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I've reconstructed so much of this article (check the history section). I really need assistance, however, from a copy-editor, to scan over the article to check for language style and the uniformity therein. The copy-editor must have a bigger vocabulary and better sense of grammar than I. If you know
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This is actually a provision in Article II of the NJ State Constitution, but I have to object as to its placement in the article. There are no other specific provisions for any of the other articles, and the provision itself seems to be in the article just because it sounds slightly weird relative to
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The article is missing Articles V through XI, which is half of the constitution. I have added the sections of Article IV and started Article V (as well as other sections), but the page is still missing a huge amount of information and should be updated as soon as possible with information about the
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You only have one small image. You shouldn't have any problem coming up with some more. You can surely get a map from the Redistricting Commission, showing the districts, put it next to Article II. You can put publicity stills of current state officers, and put them next to the parts of the
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Is the word "instantiate" used correctly? Webster translates this as "to represent (an abstraction) by a concrete instance, e.g., heroes instantiate ideals." The article uses the term in a manner similar to "establishes," "authorizes," or "allows." I'd suggest using a more appropriate
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so the article will be retained on the GA list. There were some concerns raised, both above and here, so please do not take this result of this discussion as an endorsement of this article. Please continue to improve it as requested. An archive of the discussion can be found at
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You need to CITE YOUR SOURCES. For instance, you can't say "The first constitution was adopted in 1776 and, amongst other things granted unmarried women and blacks who met property requirements the right to vote" unless you point out how you know that. You need to link to a
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I know that a lot of information has been added since the first nomination but it still doesn't meet the GA standards and should be improved upon the comments given. Good luck and if any question arises, please ask me or request insight into my review.
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The article's wording is clumsy. Example: "Unusually, various provisions usually kept in other sections or unified in one section in most state constitutions are spread throughout the New Jersey Constitution."
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who is making that observation, or better yet, link to the 1776 constitution itself. I suspect the Avalon Project has a copy online; you can google it easily, and they're considered a Reliable Source.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the citation for "It also formally limited state debt, a predecessor of many contemporary "debt ceiling" clauses" doesn't seem to say ANYTHING on the subject of debts.
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The outline of the constitution needs to be at the top. Either figure out a way to set up your headers so the Contents box does the trick, or use a {{Notoc}} and create the outline you want.
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Every requested modifications have been made and such have given a more encyclopedic look to the article. Thanks for the time that was put into re-working the article, It is really GA now.
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Does the reference section mean that nothing else states the constitution articles? Does it mean that the articles weren't mentioned in 1947 when they were passed and weren't criticised?
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You need to include the constitution itself on the page, instead of just talking about it. Having a section of constitution is regular type, followed by discussion in italics would work.
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I'm glad you're interested in improving Knowledge (XXG), and I hope these suggestions help. Feel free to renominate the article as soon as you've taken care of these issues!
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You need to get rid of the red wikilinks, but turning them black isn't the solution, because you don't have an excess of wikilinks. Instead, you need to create stub articles.
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Many words aren't wikilinks which renders the reader with having to look for words in the dictionary, maybe wikilinking them to wiktionary if they can't be found in WP.
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I added that it because it was A: A whole section (Or articel, whichever), B: sounded interesting, and C: My experience with working on constitutions comes from the
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No history section but the lead section is somewhat of a summary in itself attempting to write the history, this could be expanded and made into an article.
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I've started editing the article to improve its prose, but it might take me a while to do the whole thing. Let me know if you have any suggestions.
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I agree it is in context, but it still seems odd that only this specific provision is mentioned, but that it is not one of the more important ones.
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3) The article is not well written. Its language is so formalistic, which sometimes results in confusion. See 'Taxation and Finance' subsection;
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The article also deals with the details of how and when the Redistricting Commission will meet, the amount of time to go to various things, etc.
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4) Some parts of the article look like a number of sentences unconnected to each other. See the third paragraph in 'Schedule' subsection.
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the other provisions. Should this be removed, or should more specific (and more relevant!) provisions be piled into the article?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The state constitution isn't the highest law of the state. Even the most trivial of federal regulations trumps state law.
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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Someone please copyedit the last paragraph of Article XI section and the Criticisms section.
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Seperate article made, lead re-worked to be similar to other state constitution leads.
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I say expand. No reason to ignore this provision when it is discussed in context. --
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You don't have to put your name in parenthesis when you're going to sign yourself.
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I respect this result, but continue to think that the article should be delisted.
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I have made several edits to the article, and have the following comments:
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Oh, I can't remember why I did that. Missing now are sections for Article
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2) Some references are strange. What does ref 41 "See notes (2)" mean ?
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for it doesn't give the reasons for their failings quite clearly enough.
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This list is not complete. So I think the article should be delisted.
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content; Good Articles are supposed to be better than just acceptable.
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Note to all reviewers: the passage below is from the first nomination.
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Evidently that's likely to be changed to less outdated language, see
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This, specifically, fixed. Article has been checked for awkwardness.
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The notes section should be merged with the references section.
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http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/lawsconstitution/constitution.asp
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You need to flesh out the Criticisms and Differences sections.
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I'm "easy" when it comes to citations. If you use <ref: -->
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section is irrelevant or should be incorporated in the text.
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When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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A negative enumeration of legislative powers is included.
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What led to the rewriting/modifying of the constitution?
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