more explanatory caption would help. 711:This page has archives. Sections older than 338:Manual of Style for medicine-related articles 197: 157: 8: 798: 584: 498: 393: 282: 791:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2597865/ 787:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9018679/ 586: 500: 395: 284: 254: 721:when more than 3 sections are present. 183: 7: 527:This article is within the scope of 441:This article is within the scope of 330:This article is within the scope of 347:Knowledge talk:WikiProject Medicine 273:It is of interest to the following 23:for discussing improvements to the 1060:Unknown-importance Autism articles 1045:Low-importance psychology articles 750:Alexithymia in Holocaust survivors 622:. For more information, visit the 14: 785:A quick google search turns up: 715:may be automatically archived by 1030:Low-importance medicine articles 666: 636:Knowledge:WikiProject Disability 606: 588: 520: 502: 461:Knowledge:WikiProject Psychology 428: 418: 397: 342:use high-quality medical sources 317: 307: 286: 255: 224: 45:Click here to start a new topic. 1075:WikiProject Disability articles 1050:WikiProject Psychology articles 911:File:Noun questions 1325510.svg 639:Template:WikiProject Disability 481:This article has been rated as 464:Template:WikiProject Psychology 376:This article has been rated as 1035:All WikiProject Medicine pages 929:18:20, 21 September 2023 (UTC) 356:Knowledge:WikiProject Medicine 1: 745:00:41, 1 September 2022 (UTC) 545:and see a list of open tasks. 455:and see a list of open tasks. 359:Template:WikiProject Medicine 42:Put new text under old text. 551:Knowledge:WikiProject Autism 1070:C-Class Disability articles 1065:WikiProject Autism articles 1040:C-Class psychology articles 777:20:27, 1 October 2022 (UTC) 554:Template:WikiProject Autism 50:New to Knowledge? Welcome! 1091: 988:13:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC) 969:15:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC) 948:14:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC) 573:project's importance scale 487:project's importance scale 382:project's importance scale 1025:C-Class medicine articles 1002:02:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC) 902:15:20, 25 June 2023 (UTC) 888:15:39, 20 June 2023 (UTC) 867:11:58, 19 June 2023 (UTC) 601: 570: 515: 480: 413: 375: 302: 281: 80:Be welcoming to newcomers 813:01:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC) 1055:C-Class Autism articles 616:is within the scope of 831: 718:Lowercase sigmabot III 619:WikiProject Disability 444:WikiProject Psychology 263:This article is rated 75:avoid personal attacks 829: 218:Auto-archiving period 123:Find medical sources: 100:Neutral point of view 737:Skoulikomirmigotripa 333:WikiProject Medicine 105:No original research 936:User:MissLunaRose12 642:Disability articles 467:psychology articles 832: 530:WikiProject Autism 269:content assessment 129: 86:dispute resolution 47: 815: 803:comment added by 725: 724: 690: 689: 658: 657: 654: 653: 650: 649: 583: 582: 579: 578: 497: 496: 493: 492: 436:Psychology portal 392: 391: 388: 387: 362:medicine articles 249: 248: 128:Source guidelines 127: 66:Assume good faith 43: 1082: 886: 765:reliable sources 720: 704: 681: 680: 670: 662: 644: 643: 640: 637: 634: 610: 603: 602: 592: 585: 559: 558: 555: 552: 549: 539:autistic culture 524: 517: 516: 506: 499: 469: 468: 465: 462: 459: 438: 433: 432: 431: 422: 415: 414: 409: 401: 394: 364: 363: 360: 357: 354: 327: 322: 321: 320: 311: 304: 303: 298: 290: 283: 266: 260: 259: 251: 243: 229: 228: 219: 202: 201: 187: 161: 153: 145: 131: 95:Article policies 16: 1090: 1089: 1085: 1084: 1083: 1081: 1080: 1079: 1015: 1014: 877: 824: 759:1 October 2022 752: 733: 716: 705: 699: 675: 641: 638: 635: 632: 631: 557:Autism articles 556: 553: 550: 547: 546: 466: 463: 460: 457: 456: 434: 429: 427: 407: 361: 358: 355: 352: 351: 325:Medicine portal 323: 318: 316: 296: 267:on Knowledge's 264: 245: 244: 239: 216: 121: 116: 115: 114: 91: 61: 12: 11: 5: 1088: 1086: 1078: 1077: 1072: 1067: 1062: 1057: 1052: 1047: 1042: 1037: 1032: 1027: 1017: 1016: 1013: 1012: 1011: 1010: 1009: 1008: 1007: 1006: 1005: 1004: 994:MissLunaRose12 975:MissLunaRose12 957: 917: 914: 906: 905: 904: 823: 820: 819: 818: 817: 816: 780: 779: 751: 748: 732: 729: 727: 723: 722: 710: 707: 706: 701: 697: 695: 692: 691: 688: 687: 677: 676: 671: 665: 656: 655: 652: 651: 648: 647: 645: 611: 599: 598: 593: 581: 580: 577: 576: 569: 563: 562: 560: 543:the discussion 525: 513: 512: 507: 495: 494: 491: 490: 483:Low-importance 479: 473: 472: 470: 453:the discussion 440: 439: 423: 411: 410: 408:Low‑importance 402: 390: 389: 386: 385: 378:Low-importance 374: 368: 367: 365: 329: 328: 312: 300: 299: 297:Low‑importance 291: 279: 278: 272: 261: 247: 246: 237: 235: 234: 231: 230: 204: 203: 118: 117: 113: 112: 107: 102: 93: 92: 90: 89: 82: 77: 68: 62: 60: 59: 48: 39: 38: 35: 34: 28: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 1087: 1076: 1073: 1071: 1068: 1066: 1063: 1061: 1058: 1056: 1053: 1051: 1048: 1046: 1043: 1041: 1038: 1036: 1033: 1031: 1028: 1026: 1023: 1022: 1020: 1003: 999: 995: 991: 990: 989: 985: 981: 976: 972: 971: 970: 966: 962: 958: 955: 951: 950: 949: 945: 941: 937: 932: 931: 930: 926: 922: 918: 915: 912: 907: 903: 899: 895: 891: 890: 889: 884: 880: 875: 871: 870: 869: 868: 864: 860: 856: 852: 847: 843: 839: 838: 828: 822:Infobox image 821: 814: 810: 806: 805:173.17.176.73 802: 796: 792: 788: 784: 783: 782: 781: 778: 774: 770: 766: 762: 761: 760: 758: 749: 747: 746: 742: 738: 730: 728: 719: 714: 709: 708: 694: 693: 686: 683: 682: 679: 678: 674: 669: 664: 663: 660: 646: 629: 625: 621: 620: 615: 612: 609: 605: 604: 600: 597: 594: 591: 587: 574: 568: 565: 564: 561: 544: 540: 536: 532: 531: 526: 523: 519: 518: 514: 511: 508: 505: 501: 488: 484: 478: 475: 474: 471: 454: 450: 446: 445: 437: 426: 424: 421: 417: 416: 412: 406: 403: 400: 396: 383: 379: 373: 370: 369: 366: 349: 348: 343: 339: 335: 334: 326: 315: 313: 310: 306: 305: 301: 295: 292: 289: 285: 280: 276: 270: 262: 258: 253: 252: 233: 232: 227: 223: 215: 212: 210: 206: 205: 200: 196: 193: 190: 186: 182: 179: 176: 173: 172:ScienceDirect 170: 167: 164: 160: 156: 152: 148: 144: 140: 137: 134: 130: 124: 120: 119: 111: 110:Verifiability 108: 106: 103: 101: 98: 97: 96: 87: 83: 81: 78: 76: 72: 69: 67: 64: 63: 57: 53: 52:Learn to edit 49: 46: 41: 40: 37: 36: 32: 26: 22: 18: 17: 953: 840:), added by 835: 833: 799:— Preceding 753: 734: 726: 712: 672: 659: 624:project page 617: 613: 528: 482: 442: 377: 345: 331: 275:WikiProjects 221: 207: 194: 188: 180: 174: 168: 162: 154: 146: 138: 132: 122: 94: 19:This is the 978:objection. 614:Alexithymia 31:not a forum 25:Alexithymia 1019:Categories 633:Disability 628:discussion 596:Disability 458:Psychology 449:Psychology 405:Psychology 846:this edit 757:Bukkehave 731:Etymology 685:Archive 1 88:if needed 71:Be polite 21:talk page 980:GrindtXX 940:GrindtXX 894:GrindtXX 879:waddie96 859:GrindtXX 842:Waddie96 801:unsigned 769:GrindtXX 673:Archives 353:Medicine 294:Medicine 209:Archives 178:Springer 143:Cochrane 56:get help 29:This is 27:article. 961:Belbury 921:Belbury 874:WP:BOLD 851:Belbury 713:30 days 485:on the 380:on the 265:C-class 222:30 days 548:Autism 535:autism 510:Autism 271:scale. 166:OpenMD 136:PubMed 954:worse 192:Wiley 84:Seek 998:talk 984:talk 965:talk 944:talk 925:talk 898:talk 883:talk 876::-) 863:talk 855:bold 837:Emma 809:talk 773:talk 741:talk 537:and 185:Trip 159:Gale 151:DOAJ 73:and 881:★ ( 872:Be 844:in 567:??? 477:Low 372:Low 199:TWL 1021:: 1000:) 986:) 967:) 946:) 927:) 900:) 865:) 857:? 811:) 775:) 743:) 220:: 54:; 996:( 982:( 963:( 942:( 923:( 896:( 885:) 861:( 807:( 771:( 739:( 630:. 575:. 489:. 384:. 350:. 277:: 214:1 211:: 195:· 189:· 181:· 175:· 169:· 163:· 155:· 147:· 139:· 133:· 58:.

Index

talk page
Alexithymia
not a forum
Click here to start a new topic.
Learn to edit
get help
Assume good faith
Be polite
avoid personal attacks
Be welcoming to newcomers
dispute resolution
Neutral point of view
No original research
Verifiability
Source guidelines
PubMed
Cochrane
DOAJ
Gale
OpenMD
ScienceDirect
Springer
Trip
Wiley
TWL
Archives
1


content assessment

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.