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1342:" Which is entirely in following with the source as it doesn't say he was born there. Duncan was well aware of this change in the wording as the talkpage shows, yet continued to revert me claiming the content dispute was vandalism. Duncan as a 100% non-Cornish person interested in Cornwall, similar in a sense to Payton's situation seems to be defensive over the issue and that seems to be the deal here. Not any "vandalism" or even misrepresenation of sources. - 1459: 669: 539: 731: 1251:. CarnegiePublishing.com is not a "false source", it is a legitimate source from the publishing company the subject of the article is releasing a book through. Check the edit history and then check the source, BLP has not being violated and neither is anything you have mentioned present in WP:3RR, nowhere is there 1073:. Duncan removed sourced information because he did not like the CONTENT. I reverted his blanking (which I viewed as reverting vandalism of legitimate sourced info). That Duncan called a content dispute "vandalism" does not mean he was using the term legitimately nor is he covered by WP:3RR, read the 913:
that he was not reverting vandalism he was reverting sourced information that he did not like. I reverted what I percieved as Duncan's vandalism (blanking information) as the edit summaries show. Inferno was just a busy body reverting because me and Duncan were in a dispute, he is not involved in the
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in my edit to the article during this takes-two-to-tango content dispute. You seem to have being grossly incompetant when dealing with this case, to the point of not even bothering to check it over before blocking me and surely you must realise now that you've made a mistake, but you're unwilling to
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With all due respect, I'm looking for a response from the blocking admin who decided to randomly cherry pick who not to block and who to block based on Duncan's blatant abuse of the word "vandal". He was the one "vandalising" the article by removed sourced information on the Sussexman. Duncan has no
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Because the information was questionable and had not reached consensus. Just take a deep breath, relax and have a nice day. When your block is up you can continue discussing the content on the talk page, and it probably would be a good idea to get uninvolved parties to contribute to the discussion.
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Actually, per the talk page and the source, you were adding unsourced information on a living person. In addition, you were adding information claiming that it was in the source. Either you were vandalizing (adding false sources) or violating BLP, both of which are revertable per
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Administrators should block persistent vandals and protect pages subject to vandalism from many users, rather than repeatedly reverting. However, non-administrators may find reversion unavoidable before administrators can
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for godsake. This states only obvious vandalism is covered by that, it explicitely says content disputes are not; myself and Duncan were even debating on the talk so this can in no way be confused as "vandalism".
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The reference you gave for Payton being born in Brighton did not actually say that. The insertion of false references or false citations is vandalism, and if repeated may result in a block.
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It doesn't matter that you think that it is sourced information, there must be a conclusion on the talk page before the edit is made again, so that the edit war may be resolved.
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sources for his argument, I do. If he hasn't come up with a source by tomorrow then its clearly good for reverting to the sourced version with no misrepresenation. -
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By 'false source,' I think he means that that source doesn't say that this person was born in Brighton. It only says that he spent much of his childhood there. -
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How about explaining some of your tagging on the talk pages? You are clearly already familiar with how Knowledge works, so I am sure that you are aware of them.
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such as page blanking and adding bad language. Legitimate content changes, adding or removing tags, edits against consensus, and similar actions are not exempt.
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You still have not bothered to read the talkpage discussion and the edit summaries in the article, to see what is going on here? Me and Duncan were having a
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After Duncan made me aware of that on the talkpage I changed the wording to this very early on, i think it was after the first revert; "He was born in 1954,
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Inferno decided to get involved and revert on the basis of a consensus not being reached, nothing to do with "vandalism". Again this is not covered by
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to understand why you were blocked, and why what I was doing does not constitute 3RR. When your block is up, try to gain consesnsus on the talk page
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for what to do when an editing disagreement happens. Edit-warring is always against the rules, even when you believe that you have good reasons. —
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Indeed. You were blocked for edit warring. All I did was restore the pre-edit warring content of the page. When your block expires, remember:
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content dispute. Content disputes are not vandalism, either I should be unblocked or these two, especially Duncan should be blocked also. -
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for edit warring. Both editors believed they were reverting vandalism. There was no "cherry picking" involved. You were blocked for a
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Please start using article talk pages before making further major changes. Your editing pattern is currently suggestive of a
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Also why on earth have you Smashville reverted my sourced edits in the article?? Aren't admins supposed to be impartial. -
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Inferno and Duncan were reverting what they perceived as vandalism. Vandalism reversion is exempt from 3RR. --
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vandalism – edits which any well-intentioned user would immediately agree constitute vandalism,
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Please read the talkpage on the article and compare the edits in the article itself. Duncan was
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This is going nowhere productive. I'm protecting the talkpage for the duration of the block. --
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I think you are actually taking the piss now. I was the one adding the source to the article.
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to gain consensus for the edit, and make the edit again only if consensus is reached. Thanks!
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