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I wasn't aware that science is considered a POV. Yes, both have their own articles, but it's conceivable that there are some who would use Knowledge as a primary source when looking for treatment, misguided or not. Listing treatments that simply have no reliable evidence of efficacy encourages their
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I don't see the word "pseudoscientific" anywhere in this text (nor is this about back pain, for that matter). We are not here to label things as such from our own POV. Regardless, I don't see how doing so would help the article. Both osteopathy and acupuncture have their own articles which can (and
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I removed the Surgery section, which discussed a cervical artificial disc replacement surgery as a treatment for upper back pain, because cervical artificial discs are only a treatment option for cervical spine disorders, not for use in the upper back. All other edits made to the text were to add
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I separated out some of the pseudoscientific treatments from the main list of common solutions. Osteopathy and acupuncture are clearly contradicted by Western medical practices and have clear (and recent) evidence against them. I didn't move Chiropractic out of the section, since there's limited
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which expressly states that the use of these methods to treat "upper back pain" specifically is considered pseudoscientific by the scientific community at large. Without that reference, stating such cannot be included in this article. --
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Instead of trying to label treatments as scientific or not, why not try labeling them based upon effectiveness instead? It accomplishes the same thing and places the burden of proof upon those that are promoting the pseudoscience.
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clarifications, many internal links to help readers navigate, and add the reference upon which this article was clearly based. Hope this has helped improve accuracy and completeness of the article.
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to function and protect them." to: "The upper spine is very strong and stable to support the weight of the upper body, as well as to anchor the rib cage which provides a cavity to allow the
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I changed: "The upper spine is designed to be very strong and stable to support the weight of the upper body, as well as to anchor the rib cage which provides a cavity to allow the
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How do we determine effectiveness? I am all for this but I know that if we rely on scientific studies, we will most likely find some that say acupuncture (for instance)
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I restored multiple internal links and easily verifiable information, while removing unsourced medical advice. I don't see how this is contentious. --
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Acupuncture specifically has recent research showing no effect in true double-blind studies using a placebo needle.
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evidence that its procedures might reduce symptoms, although the theory behind it is clearly pseudoscientific.
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Undid prior edit. Formatting of infobox had been ruined by irrelevant comments about football.
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