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not a technical term, people may also say "infection I got in the hospital", "complication from surgery", "disease I got at the doctor's office" or any number of other things which are less precise, but still not a technical term. My reason for proposing the move was to avoid jargon, and not necessarily to identify the single term most used in publication. I feel that very few
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2160:References
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